does anyone here even know what real meth is cos i swear so many ppl on this sub smoke n iso and think its the shit cos of how it mimicks meth because they havent ACTUALLY tried the real OG stuff before. if it doesnt crackback STRAIGHT AWAY its bunk n i noticed alot of meth heads ALWAYS LIE and say their stuffs good and doesnt turn brown at all etc. yet they send me photos and i can tell its trash. such a weird annoying way to lie jus b honest and say ur meth makes u comedown and not have an overwhelming dry mouth cos trust me 99 percent of ppl havent tried the real thing n im jus stating facts this isnt up for debate
I agree with this person. I am pissed that RedDoor is on this list so hyped up, they sent me an order of complete bullshit and I'm not alone. Of course, we all ordered around the same time, when you guys posted how great they were. Can you at least take them off now, that it's clear they're NOT sending out good, consistent product?
CountTrapula, similarly, I bought based off the hype... it got me high but I'm fairly sure it was not meth.
OGServices, sure looked/burned/etc. the most like meth out of all these, but it didn't get me high.
exactly bro this person doing this review probably hasnt smoked real meth in his whole life the real shit cracks back STRAIGHT AWAY and looks like feathers one incy wincy puff and u wont even wantto think about the adrenaline from a second one.i guess we gotta face fact: meth is shit everywhere );
I was browsing through the history of posts and saw count actually posted a lab result. And then you went on to say it gave you a better buzz.
Im not trying to fuck with your day and ill sound crazy here. But meth, i call it a deamon It is. You need to accept that you want this way of life to be spun out and give yourself whole hearted to it, Your life will become like mine, a struggle, pain it will lead to places that are dark. But thats what we give up to experience that rush. Only other path is sobriety. Gotta choose man, if you can do both man my hats off to ya
All i got to say if people keep saying someone has gotten junk from a vendor most likley they are telling the truth about it. And vendors do send junk out mixed with good stuff no matter how good the reviews may be. Every vendor will send customers junk a few times just because they know they can get away with it. For vendors to claim that a customer did not get junk, its them.trying to protect thier rep on the markets. And for FE TO BE allowed is such crap because vendors will take advantage of that at some point and if they get banned from one market they will go to another market. Ive seen couple vendors do that in the past and right now.
yes and ppl think they get gud shit cos they havent had real meth before so they think the retarded shit that takes ages to set is the good stuff if it gets them even somewhat a resemblance to a meth high when in reality the good shit is too much to handle from even a small puff
I don't agree with many of the reviews here, but I will keep my comments to the vendors I vouch for 100%.
Snowpaxx has some of the best gear period on the dnms. Burns clean all the way until its gone and doesn't ever turn brown, which is VERY rare. Don't just take my word for, search on Dread and other forums and see what others say.
Ephed has top notch gear also, both his dextro and racemic. Personally I think his racemic is one of the best values on the dnms. There are a few people who have posted negative reviews on here, but the majority have had a great experience. I've been a customer for 2 years and never had an issue.
Also, for those of you who haven't tried ephderine made dextro before, the high is probably not what you are expecting. It is not a speedy spun out of your mind type of high, it is mellow, euphoric and your brain remains clear. You can concentrate because it won't make you scatterbrained. In a sense its kind of like an adderall high with a lot more euphoria. All the "speedy" type side effects you are used to come from the levo (and the cutting agents) that's present in racemic ice.
lol who's the loser who has nothing better to do than to troll anonymously. i'd hate life too if i was a loser like you living in your momma's basement. enjoy your shitty life.
duckdopego* is the vendor's name. but yes they're great as is count trapula. i'd add safeway to that list & for the non-US peeps snowpaxx/icegod & partyfaves/321snort also have good shit shipped worldwide
Okay so I am really disappointed lately and I am hoping that I can place an order with Open Table today and it's good. I am dying to try ephed but I am ordering for a few ppl together and that size sample isn't sharable and we just had like 3 orders of complete trash and funds are tight. Since the Cowardly Dog isn't around I have tried a few vendors and they have all been great on some aspects (shipping) but the most important one, quality, not so much:
Red Door: 48 hours t2D, quality 1.5/10- what do I even do with this shit now?
Count Trapula: Fast but don't remember exactly how fast, quality 3/10- we were sad since I got him from this list and my hopes were so high, but I know everyone gets a bad batch sometimes- I wrote him today so we'll see if he is willing to rectify or is written off
UrLocalPlug: Ooof Fast shipping but quality 2.5/10 (that being said, I have not washed it, and it is speedy but it a bad way, anxious speedy and no euphoria... I have set it aside and am hoping washing will help but I am hesitant since I haven't ever done that.) I released his funds today but am too irritated to leave a review and a little hopeful that a wash will make it useable and Ill be feeling different- i do not like to leave bad reviews! The taste gave me flashbacks to my dad lighting the grill- the fluid he put on the coals- unpleasant, not something I ever wanted to drink
OG: Last order was a couple months ago and it was not great at the time but superior to what came in recently and I will probably rotate to him again since everyone is saying he's back on point. In the past he's always been very reliable and his poor quality was still 5-6/10. Now that I don't have anything besides 2s, 3s, 4s, sounds really good!
Thanks to the guys who put this list together, it's really nice to at least have a place to see what's going on. When Count's stuff came in I thought I must be trippin since it was highly recommended and I was releived to see it's not me, other people had issues. I hope this info helps people! I know it helped me and I'm very grateful for people being honest, it's hard to be honest in reviews for obvious reasons. You guys are appreciated!
Hey GE!! Thanks for taking the time to write out your reviews it helps the community as a whole
When it comes to dope people are going to have a core set of this is what i like then you can have an entirely different set of core likes with a different group
I started smoking with the lemon drop era, that was basically a high quality meth going around that when you smoked it tasted to me like pine sol and lemon drops. Absolutely loved it. Good mix of euphoria and staying up
Have had "exotic" forms of meth ill let you figure that out - but their shit was so clean i couldnt even taste it if i held a blowtorch to it for 14hrs. It was akin to inhaling a cloud and exhaling a volcano..the high was very good and just overall friendly, lacked some of the more hectic traits some of us like but very good
you will probably think im sick, but i loved the super meth days on the markets around 2018 or 2019. Absolutely all gas no breaks, dick hard 24-7, mood was meh terrible and paranoid and could stay up for 15 days LITERALLY. But i loved it
So given that; i see your preferences - I love to be tweaky af.Love the energy etc. I did have euphoria with UP on it , milder side, but talkies yup, Anxiety of course it and quality is great with the price curve on it. Give it a wash and see what you think.
For your what youre looking for try open table as it seems you have. Count has never done me wrong. The batch and resell system is the game and if a bad
one sips through they more than care about their rep and customers to fix it. As of last week well 2 weeks approaching their shit was really good and ive been seeing good reviews again
thank you for the response and have a great weekend seeing \
Hi! Thanks for all your work on this! You make a really good point that I didn't consider: some people are looking for the thing I didn't like.
Can you ELI5?: "Have had "exotic" forms of meth ill let you figure that out - but their shit was so clean i couldnt even taste it if i held a blowtorch..." If you let me figure it I I don't know if I ever will! But I'm so curious, what's the exotic? Sounds like it's my thing and I should look for this elusive exotic... if I knew what is was...
I just started doing this drug about a year ago and never ever thought I would- I has always been an opiate lover and in my area there just isn't much meth. Ive been sober from opiates since i did a couple years of state sponsored vacay and I swear I never got my energy or motivation back and was SO FUCKING TIRED even 3 years clean from Heroin. Still, do not love the tweaky shit and paranoia- which leads me to something else I wanted to mention and maybe ask about if anyone has any imput: initially when I was with Krybaby, OG, and I'm drawing a blank on the others, the CDog, I became grossed out by things and afraid of spiders to a degree that makes adulting difficult. My more recent orders seem to have caused the crazy to multiply 10x even though I am aware it's irrational. Being new to this drug (relative to most people here and the few IRL I know do it) I'm curious if this is a normal progression or if it means i need to wash my shit or means something else or nothing at all- any thoughts? I really want to find a way to cut the crazy.
My mood has become pretty terrible too but I don't have a dick so that metric isn't applicable (and drink a LOT of kratom so that I'm not as horny as I would and could be- especially if my boyfriend is being a wanker, well, he's like always wanking but I meant being a jerk. He likes the tweeky shit and talks about staying up insane long times in the good old days but he's been kinda down and low energy these past 3 orders too).
So I'm going to wash the Plug and OT marked shipped today and I only ordered it this morning so that's great, even better if he really shipped it! I haven't ever washed any drug before so it's going to take me time to read up on it. I'm debating wheather to use the 100% acetone on hand or order anhydrous acetone- anyone know if it's essential to get the anhydrous?
aiight /u/relaxandchill I hope you can tell me more about the exotic! Talk later :)
exotic = asian meth was good
this drug will only make all that worse. You probably dont want to hear this, but it isn't a friendly drug. I hope your road leads to good places. We
all are put to heel eventually by this
I would remove /u/UrLocalPlug from this list. I just got my order in and its straight trash. Almost entirely non reactive in bleach, takes longer than 10 secs to crack back, and has a horrible taste to it. Have not washed it yet, but fairly certain even washing it will not improve things much. Really was looking forward to getting my order in, but this is pure trash.
Really unfortunate that you felt the need to bash us even after we offered to rectify the situation. We offered a refund and just let the buyer know we can't accept future orders from them if thats the case. We believe this is more than fair as this is one of the few negative reviews out of many positive ones.
/u/UrLocalPlug all I stated on here was how the gear reacted when I tested it. Yes, you did rectify the situation by refunding my order and greatly appreciate it but lets not forget this was a situation you created. If the gear I had received had been the same as what you had posted on the market for sale there never would of been no situation needing rectifying. I will at least applaud the fact that you still fixed the situation before I had to dispute the order and go thru that whole process to rectify the situation so thank ya at least for that.
I'd add Safeway as well, and can also vouch for OG. Both recent batches from both have been pretty damn good. And the former, my god, I don't know HOW they ship so fast. Amazon, who holds a record of 4 hours, is the only thing that has beaten them where I am at. I used to smoke when I was younger, but these days I just do the oral route, occasionally insufflation, so YMMV.
Duckdopego was pretty good when I tried it (a few years back), I was more impressed with waltcranston's stuff at the time.
I also liked TopnotchUSA. It's been a while but it was certainly a different flavor (from Europe?) about the same quality as any other on this list. But I like the whole agar concept. Lost track of them after Alphabay(?) exit scammed and they seemed overwhelmed with orders.
It might be just as helpful to potential buyers (me) to know where the shipping labels were created on received packages.
I don't want to order something from a vendor with "average 3 day arrival" only to find out he's on the east Coast and I'm on the west coast and it's going to take 6 days min.
Could have avoided this by ordering from a west coaster, even one with a slower average ship time. Can't be too much of an opsec risk to include this info in the reviews, since anyone ordering is going to get the labels anyway.
Yeah bro, glad to provide input, and get opinions on it. I'm realizing after my last batch of orders that this info wouldn't be as helpful as I had imagined it would be. Multiple orders from multiple vendors on the trusted list, to multiple drops in the same state: the one shipped farthest from me arrived the fastest, 4dt2d, and the shipping label created in the state closest to me will arrive 7dt2d best case scenario lol. my hypothesis is proving itself wrong each passing day lol.
Recently had my first dealings with /u/urlocalplug . Comms were excellent, and t2d was completely acceptable.
One product was missing from the shipment upon arrival.
When I informed him of this he corrected the misshap as soon as possible, plus some.
Of his products we tested (MA and Addys), they were both great quality. Especially at those price-points.
SO /u/happy2gether2 's pack (2g of Golden oldie and 1g of ket) finally landed. Still waiting on /u/TheHatter 's stuff to arrive. Praying it does but I think this is the first batch of "real" ephedrine based meth that I've ever gotten. Never have I experienced this insane euphoria. I Immediately placed another order for as much as I could afford. Shit has every quality that you guys all speak of. I almost don't want to leave this reveiew bc he seems to be a one man show with maybe a few helpers (could be wrong about that). but this is always what I Thought MA was supposed to feel like. Back in 2005 I was in rehab in Prescott, AR and this is why anyone from out there was in the rehab. Now I'm not a meth conisseur by any means but fuck this shit is awesome. Hats off to the cook/chemist who made this possible. But it did just arrive in a regular envelope as flat as possible and crushed into fine powder (which is what I do woth it anyway). Bottom line is this shit is worth every penny x10. plus both bags weighed over by at least .1-.2 points. If you can risk the money and handle the wait I wouldn't spend my money anywhere else. His envelope was shipped from Amsterdam not Germany tho but it did make it. So he did something righ but I imagine GE would be safer.
Also I wanted to add this analysis to my business partner and former vendor on here who is also a chemist (way beyond my skill even) comparing ephed's product to snowpaxx's gear. I already shared this with /u/ephed but not /u/snowpaxx/ but i found it very interesting...
My close friend (formerly a vendor on here) and also a chemist looked at ur product along with snowpaxx's with a polarimeter and this is what he had to say:
to be fair i didn't realize that (–)-ephed was the isomer that reduces to dextrometh but it makes sense now that i see the structures as to why even a little bit of impurity would greatly impact the optical purity. if the m.p.'s [melting points] come out and the ephed is close to the m.p. of pure MA HCl than that would confirm my theory, and it might actually be more pure, it's just that the component of the impurity that's working against the value obtained is "potent" (since again (–)-ephed is like -34° levorotary), so it could be that both are around 95% pure, just the ephed stuff is tained with a chiral impurity that's turning the light in the opposite direction so the effect is magnified
however i'm confident these values are correct as received, so there is absolutely some impurity in the ephed and i will confirm that with a melting point test to see if it's significant or not
the snowpaxx stuff was probably made via the usual P2P reductive amination and resolved with tartaric acid, so any impurity would be a little bit of levometh which impacts the observed rotation a lot less than (-) ephed would
these bottles contain the washes used to get everything out of the polarimeter tube as well but i'll evaporate them over the course of a week or so, but these values are my final report so to speak. i would estimate the ephedrine based stuff [ephed] to be 80% optically pure and the snowpaxx stuff to be 95-99% optically pure. haven't tested melting points but i will."
He had to go out of town so never received the m.p.'s.
dude that's crazy......The first time I ever fucked with tina was in Prescott in 2005. Coming from the EC I had only shot dope and smoked crack. But I found a homeless dude named Del and he sold me a bag and a clean rig for 20 bucks. As we parted I turned back and asked " how much should I do?" "All of it , he replied. MacDonalds bathroom Sheldon st. Hit it and BOOOOOM I couldn't catch my breath . Anyway I guess they call that "dragon's breath". Crazy Prescott rehab brothers.
Having this list was a great idea, but I think maybe there's not enough vendors with any kind of consistency of batches between products to actually make it work right now.
Whatever most of them have done to earn your guys approval, does not translate into being trustworthy for the rank-and-file to order from.
There's precious little meth on the DNM right now.
And you can go ahead and ask the vendors what they have done for my approval> most of them dont even know who i am. They havent done anything except send me real dope or if had an issue they worked to come to a resolve that was good for both of us. Dont blame the vendor,blame me then for not knowing what real meth is :) i can tell you that im sorry we obviously have differences on what we think is real or not. is it cut yes to some degree is it real ya its real meth
That may be the issue. It's not uncommon that people are satisfied with the very low quality meth. Usually smokers that have started in the last few years. And there aren't as many old-heads around anymore either, to teach the young. Perhaps because of fentanyl (not in the meth, but most people do both and everyone that does heroin is dying, where I live.)
Ya ive been smoking for over 3 decades and remember the ritual of having an older head buy me my first piz and then teaching me how to turn, turn , angle. It took years to master. its a ritual imo , and must be thought of as such
Last time i checked "Ephed" had FIRE gear in the US.
Snowpaxx/ICEGOD and Flavourstop are also top tier canadian vendors that ship worldwide if i remember correctly. Their stealth is above and beyond anything i've seen before.
That was not out of my mouth directly, simply a highly trained chemist friend of mine and him using a polarimeter (whose results are questionable for a number of reasons) to analyze both his and epheds stuff. Melting point was never checked. Also its hard to say as international orders are all powdered and that affects the ability to say if its racemic or not. I do know it was very good either way. I guess Im trying to say to take his word as gospel without using NMR spectroscopy would be foolish and ill advised. I kind of regret posting those results now tbh. Unless I know something to be 100% without a doubt true best to keep my mouth shut.
Aww don't feel left out, I am still going to try your shit someday and compare it, since i have often heard our shit get compared to one another.
And as for markets you can find me on(it's quite a list)
Archetyp, Abacus, Cypher, TorZon, DarkMatter, SuperMarket, MGM, and a couple of other smaller ones, most recently RetroMarket (although I am on there as dopeduckgo, rather than duckdopego. (long story)
I remember quite awhile ago you were tossing around the idea of going international... you certainly have a handle on your stealth game, the last time I checked...
People request international shipments from me all the time, but i don't do them. i used to on a couple instances, tell them that premium vendor duckdopego MIGHT be shipping intl, and if so, probably small orders only, but I stopped saying that because I really had no idea, hadn't heard from you in awhile, and didn't want to misdirect people if that isn't your thing.
new zealand, in particular, seems pretty starved lately, based on where my requests come from.
Yeah, I remember that. There was a quite a french following for a while. But I got spooked from doing it, even though my packs landed like 95% of the time. Even in Australia. Just got to be a a little too overwhelming, if I am being honest. I had one die hard French guy fan, actually haven't heard from him in like a year, or more... I wonder what happened to him. Appreciate the shout outs either way.
I know your gear as of drugula? but that was a bit ago. Im trying to keep the list current buys i didnt want to relay my experience as something from a while ago. I will say your customer service was topnotch and the glass was clean, very clean. It was your potent glass; and I didn;t get very spun from that batch. It smoked VERY clean and honestly was just that; clean. I paid for the more potent stay awake all night day because well ; sleep is overrated :) and unfortunately i didnt get that experience of 72 hrs dismantling and re assembling things
I will add you to the list due to the reputation you have. If there is any objection im sure the moderators and those who disagree can sort it out and it
will go from there. I had planned already to take the dive and order from you next round,but i am just a avg joe making enough to buy meth and food when and if needed, maybe pay the rent and utilities; only if i have glass though to function at work lol
I object. Ephed's stuff is total crap - no dopamine release. Whatever he's peddling, it's not d-meth....not even close and it's obvious. Dont know how he got this reputation as being a legit vendor. He totally screwed me out of $100. Product didnt do shit.
now, now, we've been through this. it's not polite for you to say these things without also mentioning that you are completely insatiable, and that EVERY vendor you have ordered from in recent history has sent you fake meth that was total crap.
tell them the WHOLE truth so you don't look like the same kind of asshole that way.
That’s true for me. I’ve gone through every single vendor on nexus that has a significant number of reviews (more than 5 recent reviews) and every single one of them sells bullshit that is 80% adulterants and they all got five star ratings for it.
I’ve never ordered from you though. Your only rating the last time I checked was from a guy claiming he went to sleep 15 minutes after doing a gram he bought from you.
i have 4 other people in my inbox saying otherwise and i also have 1 other saying no as well
I am currently in the midst of trying to add another vendor and will drop the review this week.
Until i try ephed again I can't give my op on it one way or another. Im hoping a moderator or more senior member can weigh in. I know batches
come and go and like I said the glass i got from him wasn't shit it wasn't what I was hoping for, But I would stop short in saying that he fucked me over or stole from me.
Next chance that comes around I will try them again or if I see a chain reaction of comments saying no way to them on the list then that will be
a removal cause i feel. So far its leaning more in their favor, Im hoping winterhill13 can help me with this portion, unclear on their powers of editing and adding to etc, I just want people to have reliable places to spend xmr and i need at least a couple of rounds to determine that because we all know whats fire one second can turn into a what the fuck the next
So I sent a message and I want everyone else to see. I am all for a reliable vendor list. I am not going to delete comments unless they are just fucking stupid or have issues with opsec.
We just have to be careful because vendors could make babybottle accounts and just try to get random ass vendors on the list. Besides that I am all for the idea and lets get it moving!
I remember the whole agora scene - saw what that de evolved too. i appreciate your time and hearing me out. Any updates ill comms through the top. Feel free to edit/agree/disagree however you see
fit, Thank you again
I agree that Ephed belongs on this list. I have been ordering from him since AB days and he is consistent with clean gear. His dextro and racemic are legit fire.
Snowpaxx brings the clean Canadian fire and his stealth is the best i've seen. only vendor i trust for international shipments. takes about 2 weeks to usa so plan accordingly.
i won't even bother messing with any other vendors now. these are my top 2 vendors and go tos.
I've ordered 3x from ephed. First I tried his D-Meth which was very good. Next time I ordered an OZ or Racemic ands it was VERY good...I liked it more thn the d-meth. So last order i got another oz ofm racemic and it was garbage...I was very dissappoiunted because ther racemic the previous order was straight FIRE. Dont know if I/ll stick w ephed or try someone new..
I wish that all my customers would know my ways well enough by their 3rd order, to know that I want them to make a 4th order someday, so if they are ever disappointed with what they get from me, I would really like them to talk to me about it...
if I end up with a bad batch, on rare occasion, I might not even be aware of it until I have started to send it out... so your feedback is appreciated for at least 2 reasons. if i am accidentally sending bunk product, i need to know asap, to minimize the impact, and on an individual level, i don't get the chance to make it right, and maintain my quality standard, unless i am made aware of a problem.
I am in the process of making order #4...When i say it was garbage that was a little misleading, and for that I'm sorry.
Its better than run of the mill street dope, but compared the the previous oz of racemic the time before, again im spoiled by that first oz - it was not up to par. Sorry I wasnt able to leave a review...i'll be putting in an order on archetype very soon brother.
if you mention it with the address on your order, so that i know who i am talking to, then i will throw a couple bonus grams in there to help me sleep at night cuz if i put them in my pipe instead, i might stay up later than i really should...
And baits and switch after after the first gram and he also doxxes each customer before the first sale,and decides whether or not to do a bait and switch with msm instead of his meth when ordering weight like I did. I still have it because it doesn't get you high. All 7 grams of it for 160 dollars
lmao I'm rolling dude.. This guy is literally willing to just go scorched earth on you all over wanting a re-ship and he's proven it already with his other posts "I'll be willing to say nothing but positive things for a re-ship"... dude is a pscychopath and he's burned his bridge a long time ago. Hope the mods catch on to what he's doing and stop allowing him to just wreak havoc on vendors like this.
I vouch for Ephed and I've had nothing but good experiences with him for over a year.
I've looked, at the crystals under a high-powered . digital microscope and they are all exactly the same shape,m transparency, hardness,warree dissolution rate(very slow) exactly like powdered msm from an Amazon msm bottle I've bought and looked at under the digital microscope too.
I am aware of peanut butter meth from the 90s, and crap powder shit from the street. Never taken that garbage myself, but knew people that did.
I have only ordered from a few top vendors when I started using and they have never let me down. Keep in mind I am probably not in the same country as you.
some of that powdery peanut butter was sooooo much more potent than virtually anything out there today... after a few days with that in your system, it would turn your armpits sour
that stuff was pretty much the original biker crank/bathtub crank. back then, crystal methedrine hcl was only found in select pharmacies...
i say that, yet the first meth iever tried was crystal. back then "oldschool" meant peanut butter. and if you could get it on occasion, you'd drop what you're doing to go make it happen...
or at least i would...
it's sad that it's completely become a thing of the past
http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/post/ba0a433a9df82cc6c3a3 ++ full post since meth sub dread wont let me post on here.
I HAVE EVEN BETTER NEWS. /u/sovereignty marked my order shipped yesterday now he says
hey sorry for the late reply.
so for future reference please pgp us your shipping info and ship date. its makes it a lot easier to get you the update youre requesting.
did the order happen to arrive or finalize? we combed through our shipped list and couldnt find your name.
Sovereignty
14. Apr 2024
happy2gether2 from arche market should be up there as well.
Only meth vendors I would use after trying so many different ones would be him and Snowpaxx.
I'm located in EU btw.
Snowpaxx never lets down and happy2gether2 his batches are all good but the goldie batch beats all.
Bad experience with FlavourStop for me. But Snowpaxx always quality and no problems whatsoever even for overseas shipping. Has always arrived apart from one time but then I got a full reship.
But as EU vendor, happy2gether2 definately deserves to be up the list as well.
Heard very good things from a member. Also I saw on their ratings that someone had a problem with comms. I have not had that experience yet, they have been more than responsive in a couple of questions i had. +5
so far. I will update this week(end)
concur on your recommendation
Urplug as well- very tweaky makes you want to talk all day and then fuck and then talk while fucking :) will update over weekend
i had ordered from Count Trapula most recently. Picked up an oz about a month ago. There was a couple shards in there that were ok but the rest were the big crumbly shards and they didnt do much but make me sick. Also tested positive for fentanyl and I used an entire pack of strips plus piss tested myself. Proper dilution etc. Wont be ordering again from him. I ended up leaving good review unfortunately because the first toke I took I actually felt but that was it.
In the past I have had decent product from TopNotchUSA; JoyInc; WhiteRepublic. Ephed first order was decent, second was meh, I dont believe this is pure d meth. It Would be optically active when viewed through polarized lense when dissolved in solution. Its not.
Wontons was complete bunk crap; Boston george had that sweaty asshole smelling junk that when burned was sickly sweet (msm?) and he shorted me a whole order. . Theres a whole lot whatever is going around that mimics meth in reagent testing and looks like it but doesnt do shit even with no tolerance. N ISO? Who the fuck knows, whatever it is im sick of it and it doesnt wash out.
The market is ripe for someone with some decent product to take over. I believe there multiple vendors that are part of the same outfit selling the same stuff as alot of the bunk I get comes from the same area and has similar packaging and Fake reviews must be rampant because there is no way people are giving positive reviews on the crap I have received form 75% of vendors so far.
"Ephed first order was decent, second was meh, I dont believe this is pure d meth. It Would be optically active when viewed through polarized lense when dissolved in solution. Its not. "
HOLD UP... when and where did you have access to a polarimeter, which you knew how to use correctly, and what was your choice of solvent, volume of solvent, weight of meth tested, and how'd you determine that my dextro had *zero* optical rotation?
I respectfully call BULLSHIT on this!
It's nowhere near as simple as ... putting on a pair of polarized sunglasses and looking at some saturated solvent in a glass flask.
/u/Bandit220 lol normally I would remove this comment.
If you have shitty vendors we post them on the other thread. Not this one. This is only for vendors who we have tried in the past week who have good shit. Were trying to keep a list of reliable vendors in the current moment so no one gets scammed.
However I dont like fent claims unless you have backed them up with tests. I think it would be sketchy of me to delete your post now so I am going to leave it up. But if you dont have proof of fent in meth which 90% doesnt happen dont say it without proof.
I will chime in as well. I think fent is a major major issue; and no one wants that in our community. That is a very bold claim. Before sending out to drugs data can you show us a sample with meta removed of the + tests and specimen of ct? If need be it can be sent to drugsdata and then we will know from there.
whiterepublic - shit was ok not worth the price at all. Wasn't bunk though
Topnotch - didnt have your experience. Was good but that was a long time ago
JoyInc - same as WR
wonton - have yet to try. They dont have alot of reviews on here ?? so will see if we can get that moving
Ephed. I havent had a bad experience with them, didnt have one that i could see myself reguarly affording or as a daily driver due to cost. Im not to heavy in the pockets. I have never recieved a not meth product from them
I found the rest of what you said about the reselling true. Theyre multiple vendors with either shill accnts or the same dealer they get the shit and market it differently. This has been going on since SR. It even happens with other drugs than our community, It happens on the streets as well. A big supplier hands off to a a smaller dude who distributes it to smaller dudes so on and so forth, Somewhere in the process it gets fucked up or if the original drop was garbage that would make the pool unclean for a while.
Thank you for the feedback. Lets keep an eye on the fent part of it
Most all comes from the sinaloa cartel, mass produced in Tijuana. Everybody knows this...
All the vendors who get it from the cartel, essentially carry the same product. Unfortunately they do get a good batch in from time to time (they have to in order to keep us chasing the high)
Hi, Sorry For just now responding, I do not get on the onion at all in between orders. Regarding the positive fent tests; I do have pictures of the them regarding Trapula's meth. And sorry for posting in the incorrect thread.
I did 5 tests and diluted each one more and more each showing fent positive. Im a dumbass and do not have any product left though. I can say I got Opiate like OD symptoms after consuming large quantities in a bong in short order, such as becoming ill and vomiting(fent is the only opiate that has ever done that to me). As well as feeling like complete shit for almost 2 weeks after finishing the product over the course of a month. (dumb I know, but I think I was addicted to it. .) I am familiar with Meth withdrawals and this was nothing like that. This was like I had the flu or something. Just nausea, stomache issues, etc. .
Ephedup, I cannot prove that so I will retract my statement about it not being Dextro. It very well may be. I will say it is better than alot of product on here; but about the same as other "good" stuff ive gotten on Arche, So perhaps others are selling pure dextro too from the cartel which apparently According the DEA , is coming over the border as mostly pure Dextro in a lot of cases; if you trust the DEA lol. I assumed cartel was racemic and therefore I was expecting 2x potency from your product. Seemed in line with the better product ive gotten on Arche. No disrespect meant; just giving my opinion here.
I have more orders coming in from 6 vendors as well so I will post the good ones here, and If any are fucked; I will find the other thread.
I received your pm. Please stay on top of this and thank you for letting us know. Winter will keep it modded as I am just a regular guy and cant get on much either due to work and more smokng ahah
in all seriousness if these results from vendors you are getting are +fent op,,,
anyway to send it into drugsdata for further testing?
Hello. I always test each batch that comes in and I've never had any bag be fent positive from the source I've been with for a while now. I use my own product as well and don't experience these effects. I'm sorry that it sounds like you had a bad time, but I can't think of why it would have been my product's fault. Body chemistry is weird and maybe you just weren't having it. I don't have an explanation for what happened, but I can assure you there's not fent in it. I don't know how yours tested positive and mine didn't (usually run two tests). Feel free to message me and we can discuss your dissatisfaction further if you'd like.
i just posted a review on a new Canadian vendor, Uberddope on Archetyp. this is some of the best gear i've ever had. legit ephedrine made meth with no weird cuts or rc's. my standards are really high, as i normally order ephedrine gear from the well known vendors from US and Canada. reviews have been excellent on the dnm and on dread. i know good reviews don't really mean much, but in this case, the hype is real. the pricing is incredible to begin with and there's a 50% intro bonus. i've ordered twice already (have enough for like 3 months already) but about to order a third before this bonus ends. y'all can thank me later, for real.
I ordered from happy2gether2 and TheHatter. Happy2gether2's Goldie oldie is the best I've had on the darknet. Great euphoria and stimulation. TheHatter has good quality product too. More stimulation than euphoria. I tried his Hong kong meth. It is overpriced but still worth a try. Both are superior to everything else I've tried in the states and Canada.
Man Ephed products have been great IMO. I was planning to pick up more of both his products until I saw he's not on archetyp currently. Ephed is currently at the top of my list bc of quality and IME super professional to work with. Hopefully he's back up soon.
In the meantime, I juust put in an order with DuckDopeGo.. I've heard good things. DDG has been in my top three to try for awhile tbh. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and will post up some feedback if thats helpful.
Ephed's great is great, the eph is more mild but still really strong and sexual without rough body effects. The racemic is great and I prefer due to being more "cleaning meth" than "sex meth" but it still has a great horny and sexual deviant effect. I dont like to hype him up to much because I will be very sad if he gets more orders than can be handled! So nevermind forget I told you it is good shit!
Working with Winter to clean the list up. Ill be honest not super ballin so impossible to keep up the vendors for me on this extent. I will say that theyre a few vendors that i could always count on if shit was a whack batch
In no particular order of good to bad just a few vendors who have provided legit shit
TopnotchUSA- sample sent and confirmed before dd closed. Good shit , pricey
Opentable - samle tested meth before drugsdata closed. Good shit
Reddoor - I dont give a fuck about some of the bullshit said around here, this dude has good meth honestly. I get the feeling some people are paranoid and they come up with weird theories, sometimes i see shit like WELL SO AND SO SAID IT WAS FIRE AND WHEN I GOT IT IT WAS MORE LIKE NOOOOS. That says to me either they sold their new batch that fast and their next up to bad wasnt good, Msg them they will fix it. Period
Wonton-- establshed and i one time had a bad batch, the next batch was a "refund" and absolutely insane. 100% Reliable in terms of quality and fix. Price and amount can be a bit of an issue when not needing it to that level
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list of vendors id still go to
Counttrapula (havent used in a min due to all the other vendor testing)
urlocalplug - ifh had a problem i know they would get to me when they sourced a better batch
duckdopego-- good shit, once had an issue, was resolved quick
was actualy gonna order from ephedrine and found them not on the market?
Yeah I believe /u/ephedup has been off the market since a recent disagreement with one of the mods on Archetyp. Ephed made a post about it.
I wish he'd come online I've been wanting to put in an order for awhile now haha. His products are quality, he's fast, easy to work with IME. I haven't found another vendor that carries anything like his d-meth. The racemic is awesome too.
Coming up with weird theories is different than being so out of it you can't even make it to the ER or that dude who "saw" cops and made a run for it jumping people's fences. Lucky he didn't get shot. Any vendor, bad and lied shit must be called out.
"Reddoor - I dont give a fuck about some of the bullshit said around here, this dude has good meth honestly. I get the feeling some people are paranoid and they come up with weird theories, sometimes i see shit like WELL SO AND SO SAID IT WAS FIRE AND WHEN I GOT IT IT WAS MORE LIKE NOOOOS. That says to me either they sold their new batch that fast and their next up to bad wasnt good, Msg them they will fix it. Period"
I can tell by your decorum as to why :) vendors need to be treated with respect. Honestly you have people not on that list who are good to why not go back to them? Why come out on here and attack Red. If you dont like them dont use them.
I have gotten a bad batch from them and it was rectified. I was courteous and polite. I treated them like a human being. I know the rage you are feeling its because of meth. It says to me you have been getting meth you just forgot what its like to feel spun. Theyre batches that are special that will supersede the norm. I will tell you this- there is a spiritual component to meth. if you havent accepted the fact you are a meth addict low bottom drug addict; aka you are like me. Then thats why you are in this stage, I can tell you they found about a ton of meth on the side of a highway. Check around for news articles like that. Interesting right?? Back to the spiritual. You are gonna have to accept you will not get high until you accept a way of life that either goes towards your addiction to the deamon or you go towards a life without the deamon, if you have been in and out of jails institutions, homeless, you smoke for decades.. you know this drug is evil. It can lead you to God, but it can also kill you. You are bitter because you cant have your cake and eat it to. You feel disgruntled. The meth being sold isnt fake; it might have cut it might not be as strong. But it will get you spun if you have made your decision. If you have more to argue about try the other vendors make your own list and let us know how that goes for ya.
I dont get paid or get free dope. I made this list based off my experience. When i got a bad batch id be polite and tell them the issue. They either agreed or disagreed. If i used them again and got the same shit i knew they werent worth using anymore. I am not out to get you man - you really come off as having an agenda. The most reliable hooks can always get bunk shit- you will never have a straight up 100% unless you get directly from the source. And if you can do that you wouldnt be here
I was polite to them. Mine is not the only story like mine.
My only purpose in posting is to help others avoid the same mistake.
I will try other vendors, I continue to. As I have said several places, I have bought from several vendors and received trash from all but was only motivated to speak about reddoor.
I will try more but I don't have high hopes. We shall see.
Ya no worries man. I might not know what real meth is after 30 years. I do know however that whatever im smoking from Reddoor seems to have kept me spun out. Count just recently had some bomb shit too - i cant whip out a full scale drug reader and tell u its 100. Theres cut, but i can guarantee this is meth. And like i said please post your results, even if a vendor doesnt have it in their tos these ones i have listed - all dont, but ALL have worked with me to rectify the situation.
I wish you the best of luck brotha - let the community know who has the a+ shit thats what everyone is looking for. I think youll be hard pressed though to find ANYONE with the 100 all the time unless its DIRECT from source/lab
Opentable DOES NOT have good shit. He sold me trash meth and trash X. Don't buy from him. Idk why he's on the list. Has anyone actually bought good shit from him?
i appreciate you taking the time to write this. I was able to get a couple of samples a while ago over at drugsdata before they stopped taking them. According
to what they posted it was meth. Upon smoking it, certainly was meth etc etc.
I know that sometimes supplies are fucked with, its true even with street glass, but honestly meth use is an epidemic its real.
I hope you have a kickass wonderful weekend and let us know any vendors you do come across with the real real meth. Thanks Jimmy
Just to add another data point (and I really have no dog in the fight, other than money down the drain). I picked up some Ephed dextro a couple weeks back. Haven't done the stuff in a while but I used to smoke back in the early aughts (which was apparently a golden age or something). Usually after the first hit or two, you would feel several immediate body reactions. It was on like donkey kong. In this case, not so much. It smokes alright, tastes alright. But even after 10 hits, I didn't feel anything other than some pressure in my head, likely a spike in blood pressure. Yay. That's no bueno.
I'm not a needle guy but I did end up taking about 15mg in a capsule. Pretty sure that had an effect but by then I was high on some other things. So I can't give a clear review on that form of ingestion. I'll follow up at some point. But Ephed's gear is simply not pipe worthy. Not sure if I'm willing to try a different vendor or not. As others have said, the reviews aren't all that trustworthy when a lot of people may not even know what good shit is like. Maybe there is no good shit, at least US to US.
Got it through Archetyp. I was + or - a couple weeks on that. Didn't want to be too specific because I don't want to correlate my Arch identity with my Dread identity -- for reasons.
Following up, I ate another 15mg last week while sober. Definitely caught a decent buzz. But again, just not the same as I remember. The euphoria especially was about 50% of what I expected. It was warm outside and wearing as little as possible felt good (sounds right). About 12 hours later, I had trouble sleeping (also sounds right) but zonked out pretty easily on 5mg of Ambien.
I should add my tolerance was almost zero. Other than what I described in my previous post, I haven't done this stuff in years (and yes I am an idiot for even going back). And again, not trying to dis on any particular vendor. I chose this one because the reviews were mostly very good and I was looking for a lower quantity & highest quality.
The reason I asked was because your timeframe landed right in the middle of a roughly 6 week long vacation, during which, i was closed for business, so if the purchase time was exactly when you said, then i'd be starting to wonder if an imposter sold it to you behind my back. that seems highly unlikely though.
Pretty unlikely as all was done via Arch. Shipping time was pretty decent as I recall. Escrow went smoothly. Time flies and looking at my history, this was closer to mid June. Guess I had to sit on it for a bit before making time to try it out.
words from the FUDmaster, as shown by your other posts.
i doubt any of the vendors you just listed would know where to buy n-isopropylbenzylamine, which you somehow know where to buy. None of us would want to know where to get it either. You're shitting on the vendors who are trying to get you high.
You should send it off to an analytical lab, like DrugsData but honestly I don't know if there are any operating that do GC-MS. That would be much more definitive.
Reagent tests are presumptive not definitive, they can rule out substances but they can't rule in one for certain.
For example, if what you have is like 5% meth and 95% some weird cut that doesn't react to the reagents, it will test the same as 100% meth.
Some other active ingredients will too.
I tell you this because you seem pretty legit and the stuff I got from you was honestly the best buzz out of all the folks I've tried, but I don't think it was actually meth. I won't swear yours wasn't, though. If it was, however, it was weaksauce.
I think most of this stuff going around on here is some random inert chemical that makes pretty crystals, with a tiny amount of meth so it passes reagent tests. Or honestly, more often than that even, some research chemical. Different batches have wildly different subjective effects, duration of effects, etc. So different drugs.
Most people refer to this kind of stuff as "n-iso". I don't want to get into that, I couldn't tell you if that's what it is or not, who knows. But it's not meth.
And look, I'm not trying to get uncut meth. I just want to get high. If you have to ask yourself, "Am I high?", you're not smoking meth. You honestly can't even blame it on tolerance and such; if you hit some meth, you feel it.
Anyway I ended up rambling. If you're honest, and I get the impression you might be, then that's my recommendation, send some of your stuff off for a full analysis. You might be surprised.
FWIW, which maybe isn't much at this point... I dragged your name into this when I shouldn't have. And I'd like to apologize for that. I've ordered from several vendors, including you, and I can honestly say your product was the best out of all of them.
mad props for getting it tested and sharing the results. i am just trying to figure out how to read the second graph, where the red line is identical to their baseline, literally. identical. and then there is a fainter orange line which is about a perfect spectral range match but with deeper valleys. is the orange, then, what you submitted in contrast to their baseline sample?
dunno what the yellow vs orange key at the bottom of p1 is trying to say, unless it was run in two different spectrometers...
assuming that's a correct read, then their baseline should have had a comparable variation from one scan to the next. but that red line is absolutely identical, as in, it must represent their baseline on both pages. maybe the orange line is yours... but the key distinguishing red from orange is kind of ambiguous.
if the orange line is you and the red line is theirs, well, that looks like yours passed the spectral scan with flying colors!
i would have expected virtually any modern day usa meth to have additional peaks from whatever cuts are common...
hopefully somebody finds access to this lab and can get some cut meth scanned. the results could do a lot toward determining, with certainty, what we have been unintentionally putting into our bodies and maybe what we can do to flush it out and minumize its toxicity.
actually the clear plastic bottles of acetone in the beauty section at walmart, starting at $1 for the little bottle to around $3 for the bigger bottle, those contain surprisingly super clean cheap DRY acetone. weird thing about em though, is they don't screw the caps on tight enough, so maybe not a good idea in humid places, and i have heard of people mail ordering them to find that the cap was loose and it was a mess by the time it arrived...
hot epsom salt works so well because its salt is a stable solid in 7 different hydration states...
Tried out a few vendors. For context I like to snort meth couple times a week and I only do 10 to 20 milligrams at most. I have an Adderall script but meth makes me more productive.
snowpaxx from Canada: 2 out of 5 at best. Stealth is on point but my batch was heavily cut.
uberddope from Canada: 2 out of 5. His gear was WET when it arrived, never seen anything like this before. Didn't like how it made me feel either...
CaesarsPalace: 3 out of 5.
TopNotchUSA: 4 out of 5. My favorite so far.
Waiting on a shipment from ephed will report later.
Hope I will get to try 100% pure dextromethamphetamine one day.
To me as a European buyer, I only had bad experiences with vendors on Archetyp. Either orders not turning up (mainly from the UK to France where I live) like my order with WhiteKnights though he offered 50% refund but that's still half of my money gone.
I tried happy2gether2's stuff after reading good comments. I first got a sample of his EVE and 0.3g of his golden oldie which is supposed to be superior. It came in powder form. Unfortunately dumb as I am surely after trying way worth vendors in terms of product quality I thought 0.3g wasn't enough to try and I got 10g (which he gives extra 25% meaning 12.5g) and it was only dust. Not one single crystal. If that wasn't enough the powder seemed to be the mix of some good meth with some bad meth as well some impurities (plastic or worst). I used 9 different dry pipes to smoke the 12.5g I had (I happen to have a lot of dry pipes...) and it was an absolutely a nightmare to clean with a torch lighter afterwards such the pipes were black from the plastic or whatever stuff was in that batch. What was left in the pipe (which clearly wasn't meth) smelt like burnt plastic. I had my neighbors knocking at my door asking to check if something was burning while I was cleaning the pipes. Meth is supposed to be odorless. This is simply not right.
What's the most frustrating as a buyer from the EU is that almost no UK parcels arrive to France or I simply didn't find the vendors that do pass just yet. I am waiting an order from uk2worldwide so I will update you with that if this arrives.
The least worst I tried was St0ffland who ships from Germany. Let's just say it was this kind of meth that evaporates when you smoke it which means 1g barely lasts you 1 day (while 1g of good stuff should last you 3 days). It also gives you heart palpitations and forces you to take benzos to pass through the bad effects so not ideal.
From reading the reviews I believe I should try snowpaxx in Canada even though that's a long trip to France. I hope it is some decent stuff and it will take a reasonable time to arrive.
Probabaly if you react on it he is very open to please people , I mean he admit he shipped out batches that were not in line with goldie and blocked some bad batches. Snowpax probobably better price/quality) but if you had correct golden oldie, its outstanding..
You should put CrystalClean on the list for reliable and great vendors for meth and other products <3 We're on Archetyp, Abacus, Dark Matter, & Torzon.
I would really be appreciative over having our name on this list.
Feel free to try a gram of our ice out for only $18 and that includes shipping on any market<3
send me a message on the market, didnt get knocked but had to take a short break for unrelated matters so took a short vacation but send me a message on Archetyp since i fugure thats what it was on and well get you straight. no bad intentions and we always make things right.
thank you for hoping we didnt get knocked though 100<3
have a kickass weekend thank you again!
CountTrapula, similarly, I bought based off the hype... it got me high but I'm fairly sure it was not meth.
OGServices, sure looked/burned/etc. the most like meth out of all these, but it didn't get me high.
Im not trying to fuck with your day and ill sound crazy here. But meth, i call it a deamon It is. You need to accept that you want this way of life to be spun out and give yourself whole hearted to it, Your life will become like mine, a struggle, pain it will lead to places that are dark. But thats what we give up to experience that rush. Only other path is sobriety. Gotta choose man, if you can do both man my hats off to ya
DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE