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Stop asking "Is this gonna work?" : Refunds | Torhoo darknet markets

FUCKING TRY IT. Refunding is an amazing form of fraud because there's no fucking risk! Just find out how long you have to return the item and what their return process is, and if they don't refund you before the deadline just return it and get your money back and move on to the next. I don't know how many fucking times I have to say it, most stores are free under $500 and ALL stores are free under $300, they don't give a fuck about your petty ass order. $500-1000 is kinda like a grey area, where it's harder than $500 but significantly easier that orders over $1000, like this is usually when the company runs an internal investigation that could actually work out in your favor even without ftid/good se. Orders over $1000 are the ones you usually need a specific method for a specific store, and there's no point in asking people about orders larger than $1000 because no one will risk burning their own store to help you. Use the same strategy (return if no refund by deadline) to find higher limit stores and test out different se/ftid scans.

TLDR: No one is gonna tell you if your idea will work and risk burning their own stores. Just try it, and return the shit if it doesn't work. What are you so worried about, there's no risk!!!
/u/Angelsofhell
4 points
10 months ago
Started making some money once I stopped doing this. Dickrode for handouts for far too long. Not saying don’t ask questions. But you gotta figure some of this shit out yourself. Indigo right as usual.
/u/realrichnigga
2 points
11 months ago
i'm surprised they would let you return it after you attempt to refund
/u/indigo2013 📢 Community Mod
0 points
11 months ago
There is so much shit involved with any type of refunding that just makes you go "How the FUCK is this possible?". I actually have an entire posts worth of thoughts on the topic, and one day I'll get around to writing that
/u/realrichnigga
1 points
11 months ago
Interesting, i mean theres also guys who offer refund services on amazon and u can just order it to your own house everytime on multiple accounts and fill out a document and he still refunds i dont really understand it unless hes using a amazon insider.

It also doesnt matter how much you try to refund you just have to pay a fee.
/u/indigo2013 📢 Community Mod
1 points
11 months ago
I would bet it's just pr honestly. Refunders really like to make it seem like they're fancy and mysterious but it's usually just some method everyone knows but doesn't really use under their own name, like prs. Either way paying someone to refund for you is a really bad idea, shoutout to systoned for proving that point for me lmao
/u/realrichnigga
1 points
11 months ago
yeah, i would never pay a nigga to refund me because theyll end up waiting days, i had a friend who used his service and had to wait weeks lol + the 30% fee
/u/Invicta
1 points
10 months ago
For people who don't really know much about social engineering/refunding it's a great deal tbh. You can wait for weeks on the refund to hit your acc and pay 30% instead of paying 100% and be done with it.
/u/indigo2013 📢 Community Mod
1 points
10 months ago
Oh man, no not at all. This is a dangerous thing to post, I might have to make a post addressing this for people.
/u/Invicta
1 points
10 months ago
Damn lol, I might not see what you mean. What's so dangerous about that?
/u/indigo2013 📢 Community Mod
1 points
10 months ago
It's kind of a complex answer, which is why I said I'll have to make a post about it. It basically boils down to anyone who can't refund for themselves is likely still in the stage of using their own name and info to refund with, and the refunder you're paying has absolutely 0 incentive to not use dangerous refunding strategies for someone refunding under their own name (like ftid or pr), and that's your best case scenario. Worst case is you use some big refunder/boxer like systoned who gets caught, and then immediately cuts a deal and sells out his client base. There's a good bit more nuance to it then that, and some other more minor reasons but that's what it boils down to.
/u/Invicta
1 points
10 months ago
Why do you see ftid as a dangerous refunding strategy? The last point makes sense but still costumers are not authorities priority. Catching the main refunder is what they're looking for
/u/indigo2013 📢 Community Mod
2 points
10 months ago
"Why do you see ftid as a dangerous refunding strategy?"

It's the easiest honeypot I've ever seen in my entire life, but I won't go into details here, I'll reserve that for the post.

"The last point makes sense but still costumers are not authorities priority. Catching the main refunder is what they're looking for"

Tell that to the guy systoned ratted on for one amazon refund. When the feds come knocking you'll turn in your own mother for a reduction, and these refunders are no different. Giving both your identity and proof you committed fraud to an anonymous criminal really shouldn't need any explanation for why it's an awful idea lmao
/u/Invicta
1 points
10 months ago
I'll be waiting for your post. Good luck
/u/acablol
1 points
11 months ago
I see what you're getting at, but like,

would it work?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
10 months ago
how dare u try to learn and better your skillset
/u/bigtrench
1 points
8 months ago
thats what i am getting from this like dam u could at least point me in the right direction
/u/GatitoMind
1 points
11 months ago
Sorry bro, I just wanted to know if anyone else had tried it that way.
/u/awfulname
0 points
11 months ago
the tldr was tl so i dr
/u/Doncheds
0 points
10 months ago
I ordered close to $1000 of items but was outside my house at the time it was delivered. The guy photo'd the package and I can be seen in the background around 5m's away behind a bush next to my car, but looking at the guy.
Not sure if anyone can help, I've done loads of DNAs before but this one I'm not sure if it will work.
Given the amount, I guess an investigation will take place and possibly a police report required - so the store may ask for ID to prove the guy picture in the distance isn't me (I can do a fake ID), but if police report is required, I have a record and mugshots.
My question is: if they request ID to check it's not me in the background, could I send a fake ID in and would this be checked by police if report is filed?

Not sure of the level of details between the store investigation and police and how they work together or if the police get involved at all
/u/bigtrench
1 points
8 months ago
most likely not unless u use your real name on the account and the laws look u up and see you the same guy but if not i see no way for them to know who u are just cuz u in the pic not like they gon run face rec.
/u/chungus23
1 points
5 months ago
Out of curiosity, is your record related to carding or refunding or anything of that sort
/u/[deleted]
-5 points
11 months ago
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠑⢄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡠⠊⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠑⢄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡠⠊⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠢⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠴⠊⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠑⠠⢀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⠄⠊⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠒⠤⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡀⣠⠤⠒⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢅⣒⠢⠤⠄⢀⣀⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣀⡀⠠⢤⡴⣒⣊⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀

uh ok???