Test4Pay: Steveirwin (and all alts) have been removed from moderation by Dread staff : Test4Pay | Torhoo darknet markets

the centralised funds and 0 transparency on the funding was always going to be an issue somewhere down the line.

bring back /u/HippySurfer to sort out the admin!

EDIT - side note... hopefully /u/bigdog729 isn't caught up in this(been off dread a week too)

Was not aware of this program. We are the lucky ones, based in Benelux, where you can freely and anonymously test your drugs.

I am a vendor also so that makes me not neutral. This project MUST continue,. People are dying like mentioned.

I willl begin with becoming a dread premium member since its some form of donation to Dread. I have already suggested to the subdreads concerning my products that i am willing to pay for the testing of my products and others.

But since im a vendor im not neutral or not percieved as such.

ANyway, very sad to hear. I will do a small contribute to the dread cause, for now its the least i can do.

DS

Wow. A damn fucking shame. I don't know what steveirwin had going on behind the scenes, but he created something truly great. Something like this absolutely should not and cannot be left to die.

Any possibility of Dread absorbing T4P, or starting a program yourselves? I don't know the logistics of it, and you guys have enough on your plates, but if it was a crowd funded resource, only accessible as funds are available... feasible? Maybe some of the markets would chip in ... maybe wishful thinking but a Dread official testing resource could be huge.

Fuuuuuck, that sucks. I agree on the desire to wanting to continue pushing forward, this kind of work is far too important, it's literally saving lives.

I would suggest in the future that any donated funds be controlled by a multi-sig wallet. Have it setup so that the requirements for sending funds out are high but not absolute (i.e. 2/3 or 3/5 but not 4/4, etc.).

I have no clue what is going on.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions as of yet.
I honestly don't think the team at T4P is up to anything shady, at least I know I am not.

Thank you for this /u/Paris
We have members who submitted samples expecting to be reimbursed and afaik only SI had access to the funds. It was his idea to start this project and he was funding it himself to pay back how well life had treated him.

I want to especially thank /u/mommabear for her goodhearted campaign on Supermarket dnm aimed at funneling some of their profits toward this worthy project.

As for SI, I hope this is all about unpaid parking citations. Good luck bro!

Keep test4pay alive. What is needed?

Will be very sad to see this project die, hope we keep it alive. SI didn't even really get on the drugs anymore from my convos with him. Wonder what other shit was going on.

there goes my 5k

This is truly sad. I hope that this service can live on in one way or another. I want to send out a Thank you to this subs creators, mods and everyone who has posted test results. It really does make a big difference.

Thanks for staying on top of this, /u/Paris.

Terrible loss to the harm reduction community as a whole and good work for being active about this dread team.

Oh shit this is terrible! They were doing real good. Shit that sucks

Yes, the project is undeniably imperative to the community. It just seemed fishy as hell as i tried unsuccessfully to somehow join the project with my experience and testing facility availability. Never got any decent replies although i was actually never seeking any real monetary gain or reimbursement. It was a red flag i didn´t really pay attention to...

I also don't think that the arrest ( if it´s even true) was solely based on t4pay. It actually gave LE some indirect intelligence on vendors suspected of selling dangerous cut products. That way they can direct their attention to those. Just my opinion

ohh this is really a sad news for the community.

MAYBE we can keep this up, i can t promise by now, but maybe there is an option of lab testing for me, i need someone living in Ger, berlin, pls hit me up if u live there and are interested in a project like this

thats bad news

I have 3 submitted MDMA tests I've been waiting on and this explains it. T4P should absolutely continue and hopefully reimburse those who've tested in the interim. I could probably find someone to donate to help with that and will be following this.

Sorry I thought was grammar for vocabulary .

~QM

How do you think it can be improved?

Was expecting the worst with other active members since we were without news for weeks now.. What a sad story. Hopefully people will continue to share testings results even without the bonus money.

I think a program like this is very valuable to the community.

One solution I would like to hear opinions on.

What about keeping the program going with a multisig wallet?

Bitcoin would be the easiest, and keeping track of the funds would be easier. The down side is it's bitcoin and I don't want to encourage anyone to use it.

XMR MS

Tougher to use, and the funds wouldn't be tracked, but a 2/3 MS wallet with a few trusted members could help ensure something like this doesn't happen again. If one is arrested, or vanishes the funds could still be moved out by the other 2 members, and a 3rd person could be added to the project to keep it as 2/3 MS. It might take longer for users to get paid, but I think it can at least help with preventing something like this from happening again.

/u/quasar1 you have a lot of experience in this area. What do you think?

that sucks,
steve is good person

I miss my avengers that was fun running it for a minute so many good friends

Not sure I'll be donating anything towards a second fundraising goal. More than 100% of my XMR made Test4Pay went back into buying more reagents and dipsticks. There was zero profit. It did it it as a service to the community, the payments just significantly eased the burden.

u/TimothyWeary

Is my original account if you want to see my tests. I had just received a full box of reagents 2 weeks ago and was excited to get testing again but there are still some other things I need. My fucking question is, why aren't the markets chipping in for this? Literally one of the largest ketamine/oxy/heroin dealers on Bohemia openly sells fentanyl laced heroin - which he accidentally sent me instead of the 10 bags of ketamine shards I ordered. His recklessness could have killed someone and he respond with attitude and little threats.

I hope they don't turn into another WHM where if you make it above a certain amount of weekly sails, you're basically untouchable and can do whatever you want.

Can we start an open wallet that records (privately) where the donations come from? That way if it works, the biggest donaters can get credit if they wish. If we don't get enough in donations, everyone gets their XMR back.

Personally I'm waiting for a half grand in my Bohemia wallet I'm locked out of. My drive crash, taking the secret key with it (should have had made a backup). Thankfully the support staff was willing to replace my PGP key entirely after I proved enough knowledge that only I personally could know. Like who my recent DMs were with, my recent orders, my recent deposits, and most importantly, the specific details of those deposits because I still have access to the wallet (the rest was from memory).

Then that shit happened with all the AV's marking the 64bit version of the browser .exe as malware and guaranteeing it (quite often so strongly the user couldn't manually okay it). Then Bohemia started having troubles and I couldn't get it for 12 days. I was literally at the point in the conversation where the very nice admin was like "tell me you're replacement public key and I'll fix you up" and then BOOM, can't get into Bohemia. They suddenly have huge problems on their hands apparently. Much bigger than mine.

They were replying every 3-4 hours, but now that I've actually gotten logged into the emergency link about 4-5 times (maybe 3-5% of the times I actually tried and was successful), I've had no response from them since the last one ~2 weeks ago.

Once (if) I get access to my half grand in my market wallet, I'd happily donate to such a project. I was already manually testing drugs with reagents and dipsticks. Recently got sent 10g of heroin instead of ketamine and I'd love to do my "review" on that (it tested positive for fent by the way, 4 times, from 4 different parts of the bag) but I realized since I can't access my original account here either, that I'd just get accused of being a fake TimorhyWeary, and not the (semi) well known reviewer.

I feel like it's gonna be weeks before they get around to finishing my support ticket through, since they have much larger problems on their hands, and I don't want to harass hem about it

If we're honest here, the list of top 5 donators should be the biggest 5 English speaking DNM's. Except too many of them don't have rules against sell product with fent in it, or would ignore or even cover up a report if that vender makes a lot of money (just like WhiteHouseMarket did).

What is the up to date information on Steveirwin?

I would love to see this project continue, and if the legal complexities in the USA could be resolved or if we could at least find some viable solutions for sending and receiving samples safely it would really make a world of difference in terms of harm reduction and general education.

If anybody has some ideas on how this can be acomplished or wants to have a discussion about this topic I would love it if you would send a DM or simply reply here and start the dicussion on how we can start getting people like me with access to testing equipment connected with people who want to have their bags analyzed safely and dare I say, maybe even levally.

RIP to all the people who submitted tests 4 pay lol (6 tests now)

What do you think biut Fentanyl vials ?

I'm not clued up on this, did he test people's drugs? Would they have arrested him for drug possession (and I guess money laundering too, actually)?

He got what he deserved.