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I am a low level drug dealer who on occasion will supply. I live in a college town where pretty much anything flies to be honest and I know a couple other dealers who deal hard drugs and are way shittier than me when it comes to opsec. I know I will be fine but I always love improving my by risk management. Now to the problem. I know this is horrible opsec but just asking some older people who know their shit what exactly is wrong with telegram? I only use telegram to contact and be contacted by customers and I use signal to message my employees about what to package ect. I feel like telegram is the only option for me though and even then barely anyone in my town uses it I've had to make all my customers download it and tell their friends about it. but what exactly is the risk I'm taking by using telegram does it just make it so that if I am ever under investigation by LE I they can see all my texts even if I have auto delete on or is it more that LE is surfing through telegram and looking for people to investigate? any insight would be great thank you
/u/fuckscammerss4lyfe 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
if you had to get them to download TG, why not get them to download sgnal instead?
/u/slimjim111 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
because I started using signal way after I had a established client base. I don't want to switch over because I'm not sure how well it would work out and most people know me for how my tele is laid out and I've tried to recreate that but signal isn't the same
/u/fuckscammerss4lyfe 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
slow transition might be better than no transition . perhaps get a new line and get people to download it and offer special deals until the transition is over , it will push people to use it for the discount , and eventually, they will be used to it .
/u/amicursed
1 points
2 weeks ago
lol u are playing real real shedule 1 game , maybe inviting them to jabber while hosting ur own one can be more better in opsec side ,
/u/fuckscammerss4lyfe 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
most people won't go that far, they will download an app though from the app store and it is as simple as whatsapp but better
/u/amicursed
1 points
2 weeks ago
They are putting there self and vendor in big risk btw ...
many ppl don't take lsd are like this lol ...
/u/fuckscammerss4lyfe 🍼
1 points
2 weeks ago
if it was for me, there should be no communication electronically at all other than setting appointment times , but the customers come of all shapes and forms, lazy to increase opsec, curious enough to need constant communication about product which is not a good thing for anybody, and dumb enough to not know the difference between what is important and what isn't. they will stick with TG coz a pretty interface instead of educating themselves to better alternatives to cover their asses
/u/ProjectCannabis
1 points
2 weeks ago
Just use a trap phone , location services off, mullvad vpn and use telegram or signal to talk to your customers.

You can also get a burner number esim, to activate those or use silent link for data on said phone and buy an aged telegram account and back it up to a protonmail email. That way you can just share the username and no phone number needed to be given out.
/u/slimjim111 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
where do i buy a telegram account and whats the safest way to secure a trap phone without connecting it to my name?
/u/IKeepForgettingMyPassword
1 points
2 weeks ago
Buy it in cash, I recommend a pixel 6 or 7 (relatively cheap), install graphene OS, install orbot (it's a free VPN using the TOR network I'm unsure why people talk about Mullvad likes its heaven sent)

SIM card is same thing buy in cash

Keep your personal device off and the two away from each other or the trap phone in a Faraday bag while its at your house.

Telegram is unsafe as fuck maybe if you open up a store on Signal and run heavy discounts or extra product and announce it via your telegram to see who would be interested.
/u/slimjim111 📢
1 points
2 weeks ago
thank you for the advice I'm definitely gonna look into both this and a tele account as I've been trying to better my opsec a little new to using DNMs to sell on the street.
/u/IKeepForgettingMyPassword
1 points
1 week ago
Discounts or free product always entice people slowly migrate and any new customers signal only
/u/ringct
1 points
2 weeks ago
Avoid at all costs.