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Statement about the situation between Sportsbet and Abacusmarket : DarkNetAustralia | Torhoo darknet markets

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/u/whocares123 whocares123
4 points
1 year ago
How do we know you are not compromised and spreading FUD. This whole situation is suss as fuck
/u/aufreedom FreeMod
3 points
1 year ago
I think thats a reach, technically ok its possible, but very unlikely all things considered. LE would be doing all of this for what? One vendor thats not even that big?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Im confused.

/u/aufreedom FreeMod 2 points
2 days ago
I changed his flair to say red hot, as all evidence points to associates being compromised but not the ringleader himself but police are likely still investigating. If all turns out ok in a few months, I will change it back.
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All evidence points to associates being compromised, but /u/narcoticsworldwide is saying they have direct contact with the team and theres nothing going on just some "private family issues"
/u/aufreedom FreeMod
1 points
1 year ago
Yes but after I made that comment, NarcoticsWorldwide messaged me about this situation and provided clarification, however his flair is still going to say red hot until he gets back from vacation and we get confirmation that orders are being received.
/u/wilsonone
1 points
1 year ago*
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/u/aufreedom FreeMod
1 points
1 year ago
We will see what happens but I made sure his flair will stay as red hot until he gets back and we get confirmation legitimate orders are being received.
Yea so why would the LE doing this for? There are people importing tonnes of coke to Australia and the LE will keep his busy with a vendor with like what 500 sales? Cmon... my statement was more for to let people know why sportsbet was banned and unbanned.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
You think in Australia vendors with under 500 sales get a free pass? Because you say so?
If I was compromised you would see it all over the news, don't worry. And why would I spread FUD if I there are messages available between me and the market admins?

You can do whatever you want to do with it, but this is what it is. Thats my story.
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
This is a stupid take. LE release busts strategically. They wouldnt bust a big vendor then release it the same day as it would dry up the other opportunities.
/u/whocares123 whocares123
1 points
1 year ago
What has this got to do with you anyway. You saying you supply Sportsbet?
This has nothing to do with me, read before you write. And it is not your business who I supply, are you from the LE? None of your business.
/u/whocares123 whocares123
1 points
1 year ago
Maybe you should stay in your own fucking lane and stop being a cat.
/u/DonnyThornberry
1 points
1 year ago
on god
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
NWW is trying to imply he supplies SB while not saying much about much. NWW selective scammer and has ulterior motive here.
/u/[deleted]
3 points
1 year ago*
I do not believe this, it contradicts other information. Now I am wondering why you have made this post. Im sure others with more knowledge than me will shine some light.

I am in the car with /u/whocares123, whole thing sus as fuck. Yoiure saying that the vendor was mia because of private family things? thats the biggest cop out going around especially when there's been word of members of SB crew being arrested. now youre coming on her saying all the shit that doesn't add up can be explained by " oh family issues" and that makes all the discrepancies disappear.

I think not my friend, and GL to anyone who believes this shit.
You don't have to believe. My statement is to show the situation why sportsbet got banned and unbanned. Just for customers safety.
Nobody forces you to buy from Sportsbet, there are plenty other vendors who has good stuff.
/u/rumrogers
3 points
1 year ago*
i have tried to keep a level head about this whole fked situation but this post has only ADDED to the bright red glow tbh. In addition to the other points already raised:
* so SB vanishes due to "family issues" during a time when a shipping team who has packaging just like his gets busted, but still hopped online 2 weeks ago to post
Mr Coles hands down, has consistently been the best in the Australian market for a number of years now, and no vendor including us can match that pricepoint for the quality.

it was already pointed out this was baffling / out of character, really not hard or overly paranoid to assume account compromised and the LE crawling all over this subdread trying to obfuscate this whilst setting up an op on mrcoles now too.

the story keeps changing, everyone can make up their own minds but frankly this whole thing stinks to high heavens and im having no part of it copppers, enjoy your deathtrap ladies
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
my ni88a
/u/DonnyThornberry
1 points
1 year ago
back this 100%, this shouldnt even need to be said SB is long gone now anyone that beleives otherwise got to much to learn
/u/DonnyThornberry
3 points
1 year ago
I was in touch with sb talking nealry everyday, over a encrypted app they had reacently moved to, a day or 2 after i recieved my mail i hadnt heard from him since, nor his account had been active, then the whole news article played, with nearly idencticle photos of mdma in tubs, that sb had sent me weeks prior, the mdma was spitting image of the mdma i had received aswell as photos in tubs was exact same tubs the pollice showed, same mylar bag as what i received was found in the oven at the raid, no cash was found in raid, that saying its probably all in crypto, and sb send me listings for upto 10kg of mdma, while tjeu got done with about 10kg in the raid, why would sb just go mia after sending me my stuff then says his gonna send more and goes mia, then msgs weeks later on wikr where he just moved from saying nothing about anything just says where moving to signal, after just moving to threema a weeek or 2 before hand, to top it off sb asked me if i could get him any rack as his staying on the gold coast and doesnt know anyone with rack locally, the raid was in the gold coast, beleive want but i know sb would be in contact with me over our last arrangements if he was stilll active, deffintly LE, same goes as narcotics worldwide just as much as a suss cunt
/u/DonnyThornberry
1 points
1 year ago
he was doing massive offline deals, upto 10kg at a time deals, why would he just go mia if he had all this md he was trying to pump out, and all this money to make, just suss how he got done with 10 kg and had upto 10kg listings
you was in touch with sb nearly every day, but now not anymore. I am still in touch with him, so don't worry about the customers. Soon there is enough stock for you all. But I am just trying to explain that SB isn't arrested and abacus is also not compromised or whatever. Nothing more or less.
/u/cornilius
1 points
1 year ago
But how do you know. What's to say you're talking to LE so they can nab you too.
/u/whocares123 whocares123
1 points
1 year ago
He doesn't know his ass from his elbow, just makes dumbass satements
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
I can 2nd the theerma aspect
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
Be wary, NWW is a known selective scammer. Take that how you will, search dread and you will find this info easily. So what is his motive here?
If nothing was wrong with sportsbet why didnt they make a post ASAP, instead go MIA for an entire month.
In the past when SB are OOS they will make frequent updates of their profile.
everyone should be asking:

1. who the fuck are you?
2. why the fuck should we even trust you?
3. why the fuck all this fuss about a single vendor?
to answer your questions

1. Im a a fucking vendor who supplies vendors in Australia and other countries.
2. Nobody asks you to believe me, just telling the situation.
3. I'm just making my clarification to show that nobody got compromised by the LE, some aussie people are paranoid. Thats why. So everything cool.
/u/Troopz
1 points
1 year ago
You made the right call with the information you had at hand. Thanks for sharing so openly. Hope sportsbet is doing okay and is back up and running soon - that will be the only way to really finally put this all to rest.
/u/FlumPuffer
1 points
1 year ago
Isnt it a bit concerning that a vendor can just message an admin and get another vendor banned with no type of evidence. Whatever evidence was provided has proven to be false now that the unban has happened. No one else sees an issues with it being so simple that he got someone banned based on his word. Dont get me wrong i see that he was trying to do the right thing and help protect customers but being able to just message a market admin and have him ban another vendor is crazy.
You are 100% right, but I do supply some more vendors from Australia and the market admins know that so they just trust my word. Thats all. And it is MY mistake that I've handled to early, but thats why I made a post about this situation.
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
Well nobody here trusts you, you're a scammy as fuck "vendor" with a busted as fuck contact.

Let me be the first to say fuck off dickhead, nobodys using sportsbet again.

This is apparently what abacus said. Is it a lie? Did our ex"mod" make it up?

this was from u/abacus
Good day sir,

Can you delete this post? /post/d6c763b7b5ea61df0f54

LE operation in QLD is related to sportsbet, but the guy is free
and they did not have any evidence against him. No buyer's information
were compromised and he is going to stay inactive some time

Please, delete the post to avoid LE linking arrested people with him

Best regards
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/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Hey admins

/u/aufreedom
/u/dontlaugh
/u/gofastyeah

Can the original/unedited post be published. This post has been altered to align with what /u/kangarookicks is saying. The amount of FUD can only lead to the conclusion that LE is bright and active in these forums again.

"Since they we're silence a couple days and some bust pull up on the news I decided to message the market admins and asked the admins to ban sportsbet for the safety reason of the customers" this part has been added in since kangaroo has appeared.
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
2 points
1 year ago
Can someone from Abacus please confirm this is true.
/u/Vito CEO - Abacus Project
/u/AbacusMarket General Information
/u/AbacusMarketPR Marketing - Abacus
/u/MichaelCorleone Mod - Abacus
/u/KangarooKicks Mod - Abacus
/u/SonnyCorleone Safety Mod - Abacus
/u/Australia 🇦🇺 AUSSIE Mod - Abacus
/u/bytemaster ☑ VENDORS Mod - Abacus
/u/TTTz

/u/NarcoticsWorldwide - why on earth would you post this. terrible opsec on your behalf and i have a mind to remove it for your own safety.

/u/wearybuyer hard to know which cunt to believe when they all claim to be the smartest guy in the room with inside info, and all sound like the dumbest guy in the room.
/u/dontlaugh
I am not sure what you're asking to be confirmed since you don't specify it in your message.

....

General Message to everyone:

Our junior mods banned sportsbet for suspicious of sportsbet being arrested, but then the ban was uplifted because they are free and doing fine. This is something that happens time to time to different vendors, as any other platform sometimes verification is required.

There is not much more to talk about this being honest. Unless you want to make a drama out of it.

Mods decided to take the ban out of sportsbet after appropriate verification. Many vendors go through this when there is suspicious around and our safety team decides to put a temporal ban.

But let me you something, if the Australia community does not want to trust the sportsbet brand anymore, I am telling vito, and he will definitely come to dread to confirm the permanent ban of sportsbet, because Abacus always pay attention to its AU community since we consider AU to be our home for Abacus since day #1.

The only one losing here would be those buyers that used to use sportsbet for their stuff, but again, sportsbet will surely create a new account on Abacus or other market sInce as far as I know they are about to receive new merchandise.

Vito, me and rest of team are already busy enough taking care of market, we cannot invest our time here in these ''cheap talking'' whether a single vendor is busted or not.

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Some notes for those users that seems confused about what real life is like:

Many people on this forum which are also drug users seems to haven't ever experience street life. Because people should remember, that drug vendors are arrested time to time and then, yes, they get out and yes, they start selling again and so on...and brothers and sisters it is not like here is any different, many vendors selling on markets are also selling in ''real life'', sometimes they get arrested, they spend few days at prison and get out, and so on, and unless they get caught with lot of stuff they won't get long prison sentences.

As long as vendors do not get PGP compromised or data compromised all is good. You cannot judge a vendor whether they spent night in prison for being high while driving or whatever because is none of your business.

So please stop acting as a vendor career is supposed to be ended as long as one day they get arrested for some reason, because is not how it is. If their pgp is fine, their data is fine, they might get arrested for having sex in public, but still they are not compromised.
/u/dontlaugh I'm serious
1 points
1 year ago
sorry, i just wanted to clarify that what NW was saying regarding him informing abacus of the issue(leading to the initial ban) and subsequent removal(and for what reasons) was true.

there has just been a fair bit of misinformation floating around about this vendor and people saying things on abacus' behalf. wanted the information direct from abacus rather than the heresay going around.

thanks for the reply.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Yeah when i saw the new post from Kangarookicks below, i thought weird that it was different info to what NWW posted intiially, so i looked at the original post and it was edited. Unfortunatelt the transparency of the moderation log only shows admins activities, not edits by posters.

Either way, this subs and situations getting too red hot for my liking and its more of a liability than anything so im out. GL my non fed brothers and sisters (and GL to feds too)
Because people are claiming that abacus got compromised by LE and sportsbet to. I am just explaining to people to tell them that its not the case.

And opsec for what? I ain't talking about any details or whatever stealth. On my side, the LE knows that I am a vendor so they also know that I work in Australia and other countries.
/u/KangarooKicks
1 points
1 year ago*
First of all, vendors do not get banned for no reason and just a message from a vendor won't result in a ban. Sportsbet got banned because NarcoticsWorldwide shared some concerns about sportsbet being compromised and at that moment, the information shared with us plus some details that matched from our conversations with SB allowed us to confirm that NarcotisWorldwide was in contact with SB.
Since SB did not attend their account for some days and with all the information together we decided that the safest option would be to ban him. If everything was a mistake then we would just remove the ban. In the past sierrafoxtrot got busted and we banned him when it was suspected that he got busted but we could not know it 100% sure. We have banned another vendors and also unbanned them for different reasons. SB got un-banned because they came back and through a support ticket they provided enough to confirm their identity and that they're free indeed.

So, we think that /u/NarcoticsWorldwide did well alerting us because at that moment banning sportsbet seemed the best option to keep the community safe

In any case, we wish the best to sportsbet.
/u/aierbushang
0 points
1 year ago
Good to know that