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Trump targets Mexican Cartels : CafeDread | Torhoo darknet markets

A few hours after being sworn into office, US President Trump signed a series of executive orders. One of the series is the aim to designate cartels and other similar groups as foreign terror organisations. What does this mean and What is it to be expected? Will this affect the price of cocaine and other related products?

The last piece is what implementation looks like to who is going to be responsible for this. Will we see the militairy oversees and in what degree? How will prosecution look like? Who is going to be involved in all of this? The national guard, doj, nsa and more?

What are your thoughts?

/u/minimalist

4 points

5 months ago

Want to destroy cartel? Legalize, standardize and offer what they offer for better quality and price.

/u/enzyme P

1 points

5 months ago

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/u/minimalist

1 points

5 months ago

You can, if the production of the quality goods exceed demand the price will drop, and there is no need to hyke the prices for corruption and risk factoring, most drugs and pills are not expensive some are artificially price controlled to be more expensive but nothing is stopping people from producing shit ton of quality chems

/u/enzyme P

1 points

5 months ago

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/u/minimalist

1 points

5 months ago

Actually it will lead to better quality because the process of making the product will have more iteration and it will become more efficient, I dont think its like food where its more complicated you need the full chain like soil the livestock to be cultivated in good conditions to yield a good product, its mostly simple chemistry from maybe a couple limiting things like the original plant, but look at rice and all the wheat shit we have and how cheap it is.

Also technology will be developed to increase yield on those plants. Look at the weed market, you can buy enough weed to keep you high until the singularity. So it depends on if its from natural sources like plants, or synthetic. But truth is if its fully unrestricted more supply will flood the market with little resistance and I dont think the demand will ever catch up to it and not as quick as they can pump them out.

/u/SacredHagiophobia P

1 points

5 months ago

Of course you can 100% you can

/u/NiccoloMachiaveli

3 points

5 months ago*

yes, it will affect the price of cocaine and other product. the prices will be insanely expensive since the demand will be a lot more dangerous to fulfill. since america is aiming to be more conservative and trump is gunning for drug trafficking, cartels, tightened borders and imposing tariffs may be the reasons why price will go up for narcotics.

this would be the first time in history cartels are designated as terrorist organizations. main argument was that they do indeed invoke terror on the general public and in a sense they themselves paved a way for this law to take effect. trump essentially is making drug trafficking organizations in mexico part of the war or terror which is an "official war" and hes made it possible for US Forces to carry out serious operations normally you wouldnt see.

as always though, criminals will adapt and find a way to make it work but since it harder to get the drugs in, itll be a lot pricier.

/u/NiccoloMachiaveli

2 points

5 months ago

bringing the military wouldnt do much except cause devastation. mexican cartels are vast and control a lot of politicians and they also have territorial advantage. it would be another afghanistan war and would end with a withdrawal in my opinion. essentially a guerilla warfare which is un-winable.

/u/CrocodileDundee

1 points

5 months ago*

Definitely an asymmetric encounter, would be a US COIN operation working side-by-side with the various Mexican Military branches.

/u/NiccoloMachiaveli

1 points

5 months ago

could be. this is where their political corruption comes to use such as knowing when raids would happen or getting information. the war would be like one we would never have seen. i honestly dont know what would happen. cartels nowadays are well equipped as well.

/u/CrocodileDundee

1 points

5 months ago

No different than A-Stan or Iraq honestly.

Most of those places are very tribal, so there's always guys on the in-country green team that grew up in the same village as the "terrorist," and will provide intel to them for the equivalent of a loaf of bread and a pair of sandals. Even though the Mexicans don't really fit the exact definition of tribal alliances, the cartels have regional alliances who will do what they can to obfuscate actionable intelligence.

/u/Ravonic_Brothers

1 points

5 months ago

If they work with the Mexican branches they didnt learn the lessons from the ANA

/u/CrocodileDundee

1 points

5 months ago

The US never learns its lesson.

Two history books could have saved the US taxpayers somewhere between $6-$8T for two failed wars.

I guess failed also depends on the POV; Halliburton, CACI, Blackwater==>Academi==>Constellis, etc... faired pretty well.

/u/Ravonic_Brothers

2 points

5 months ago

True.

Although I dont know enough about Halliburton caci etc

War is a racket

/u/Kwik-go

1 points

5 months ago

It's all bullshit politics. 'I said I'd call them terrorists!' and he did. The ONLY action it might let the US take would be to capture a cartel boss. What happens then? 10 more guys fight to take that spot. Military ops on Mexican soil? Never happen. Too much corruption down there. You did see the newest President elected down there oh so luckily had her rivals killed so she could win the election? 37 candidates that never even got the chance to run. Talk about a blood red carpet rolled out for her..

/u/skunkbutt

1 points

5 months ago

we can exepect the price of coke and other products to increase. as of the rest of the post, we'll just have to wait and see. once the precedent is set, we can know what to expect as far as prosecution and the investigation processes.

/u/Exoduz P

1 points

5 months ago

Well this is good for my business! Fucking hondos (Hondurians) got the market spread. Not anymore! I can increase margins if I want for wholesale.

/u/s241ringassembly

1 points

5 months ago

didn't the US have military in Columbia in the 80's to stop the flow of cocaine? howd that work out?

/u/s241ringassembly

1 points

5 months ago

skimming over trump proclamations the only thing that came to mind was the use of branding users/low level dealers in the US as terrorists.

/u/Grindah

1 points

5 months ago

The war on drugs.

That's always went well but good luck I think if you're violent and sadly it happens due to the nature of the products.

I think the whole fent thing is pretty bad but thats the cartels working with china.

/u/Lucidfer

1 points

5 months ago

I think the moment he announced that scores of U.S. Law Enforcement and Military cheered that the handcuffs were finally off and they are looking forward to a good war against Mexican Cartel "Terrorism."

Then I think about "The Cartel" and the violence they regularly use and this makes me think of all the "regular" U.S. violence of recent years (school shootings and so on) that are not Cartel connected.

And after that I think, "Holy Shit, if the FedGov really does go after these guys hard; there will be serious violence in the streets because of it."

Finally, I think that street violence which was precipitated by this announcement, will be used as The Excuse to further "Increase Security" in the U.S. with Mass Surveillance and so on.

/u/SacredHagiophobia P

1 points

5 months ago

First off mexico would never agree to let US military force special force whatever forces come into their country. The narcoculture is so deeply inbedded into the mexican culture that the special operations units wouldnt stand a chance they arent bulletproof. Now if it was full military on military yeah US wipe it up with mexico but just sending in seals and special units to take on the cartel is no buneo. You forget so many mexican special forces switched sidees years ago and ended up working for the cartels training them, killing for them. Loz zetas cartel alone was literally started by GAFES a special operations unit in the mexican amry that later over 30 of its members defected and sytarted the infamous los zetas all its founding fathers having been trained by US SPECIAL FORCES OPERATORS..

/u/DrCola111

0 points

5 months ago

It shouldnt bring coke prices up.. if it did then prices would be up already, factored in. If I can raise my prices tho because other dealers do, or other dealers out and I get old clients hitting me up for blow then I'd do it, fuck it. Gotta make money, been down on my luck lately., the trap been dead.