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UPDATE METHKING SCAM : AbacusMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

So its 10 Days after i stupidly agreed to an off market deal with METHKING and sent $3500. Abacus admin have done nothing to assist so far. Out of desperation in not losing all my money i have pleaded with METHKING to at least send me half of what i paid for. After agreeing to do this, still nothing sent and he has now asked for more money for postage. This guy has no shame its incredible. Not holding my breath though hoping he has a heart and comes through with something. Will keep updated...
/u/KangarooKicks Mod - Abacus
2 points
2 years ago
This case is closed. Normally we do not post market situations on subdread because we believe privacy is very important, but since buyer has make everything public by themselves attracting the attention of many users, we will proceed to finalize the situation and also taking the chance to leave a warning to all buyers and vendors so we avoid these kind of situations.

OzmosisAUS buyer with an estimated 30 transactions on their account opened a ticket claiming they were scammed by METHKING through telegram for the amount of $3500

Abacus support replied the same day accepting the situation was crazy and asking permission to read the conversation in the market since we cannot access their conversation without their permission. OzmosisAUS accepted.

After studying the case for several days, this is our resolution: We verified METHKING gave out their telegram contact. But there was not any other proof pointing that there was a deal for the amount of $3500. We still insisted METHKING to please ship their order if there was really an order and to please act as a good vendor but they insisted there was not such an order and it was some kind of promotion not a real order.

We have DOUBLE-STRIKE METHKING for providing telegram. One more strike that's it. they were notified.

Conclusion:

There is a big banner on messaging page warning you as buyer to don't accept direct deals.

There is a big banner on messaging page warning you as vendor to don't offer direct contact or to try to fe early or similar actions.

If you break rules, do not expect to be helped. You want to break rules, and later blame others? That's ok, but it is what it is.

And finally:

We want to remind everyone we cannot ban vendors or buyers because of any action they have done outside the market. Because If we accept as proof any telegram conversation or anything that we cannot really verify ourselves, we will just open the door to the beginning of lot of FUD and creation of accounts creating fake situations and reports just to ban competitors and to ruin other people businesses.

This is darknet, Escrow does exist for a reason and rules as well.
/u/throwawayfiend
1 points
2 years ago*
IF he messaged you on abacus asking you to contact him on telegram then report him on the market and here to admins for direct deals.

your $3500 is a very expensive lesson to learn. suggest not making the same mistake again. consider your money burnt and move on. abacus wont do anything about some telegram messages. its not a transaction on their market, why would they care? they would only care if he was promoting direct deals and broke market rules
/u/OzmosisAUS 📢
1 points
2 years ago
100 % I never have done direct deals before. METHKING convinced me via Abacus to deal direct after i enquired about making a purchase (Through Abacus)
Thats exactly what he was doing. Promoting Deals off Abacus using Abacus messenger. Im an idiot for doing this and i dont blame Abacus at all, Its not a good thing to have scammers like this guy on Abacus, im not the only person he has ripped off and im sure i wont be the last. I realise Abacus dont need headached like this, lesson learned any ways
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
Would be nice to make a post here and in /d/DarkNetAustralia and explain the situation and resolution.

Thank you
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
how has it been resolved? not really clear here besides the OP taking responsibility for doing a DD. has methking been found to request DD's via the market and been sanctioned?
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
Market is aware, I am not sure of any actions being taken.
Being resolved is awareness. Not to DD and to report vendor and the Market will make their step, case by case.

-EDIT- And not to put a Market on blast because they did a DD and lost money.

Listen, on Abacus markets we care for our users, but you are not an user of Abacus market, you never did any deal on Abacus Market, you just used Abacus market as a messaging application to agree with someone to do a direct deal.

You are here saying market does not respond you as if market owes you a response, did you use Abacus services at first place?

If you lost 3500 with someone on whatsapp telegram whatever is not Abacus fault and you should not pay your frustration with the market, just open posts overall blaming the vendor and whatever you want but leave the market alone.

Still you are lucky Abacus mods are good heart and they are there replying to you since the beginning and they are investigating the issue and trying to fix it for you. But being honest, Abacus does not have to invest their time on off deals because is not fair for real customers.
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
not sure this is really the market on blast as such. seems the bigger issue was the lack of response. whether or not the OP was right or wrong.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
Should the user be banned for breaking the rules of the Market?
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
if that's in your terms, sure.
i have no idea if it is personally... i just know the vendors aren't allowed obvs.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
Do you know of any markets that allow off site sales and or responsible for them? One person has caused hours of work, because they decided to break the rules.
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
no.. not sure that they wouldn't investigate the vendor based on that though. isn't that something you'd want to stop?

not trying to advocate for OP here, but wanting to understand why the hours of work is an issue(and doubt it's much more than 1 or 2 in reality to check the details and inform the market - something the OP did allegedly anyhow).

frankly if the market responded to the first time it was reported on market by OP - it wouldn't require OP to post here and subsequently have you investigate. i'd be blaming market support for that myself.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
If they would have reported vendor vs trying to save money and bypass market fees, the vendor would have been looked at and the user would not have lost any coin.
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
true. so you dont investigate because the OP did the wrong thing?

perhaps the OP didn't know better wheras the vendor surely does?

come on man, this is reaching.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
I said the Vendor is being looked at now.
Now that it has been reported as it should have been when they tried to tell the buyer to contact them off market.
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
to be fair.. sounds like the OP is new to the DN's and didn't realise.

but fuck the cunt for not following process eh.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
Thats why the DN is not for kids or people that do not know how to use Markets and the risk of DDs.

And now they know.

/d/DarknetMarketsNoobs

-EDIT-
Not being a dick.....but common sense and a DD for 3500? Really?
/u/OzmosisAUS 📢
1 points
2 years ago
If you guys dont do anything about it, i guess its a good indication on how much you care about the quality of vendors on your market and using Abacus as a shield and gateway to Manipulate and Scam. I was aware that Vendors were forbidden to chase off market deals ? and i was not the one initiating an off market deal. Ridiculous that im the one being written off here not your piece of shit vendor. Known for multiple scams.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago
Does not sound that new to the game

Appreciate the response. I always use Abacus, have made over 30 x purchases though was stupid enough to be convinced by METHKING to go through telegram. It was against my better judgement though he appeared to have a decent trust rating. I understand its not in any way the fault of Abacus, im an idiot though i wasnt getting much of a response to the ticket i raised, i know you advise to report vendors that encourage this so reported it. I really appreciate the follow up on my ticket. Hopefully he does the right thing and fixes it. This ill be the last time i do business off market. Thanks again
/u/dontlaugh
1 points
2 years ago
well.. lets just say naive. naive enough to fall for something that sounds stupid to you and i.
/u/OzmosisAUS 📢
1 points
2 years ago
Hi Admin, No im not exactly new to the game and take full responsibility for the consequences of all of this. Common sense would tell you not to do a deal worth $3500 off market for sure and its embarassing i was stupid enough to do it however this guy is an experienced scammer. He had sent a sample for me to try, baited me then had apparent reasons to go direct. Its an expensive lesson though these bad actors need to be removed. This guy has scammed many others and will continue to do so using Abacus as credibility. Im not after sympathy, im an idiot though people should know how this guy operates.
/u/OzmosisAUS 📢
1 points
2 years ago
Hi Mate, im not blaming Abacus at all. It was a stupid mistake on my part going off market and it wasnt because i wanted to save money in any way at all. METHKING used abacus as credibility and manipulated me to going off market and i didnt really think much of it. It was the first time i have ever gone off market (I have over 30 Purchases on Abacus) due to network down time etc. he said it was easier to just make this deal direct. He appeared to have a decent trust score and a history of operating on Abacus so i thought it would be fine and Abacus wouldnt allow someone like this on the market. I only have myself to blame though i think its important that this guy cant continue to operate like this. Im not the only one he has scammed like this, i have had multiple messages from people with similar stories.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
2 years ago*
The Abacus Market Team respects the privacy of users and do not intercept into users personal messages, if they decide to go to a direct deal we can not do anything to prove it. Markets are to protect users on escrow deals, not to be reading personal messages.

Never accept direct deals outside Abacus Market. You will likely end up losing your money. Report through ticket any vendor asking you to continue the transaction through wickr or any other type of external method. If a vendor who does not have FE rights ask you to FE before receiving your product, report them too, probably they want to scam you. 
Listen, on Abacus markets we care for our users, but you are not an user of Abacus market, you never did any deal on Abacus Market, you just used Abacus market as a messaging application to agree with someone to do a direct deal.

You are here saying market does not respond you as if market owes you a response, did you use Abacus services at first place?

If you lost 3500 with someone on whatsapp telegram whatever is not Abacus fault and you should not pay your frustration with the market, just open posts overall blaming the vendor and whatever you want but leave the market alone.

Still you are lucky Abacus mods are good heart and they are there replying to you since the beginning and they are investigating the issue and trying to fix it for you. But being honest, Abacus does not have to invest their time on off deals because is not fair for real customers.
/u/OzmosisAUS 📢
2 points
2 years ago
Appreciate the response. I always use Abacus, have made over 30 x purchases though was stupid enough to be convinced by METHKING to go through telegram. It was against my better judgement though he appeared to have a decent trust rating. I understand its not in any way the fault of Abacus, im an idiot though i wasnt getting much of a response to the ticket i raised, i know you advise to report vendors that encourage this so reported it. I really appreciate the follow up on my ticket. Hopefully he does the right thing and fixes it. This ill be the last time i do business off market. Thanks again