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SR-17018 - I think we would be stupid to ignore this. MIRACLE chemical for tolerance/detox? : Opiates | Torhoo darknet markets

I saw this chemical mentioned in another thread on here for the first time in the last couple days.

I just did some searching on it again more thoroughly than when I first had it cross my radar and HOLY SHIT.

There are a multitude of people in /r/Opioid_RCs that are claiming they've been able to come off of high doses of zenes/fentalogues/methadone etc by using this chemical. It's an opioid RC that from what I understand selectively targets certain receptors that result in it being extremely less risky when it comes to respiratory depression in studies. From what people who are addicted to opiates are saying in their experiences with it - they're able to jump off HIGH doses of strong opiates/ioids and experiencing virtually zero to negligent withdrawal symptoms and their cravings being controlled well. Another interesting thing - some of these people who normally would have absolutely fried receptors from the zenes/fent chemicals have been able to experience warmth and euphoria in as little as a month of being on the SR and subbing for things like kratom/o-dsmt. That would lead one to believe that their tolerance isn't only dropping from being off their initial chemical that was driving their habit prior to getting on the SR but it must be actually working some mechanism to be actively dropping the tolerance alongside the abstinence of the first chem. When you stop the SR-17018 it doesn't have any withdrawals whatsoever is what people are reporting. Your cravings returning is the worst you'll deal with.

I'd just recommend spending 30 minutes to an hour skimming through the threads in the opioid_rcs subreddit that have "SR-17018" in the title.

I've ordered 3 grams to experiment with and have high hopes. Seems like there are several vendors that carry it but I ordered through a vendor that I recognize who I'm new to but I have gathered that their reputation is good around here. https://torhoo.cc/go.php?u=TDNVdlkyaGxiV2xqWVd4emFXNWphR0ZwYm5NPQ==# on darkmatter is the guy I just placed the order through. I hope this stuff is real. Just wanted to bring it to ya'lls attention. Even if you're not looking to detox like I've seen quite a few people intending to do in the coming days, you may be interested in using this temporarily to switch over to so you can regulate your tolerance or just to stock up incase it becomes scheduled and a literal miracle (yet to be seen but again, I'm very hopeful) is no longer readily available like it is now.

I'll either update here or start a new thread with my adventure into experimenting with this.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
2 points
8 months ago
Here is another good quote from ol' reddit from user 40mg2Freedom:

"SR-17018 is a compound that it currently being researched by several groups at universities (2019-present) and shows promise at alleviating withdrawal symptoms while also reducing the expression of (amount of) MOR receptors over time, thus reducing tolerance.

**NOTE: I'm generalizing at a very high level the information that I've read (all the recent publications and also detailed anecdotal reports from friends' experiences and my own personal experience)

SR-17018 does indeed alleviate physical withdrawal symptoms. From the friend groups and forums I'm active in, I have gathered anecdotal information and I will report those data below:

For people using mild to moderate opiates, like kratom, odsmt, 2map, etc. SR-17018 was substituted instead of those particular compounds, and SR was used as a maintenance medication. There were no WD effects experienced, and after a week or 2 of using only SR-17018, exclusively as a maintenance medication, users reported ZERO physical WD symptoms and could then take it or leave it .... they'd essentially completed a rapid taper and experienced ZERO physical WD symptoms and could possibly walk away at that point with no physical dependence (psychological dependence is a different story)

For my friends that had gone deeper down the rabbit hole; those who were struggling with zenes, which had obliterated their opiate tolerance, and even Cychlorphine, which appears to be even worse than zenes, SR-17018 was still able to alleviate WD symptoms and, if used properly as a maintenance "stepping stone" alleviate all physical WD symptoms.

This has been my experience and the experience of my good friends, some of whom I was certain I'd lose imminently due to the potency of zenes.

SR-17018 may not be a silver bullet for everyone. It may not have the analgesia that people suffering from chronic pain are looking for. However, if you are dependent on traditional opiates or "other," be they kratom, odsmt, tapentadol, 2map, hydro, oxy, morphine, H, fent, or zenes...... if you are looking to get your life back and have been looking for an off-ramp from the nightmare that is opiate dependence, SR-17018 has worked for myself to get off kratom and for my close friends to get off zenes and even Cychlorphine.

There is hope out there, and SR-17018 is a tool that can help you get off the super potent opiates and get your life back"
/u/Heinous
1 points
8 months ago
First time hearing of this chem. Ill definately look into it. Just came back to dread a couple days ago. How much do you dose?
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
It's supposedly 1:1 with morphine as far as dosage. But I'm seeing people on reddit generally start with 25-100mg with 100mg seeming to be what people with extremely heavy habits of synthetics would start with. I'll start with 25mg as I'm using 1G or less per day of #4 regularly and dose up from there depending on results.

I strongly recommend surfing that subreddit for info on it. It's very exciting.
/u/Heinous
1 points
8 months ago
Thanks for the info
/u/NorthOfTheNeXus
1 points
8 months ago
ikr.. a mate has been dreaming about getting some for months now
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
What's stopping you?
/u/NorthOfTheNeXus
1 points
8 months ago
its not me, but we live in aus and getting drug here can b hard..
also u need to deal with the chinese direct to get it...but he is working on that
i think u/realchemsupplier might have access to it
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
Ah I see. I know there are some western vendors carrying it. But as far as getting it into AUS I have no idea about its legality or other logistics surrounding aussies getting their hands on it. Good luck though. Hopefully it becomes possible.
/u/MussoliniDrugDealy
1 points
8 months ago
Best of luck my friend, hope this works for you.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
2 points
8 months ago
You should read a bit on it - I can't believe what people are saying.
/u/MussoliniDrugDealy
1 points
8 months ago
Will do.
/u/whomenoway
1 points
8 months ago
Wonder If this works for suboxone withdrawals that last for .months? Excited for reviews.
~MushLove~
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
2 points
8 months ago
Here is a direct quote from a reddit user's thread regarding suboxone and using SR to get off of it.

"1 dose completely stops opiate withdrawal in its tracks for 24 hours, without having any other noticeable effects besides vivid dreams and a reduction of opiate tolerance. i've been struggling to get off suboxone for the past year, then i got some of this stuff and took 100mg sublingually and nasally for 14 days. I experienced no withdrawals beyond that point. I have also read stories written by people that have used it to get off nitazenes and had the same experience.

there isn't much info out there about what dosage to use. so just to clarify, it seems to have a 1:1 potency with morphine. so use whatever the mme of whatever you're currently on is. or start with 100mg and raise dose in increments of 50mg until withdrawals are no longer present.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
Yes. According to people in the subreddit that I referenced in my post they have used it successfully for pretty much every type of opiate/ioid withdrawal imaginable. I'm gonna double check if it drastically shortens the length of w/d for subs but I think it would due to it having that peculiar effect of actively lowering the tolerance however the hell it does it. Recommend reading more on it for yourself.

Considering people are getting off of methadone quickly after being on it for years I think it would work just as well with subs. Both methadone and subs are equally horrifying in their length of misery when it comes to w/d iirc.
/u/whomenoway
-1 points
8 months ago
I just had a horrible wreck
Spine totally fused from T7 through L1
13 broken ribs and a collapsed lung.

I was given 30mg oxy every 4hr.. 800.mg of gabspentin.. 1mg liquid diladad every 2hr....

When I left j got muscle relaxers, Gapentin.. and 5mg oxy.. 5x first two days 4x next two days on so on.
I called in agony and they sent valium but it's a taper too
.
When I got down to few pain pills I took Xanax I bought off here.. and jt took away. My wife hates them. So she's taken them and my
Valium. I'm am dying in pain!

We spent out savings during my 3 weeks.. I can't afford opiods, but Xanax is cheaper but I can't afford them either.
Alright enough crying bout me.
~MushLove~
/u/echuta777
1 points
8 months ago
sorry mate, exactly what happened to me in 2009. Drunk driver wrecked me & my car, she walked away, my spine was split. eventually 11 hour surgery, I'm a fucking frankenstein's monster with all these bolts and plates, and the USA has collectively lost its fucking mind and sending people home from surgeries like these with nothing. It's sadistic. Can you contact the surgeon's practice or are they the ones that dc'ed you with not nearly enough? If a hospitalist sent you home like that the surgeon may be able to intercede.
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
8 months ago
dude that's beyond fucked up. i was in the hospital for 3 weeks with an iv dilaudid drip i could press (& was pressing) every 15 minutes & they sent me home with nothing, but your situation sounds way more insane. this sort of thing is why i say doctors are the lowest form of predators in this country
/u/echuta777
1 points
8 months ago
The foundational problem is the DEA & CDC are completely rogue agencies at this point and using tactics meant for El Chapo on American doctors who dare write Rx opioids instead because doctors don't tend to carry guns at work. Now we have senators dictating our medical care with acts that damn near criminalize prescribing any opiate... while everyone is ODing on stuff from the streets/markets BECAUSE they can't get a legit prescription after discharge like you, /u/whomenoway and me.

The MDs that haven't collectively stood up and told them to fuck directly off en masse disgust me too, as you say. Hospitals are now bragging about being "opioid free" because insurance companies pay them 30-40% more if they don't prescribe opioid pain relief - see BCBS of Michigan for proof of that.

The "spine specialist" motherfuckers who called me a faker, drug seeker etc but never did the one goddamn xray needed for TWO FUCKING YEARS AFTER THE CRASH? Yeah, predatory fucking sadists. I still want to find every single one and beat them to death with the xray a random ER doc finally ordered bc I was back yet again unable to empty my bladder thanks to the nerve damage nevermind stand up. That man stopped me from offing myself because there it finally fucking was on one. simple. x-ray. 5th degree split at L5-S1, and I was dragging myself around on my arms w/forearm crutches but not one "specialist" ever did anything but call me a faker until that point.
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
8 months ago
hospitals are bragging about being opioid free? jfc that's next level. why not just advertise themselves as medieval torture chambers. we have the most expensive medical care in the universe yet the worst outcomes - this kind of shit is why.
spine specialists seem to be a "special" breed. you ever watch that series on christopher dunsch the "neurosurgeon" who was deliberately maiming/killing spinal patients for like a decade before the medical board got around to prosecuting him? they'll pounce on opioid prescribers in a second but a guy who's crippling his patients for shits & giggles gets to do it over & over
/u/echuta777
1 points
8 months ago
they'll pounce on opioid prescribers in a second but a guy who's crippling his patients for shits & giggles gets to do it over & over


EXACTLY. There was a literally almost identical incident in MA I read about and their state board took years to do a damn thing - apparently this is known statewide that the board is a joke for any medical/malpractice complaints, but a doc dares write an oxycodone Rx and gets an immediate nastygram from the state. And Boston is supposedly known for being such a fucking medical mecca in the US...???

and yeah. look up "opioid free emergency rooms" for more terrifying shit. They got a harp player and a wholistic healer!
/u/Aurora714
1 points
8 months ago
I was in post op recovery for 3 days and didnt even know for the first 24h what the pen shaped doohicky hanging on a lanyard above my head was for!
/u/playingwithfire
1 points
1 month ago
get well soon <3
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
wow thanks for the shout out /u/phatbagz and yes this is definitely a great substance ive seen FENT users stop using FENT all together from using this chem, i promise there is hope over the rainbow dont give up because the chem will change your life seriously just hmu on dark matter if anyone wants their life back from very potent opiates/opioids!
/u/yayoblisss
2 points
8 months ago
Im actually on the same track as /u/phatbagz planning to get clean by new years. Have been stocking up on everything in preparation to start detoxing first week of December.

What markets are you vending on? & how many grams do you recommend to detox with? Im interested to try it along side phatbagz. Thanks
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
right now i am on dark matter and i would get 3-10gs depending on the person honestly
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
8 months ago
Question ... how are people doing this? Or whats the ROA? are they eating it, snorting it or iving it? ... I don't IV and assume eating it has the lowest BA. So do people snort it as well? thanks man
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
ive only heard of people eating but im sure theres others out there doing it differently! Thanks for reaching out! /u/yayoblisss
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
8 months ago
Thanks for the response brother! Phatbagz clued me in on how it was supposed to be administered. I ordered some capsules. Plan to fill them with 25mg and start with 2 / 50mg then work my way up from there. Thanks again
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
your welcome if you need to ask me anymore questions just dm me or email me, my email is on my dread profile!
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
wow thanks for the shout out /u/phatbagz and yes this is definitely a great substance ive seen FENT users stop using FENT all together from using this chem, i promise there is hope over the rainbow dont give up because the chem will change your life seriously just hmu on dark matter if anyone wants their life back from very potent opiates/opioids!
/u/echuta777
1 points
8 months ago
query; I've seen the references to not having analgesic properties, as a longterm chronic pain patient I'd just want to back down my tolerance a bit to keep what little heavily restricted Rx meds I get as effective as possible. Can this be used concurrently with an Rx opioid like alternating doses? Avoiding wd is a plus but w/o some pain management I'm stuck in a wheelchair or my couch/bed & I can feel every single bone screw in my spine, impinged nerves in legs etc. Any info appreciated, thanks!
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
2 points
8 months ago*
I was reading that it does have pain killing properties. One of ChemicalsInChains earliest reviews on the listing he has up the guy said he was getting better pain relief than his oxy habit was providing him.

Check out the reviews on his listing on darkmatter. It's certainly worth a try.
/u/echuta777
1 points
8 months ago
thank you man, really appreciate the assist. I'll check DM pronto.
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
i honestly dont know the answer to your question but i would almost think that it wouldnt work but dont hold me to that! Thanks for inquiring!
/u/echuta777
2 points
8 months ago
Appreciate the time taken to reply, always a sign of a vendor with some integrity. Thank you!
/u/ChemicalsInChains P Vendor
1 points
8 months ago
np at all! and thank you!
/u/OldieHaun90
1 points
8 months ago
Commenting so I can check back. Sounds very intriguing. Look forward to your update.
/u/BigSnort
1 points
8 months ago
funny you mentioned this i was reading all the success stories on reddit rc last week. Some of these guys are absolute bulls too. 180mg of methadone a day and doing iso or eton lol your receptors prob wont even feel 10 grams of fent and they said it was able to get their tolerance back down. One guy said he was able to feel oxys again after doing zenes for 9 months. Really impressive chemical maybe a smart phama comapny will take advantage.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
Yeah, people saying that they're on high doses of methadone and within weeks they are getting a warm blanket of euphoria from fucking kratom.

Personally I can't see pharma putting this out. It is too useful for addicts to get off and I don't think the powers that be would like that. One reason why I'm going to stock up and throw a bunch in my freezer if it works well. I doubt it will see the light of day and probably will just get scheduled so it won't be able to benefit humanity.

Besides - I'd rather it just be off the radar and readily available without any sort of regulations for as long as possible.
/u/BigSnort
1 points
8 months ago
You make a good point. I just look at it as these pharma companies will do anything to make money and if they can somehow make this into a tolerance reducing drug so guys get off high doses or completely get off wtvr theyre doing itll be way more prescribed than methadone or subs. People dont call methadone liquid handcuffs for nothing.
People legit cannot get off it and stay on it forever.Subs also are tough to get off even though I think methadone is superior but way more regulated (going every day to clinic etc)

I thought of grabbing a few Gs as well just to have. My concern mostly is it feels like theyre adding zenes to almsot everything and some point ill get a bag of something and not feel shit. That scares me. Also reducing my tolerance sounds nice, id love to do a 10mg oxy and feel like im floating lol.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
That shit being tough to get off is their strongest point of the business model. But yeah, I'm just a nobody talkin out my ass but I doubt it ever makes it to market.

You should get zene test strips (I'm fairly sure they exist but maybe I'm trippin') if you're concerned about that. I'm pretty much 98% sure the sources that I'm buying through are clean and pure H. But of course buying any powder off the black market whether it's the DNMs or on the street and proceeding to ingest it is inherently sketchy if you think about it.
/u/BigSnort
1 points
8 months ago
i only seen like xy strips and everything else has to be sent to a lab for testing. If you can dm me a link for zene strips that be cool but ive never seen them personally.

And ya 100% thats the point. Never get off that shit. So ya maybe you do have a point, pharma would never research it. Not enough money to be made.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
Just google: BTNX Rapid Response Nitazene Test Strips

They exist.
/u/BigSnort
1 points
8 months ago
holy shit dude ty. Also tests for Medetomidine! thats the new xy. Was reading this is what dealers are putting in shit and getting clean xy tests cuz its actually Medet. Gonna grab that and the zene tests. thanks again

edit: just realized you have to buy 100 kits damn
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
There may be different brands available with lower numbers required, or you might be able to find smaller amounts on ebay or amazon.
/u/BigSnort
1 points
8 months ago*
good point. ebay is where i got my first fent test kit for $20 when it started coming up That shit is almost irrelevant now cuz 75-80% chance it does lol

btw nothing on ebay or amazon. sucks
/u/echuta777
2 points
8 months ago
bunkpolice dot com has several variants of testing kits. was rec'ed to me here, costs aren't too insane considering what's at stake esp. if you're doing harm reduction in the community but even just for yourself.
/u/BigSnort
2 points
8 months ago
damn hes sold out. shows how much that shit is in everything. thats exactly what im looking for though hopeflly he gets more soon. thanks again
/u/echuta777
1 points
8 months ago
np np, stay safe man
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
I came across a site that sells smaller quantities. www dot mdbio dot com
/u/BigSnort
1 points
8 months ago
haha ya i was the one who posted them. btw i think theyre associated with bunk police. I bought from both and they both shipped form the same town.
/u/BowzerBlade
1 points
8 months ago
i would love to know of what happens after youve tested it
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
Will definitely be updating.
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
8 months ago
My order of this should land today. Detoxing after thanksgiving / first week of December. Interested to hear how it went for you
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
I just received the first order of 3 grams yesterday. I should be receiving 25 grams later this week from another source on the clearnet that I vetted for legitimacy. I am planning to measure doses and encapsulate them 25mg/each. Probably be taking 50mg at a time which is probably slightly overkill but I don't want to be in question on whether or not I'm at maximum comfort. I'll start popping the capsules likely by next week.

I'll probably make a new thread when that time comes.
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
8 months ago
I looked a little on the clearnet & was only seeing places charging $700-$1800 per gram. Is there any forum here on dread or place you can suggest to find legit sources or point me in the right direction? Im super interested to hear how this goes for you & appreciate the response. Gonna order some capsules & mg scales. Thanks again
/u/MayIBangOnThis
1 points
8 months ago
chemicalsinchains on abacus or dark matter has it at a reasonable price! i just bought a few grams at $85 a gram. i have tried his stuff before, and it's legit! it seems to work honestly. you still are really tired but it does kill the withdrawals quite well
/u/MayIBangOnThis
1 points
8 months ago
i was able to take like 100mg without that much tolerance, and while i felt a bit weird i was mostly fine. i think it's possible that sublingual is a lot more powerful than oral, but i didn't want to be the guinea pig who risked it
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
8 months ago
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of opiates were you detoxing from and what was your tolerance? Like were you doing a couple oxy80's a day or herion or fentanyl and how often were you using prior to taking the SR?

And when you say you felt weird, what do you mean lols? A few times i've taken suboxone too soon and got that "weird feeling" right before i thought i was going to die. That shit is for the birds.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago
I'm assuming that you aren't/weren't physically dependent and you were not trying to use the SR for detox/tolerance reduction purposes? Just experimenting with it in general? Not sure when you say you were "mostly fine", you mean you were curbing the typical withdrawal you'd otherwise be experiencing or if you were just trying to say... you didn't feel much as far as effects go other than a bit weird and nothing unpleasant happened?

Only reason I assumed you weren't opiate dependent is cause you mentioned low tolerance but I suppose you can have a lower tolerance relative to others and still be physically hooked. Which is why my tism is spiking and I'm attempting to clarify.
/u/MayIBangOnThis
1 points
8 months ago*
yes, curbing the withdrawal effects. i still had withdrawal as it was a heavy binge and i had been hooked on kratom for a bit before. so i had rebound withdrawal, mostly mental but some physical. that said, i didn't experience much in the way of withdrawal symptoms after taking the SR. but my tolerance was much lower than daily users of H/fent.

i did feel some euphoria actually - and sleepiness. i took a lot more than what people report online, though. i was definitely chasing the effect a bit, and it does have a high to it that i experienced. but for this next batch i will just be using to curb withdrawal and stretching it as far as i can go.

the weirdness i felt was tightness in my chest (almost anxiety) and some discoordination when ambling around. i definitely pushed the limit dosage-wise but read it didn't recruit beta-arrestin so was a bit careless, i guess. i definitely got some mad anxiety that i was going to OD/die from taking so much, but i didn't in the end. i did however chug multiple glasses of coke to neutralize the substance as best i could with the acidity (found a study showing the acidity broke it down).

i imagine folks with heavy tolerance won't be able to get much of a high like i did. it was very unique, though - didn't feel close to any opiate i had experienced before. but some light, warm, sleepy euphoria.
/u/BowzerBlade
1 points
8 months ago
great thank you. there is someone close to me that will benifit from this
/u/Emerald_CityBB
1 points
8 months ago*
/u/phatbagz, thank you for this post. Please consider making new posts each time to report your experience with this product. If you update it here, only the people on the thread will see it and it obviously deserves the widest possible circulation
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
3 points
8 months ago
Yes, I was planning to make a new thread after I prepare my regimen and start experimenting with it. I'll be sure to update everyone. I'm expecting to begin next week.
/u/yayoblisss
1 points
8 months ago
Question, how are people doing this? As in what ROA? Im guessing IV or snorting it? i would imagine oral has the worst BA
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
1 points
8 months ago*
Oral is the ROA I believe most have been taking. But I did read one chap was snorting it. I'm personally planning on encapsulating a bunch of doses around 25mg and popping 2 at a time when I'm ready to begin the experiment.
/u/Emerald_CityBB
1 points
8 months ago
Looking forward to your reports. Generally speaking, oral dosing results in more consistent drug blood levels than more direct ROAs. In clinical situations this is always the choice over more direct methods as far as I know. Good luck
/u/[deleted]
1 points
8 months ago
commenting on this for later. Was on subs before and coming off was 30-45 days of hell. Closest thing I have had that has been a "miracle" cure for opiate WD is gabapentin/pregabalin stacked with clonidine and a possible benzo. That reduced opiate W/D by about 70-75%. If this is legit, I may have to purchase for an offramp.
/u/phatbagz 📢 P
2 points
8 months ago
I am planning to get started this upcoming week with experiments but I will be creating a new thread. So keep an eye out for it.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
8 months ago
Thank you. Will keep an eye out
/u/NorthOfTheNeXus
1 points
7 months ago
some good info on sr-17018

https://old.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/1hcmczj/sr17018_faq_crosspost/
and its been compiled for easier reading on
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ibgxFT9z9bHqQn7HftNGfOxfiBDyU1fK0QMWSfLkvSM/edit?tab=t.kf0vqg3qmkpm
/u/slabsofdabs420
1 points
7 months ago
Where can I get this for the best price at? My quick 2 second google search shows it to be incredibly expensive? Over $1200 for 100mgs.
/u/cthulhuskittens
1 points
7 months ago
not sure where you saw that price, but no one is actually charging that much...longflourish charges $40/g with a 5g minimum