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[UPDATED] OpiateConnect369 Arrested - Criminal Complaint Released : Opiateconnect | Torhoo darknet markets

Edit: News dropped:

Criminal Complaints:
/u/Shakybeats M
5 points
2 years ago
With the amount of spam being posted on this sub I have set it to post approval.
/u/PelicanVendor Mr. Pelican
1 points
2 years ago*
Edit: nvm read complaint hellcat sites didn't do anything but steal
/u/[deleted]
10 points
2 years ago
Thank you /u/HugBunter.

You are like a guardian to us, giving us first hand information when no one ever get to get it first.
Protecting and keeping the Dread Family safe.
/u/JediP
1 points
2 years ago
I agree. First to break open the VS shit show too
/u/Anonymator59
9 points
2 years ago
DM me if anybody's planning to mount a rescue operation. I don't mind roasting pigs
This would be the hottest news story of the year second only to the war in Ukraine if OC supporters stormed the prison he is in much like the capital hill riots.
/u/teamdaydream
2 points
2 years ago
the opioid crisis has hit its peak!!! lmao
Hopefully, like bitcoin, arrests plunge going forward. Want to get the dangerous drugs off of the streets? Simple cheap solution. Legalize them for all adults to buy at their local pharmacy. Woosh, fent laced products disappear along with OD's but private prison system stocks plunge and our government apparently can't have any of that.
/u/sellphoneguy
1 points
2 years ago
I've been saying this for years. This is the way forward. Heroin used to be sold at pharmacies by Bayer for fuck's sake.
Apparently Oregon decriminalized possession of small amounts of drugs including heroin. What do they know that other states have not yet realized?
/u/gins422
1 points
2 years ago
wish I could give you some info on this but who knows who is reading these, lol (feds, go away). DM if you're interested in the situation in Oregon :)
Thanks, it was more of a shout out to the governor's as a group to look at Oregon. It blew my mind when New York's governor said that legalizing recreational marijuana was a top priority.
/u/porschewrites
1 points
2 years ago
Red Bull used to contain speed, like not all that long ago, and Coca Cola's name is because they used to literally use cocaine to make their cola. But, at least in America's case, if they made it legal to have drugs(even while keeping dealing illegal) what would the police plant to justify their bs? You expect them to just let people vote? That's ridiculous.

They really do need to make stronger movements towards decriminalizing possession though(I'd like the same for distribution too but..). A dude with a gram isn't ruining America, but his life being ruined due to it.. I would understand a few fires.
/u/augitetermy
2 points
2 years ago
red bull never contained amphetamines as far as i can find.

coca-cola actually contained ecgonine, which is a coca alkaloid and precursor to cocaine. ecgonine can have a very mild stimulant effect, but not nearly as much as the caffeine content
/u/blarmus
1 points
2 years ago
im pretty sure classic recipe uses coca leaf minus the caine.... so yeah prolly ecognine is left still... big deal. at first it had cocaine tho... but redbull speed? pffft i drank it like right when it came out and it never had any diff recipe as years progressed. where did you hear that mumbo jumbo? prolly parent invented shit to keep kids from drinking it...
/u/onionsoup
0 points
2 years ago
it wont be long dude, it is more expensive than fuel/gas/oil it must be considered inside the dimwit brains of the white collar cunts that run the country/countries. Stay safe dude. 1love
I wish that I believed that. Labs are busy cranking out new analogues with ever increasing character counts in their names as current ones get banned.

Etozclopdilapadoodlelam
/u/Quill
1 points
2 years ago
the chances of this happening a quite substantial to say the least lmao
/u/Poppies
1 points
2 years ago
"tis a noble sentiment. However, a rampage on a Big Pharma oxy factory might be time better spent. The people will not be denied their medicine.
/u/puggrowth
1 points
2 years ago
lmfao bar ideas are so ridiculous I wouldnt discount it. remember bro crossing CA---->US on a sled like fucking santa? someone was high on their own supply making that call
/u/vitaeunsogno
1 points
2 years ago
i would think if his reported bail of $10,000 is true then he's in no need of our services already haha
/u/HeadJanitor
7 points
2 years ago
You can't discount that OC was a dealer-to-dealer vendor.
/u/Shakybeats M
1 points
2 years ago
I said the same thing. A lot of vendors purchased from him. This is going to cause a lot of chaos
/u/HeadJanitor
6 points
2 years ago
I hope they all threw away their receipts.
/u/yeshello
2 points
2 years ago
best comment ive read all week
/u/HeadJanitor
1 points
2 years ago
:) :) hope it'll be a good week
/u/jethro23
1 points
2 years ago
Similar to the RcQueen/Xanaxlabs bust, lots of vendors got CD's
/u/PelicanVendor Mr. Pelican
1 points
2 years ago
Looks like they did not get into his old xmpp. Sadly if he is in federal custody we have no means of making contact.

His customer base touches many of the small to medium size vendors operating right now. I would avoid the domestic market for those products for a bit.

Also c'mon dont keep money counter and large amounts of cash at a pressing site..... The one good thing is if he doesn't co-operate which tbh they probably will seince they are already a felon because otherwise they going to get the book thrown at them but that 45k can be used for private counsel who can hopefully work something out but assume the worst everyone he has priors
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
Unfortunately they likely won't allow any of them to use the 45K for anything. It was seized at a drug manufacturing warehouse with, well drugs and firearms. We could crowdfund his legal defense!
/u/JuiceWRLD999
1 points
2 years ago
I wonder if Firebunny disappearing had any connection?
/u/puggrowth
1 points
2 years ago
not gonna see a blue bar for months/years when they run out.
/u/aspoonandafork
6 points
2 years ago
Here you go: https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2022/08/31/police-break-down-how-2-women-2-men-in-metro-detroit-helped-move-trash-bags-of-drugs-sold-on-dark-web/

I hate to say it but WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING? So fucking sloppy. Going into the PO with garbage bags full of packs?!? I mean seriously, what the fuck? Maybe they just got so confident that they were untouchable that they stopped thinking about their OPSEC but wow i can't believe that a vendor like this would step foot within a mile of a post office. If they were this sloppy with their own OPSEC I can't even imagine how they were with their customer info - definitely clean house if you're a medium/large customer of theirs.

Wow. Just wow.
/u/jethro23
2 points
2 years ago*
I couldnt believe what I was reading, black trash bags in the post office.... Also he was already arrested in 2018 and the feds knew what he was doing then. I get the feds let people ship packs for awhile so they could have a shut case but with how sloppy the were Im still surprised they lasted so long
/u/aspoonandafork
4 points
2 years ago
Lol seriously what the fuck they're seriously fortunate that they managed to last FOUR YEARS! I'm shocked they'd let thousands of packs through while they built their case but here we are.

I thought this was going to be some sort of spy novel type take down, where the feds were using REDACTED technology to catch the vendors. Nope, they literally just looked out for the woman with garbage bags full of packs at the POST OFFICE lol. I'm still shocked at what I just read.
/u/azfphree
1 points
2 years ago
21. TAYLOR, driving the Fusion, exited the driveway of 5852 Florida Street and was followed closely by an older red Chevy Trail Blazer driven by a heavy- set Hispanic male. TAYLOR drove through southwest Detroit neighborhoods and side streets, followed by the red Blazer. Close surveillance was terminated, as it appeared TAYLOR was executing counter-surveillance techniques.


there's your spy novel shit
/u/aspoonandafork
1 points
2 years ago
No kidding, check the google maps for the addresses named in the filing and you'll see the defendant's cars in the images.
/u/puggrowth
1 points
2 years ago
aka they were on a stakeout and tried to run from the cops
/u/puggrowth
1 points
2 years ago
literally same with TOH and ECB/Litsolutions. thought there would be a crazy story behind it. TOH i think was the most interesting. i remember them posting in each color 100k bars on here before they got bopped. always sloppy. if ur smart, u get out w a GED and at least a trade.
/u/Xanitforthecash
1 points
2 years ago
when was toh popped? he had a shopper that got busted but that wasnt toh.
/u/puggrowth
2 points
2 years ago
feds will leave up a CP site for like 3 years just to get the "right ppl" in the heirarchy
/u/azfphree
1 points
2 years ago
also because feds enjoy their CP
/u/cryptkeeper1351
1 points
2 years ago
seriously how stupid can you be to be dropping them at the post office yourself, shouldve been using a drop box in middle of night and paid someone else to do it
/u/EmpBomb
5 points
2 years ago
Rip /u/opiateconnect369 :(

Hope all Vendors/Buyers take this bust as a wake up call to level up their OpSec starting from this moment..
/u/[deleted]
2 points
2 years ago
A vendor that size operating for that long surely had good opsec though, im dying to see the arrest report and see how he got caught
/u/browheresmyjuul
2 points
2 years ago
It's really not too difficult. Step one. Polce order a pack undercover. Step two. Police open pack, verify drugs, and trace the package's movement. Step three. The police find the location the package was delivered from. Step four. They check the cameras, the names on the packages, the addresses on the packages, and see if any connect. Step 5. Once an individual has been identified on camera as a suspect, they track down your identity whether it be staking out the post office, your home, your job, anything. If they have a hard time tracing you down, they order again. And then again. Until finally they can zero in on you as the primary suspect. It's basic police work. Just because we use Tor and Cryptocurrencies doesn't protect us from jack shit.

Instead,a smart vendor would cough up the extra cash to hire someone to mail the packages. Preferrably more than one person and not to ship from the same location more than once a month. Your runners mailing the packages will never be in direct contact with you, and they will never be anywhere near the stash house or your place of residence. Eventually the police is gonna grab one of em and then you just gotta hope they dont snitch. But it makes the police's job much harder the more complex your system becomes.
/u/MajesticBard18
1 points
2 years ago
Me too deff gonna be a good read.
/u/Phoenix1017
5 points
2 years ago
If you ordered at any point, consider that your information is probably saved. This is the oft not talked about, but known tactic of many vendors. Trade info of all customers if they are busted. That being said with a guy of this magnitude that operated for this long, with thousands of customers— consider yourself somewhat clear if you ordered small time a few orders. You still need to clean every speck of your home and electronics and chill for a good while. Now if you ordered >10,000 bars per pack or so, be worried and take precautions as everyone is warning, because you are being watched/investigated 100%. No doubt about it. Same with the white he was selling.

Must have been hellcat or one of his very large scale trusted customers he had been working with for a long time. One of them must have dropped info. Or a runner/shipper did.

Alternatively, the money was found and traced.

Good luck to everyone, be safe and take this seriously no matter the amounts.

Conspiracy theory: I wonder if this could have anything to do with that big bust in North Carolina that happened in June that we never heard any more about. Hundreds of thousands of pressed Xanax, thousands of USPS boxes ect….
/u/OG_Lawyer
3 points
2 years ago
Got a link? I wouldn't mind reading about that one.
/u/Phoenix1017
1 points
2 years ago*
Sure buddy, 300,000 Xanax and coke just like OC. They said they found fentanyl but that’s most likely not true. Probably just a rc benzo he was using to press. (Clonazolam, Bromozolam, Flualp ect) He seems to have all the colors that OC sells…I know it says he has his own press but still… a lot of similarities here. And to my knowledge no one ever figured out exactly who this guy was. But he was definately someone in the DN world with all that product and usps boxes. Could have been a clearnet TG, Discord seller but still strange no one figured out who it was. Maybe was connected to OC in some slight way…maybe was a shipper, OC was maybe his source for some things. Could speculate forever.


Clearnet Alert!

https://www.weau.com/2022/06/10/man-charged-with-20-felonies-after-police-seize-over-1-million-drugs
/u/OG_Lawyer
1 points
2 years ago
Thanks buddy. I agree, very coincidental timing, but this guy seemed sloppy as fuck. Arrested multiple times, doing in person deals for $1300 bucks? Doesn't seem to coincide with the picture that people paint of OC.

I wonder if this guy's bust coincides with the timing of any other vendors going down. Thanks for sharing the link. Interesting story.
/u/zombiekiller
1 points
2 years ago
old link and OC would be up in the millions, not a million. OC was this kids connect
/u/Phoenix1017
2 points
2 years ago*
Possibly, guys this fella in the link is obviously not OC! I never said that. I’m saying he could have been a high volume purchaser with info on OC or a shipper/worker for OC. Could have provided any small info that got the ball rolling on this investigation 3 months ago. Pure speculation of course.
/u/jonnyjon123
5 points
2 years ago
What the fuck? This new information... I have more questions than I did before. So they basically had them dead to rights, for many years, but continued the the surveillance operation in full swing, even using helicopters, made no arrests, again for years, and then they let Taylor out on a 10k unsecured bond? What in the fuck is going on here? How many millions of dollars did this operation cost lmao. Tax payers money well spent, one of the main suspects let loose for 10k. Incredibly fishy and retarded. This seems very off. Even for drug task force dick heads.
/u/BlackLotus
1 points
2 years ago
maybe they caught her early on and she became an informant.. or maybe it's true what they say and women get less time than men
/u/jonnyjon123
1 points
2 years ago
That still doesn't make much sense. Maybe it might explain her bond figure but not the entire case. Ostensibly they would have allowed the operation to continue in order to identify suppliers and downstream dealers and/or users. That doesn't take years and years. Especially when they seemingly cracked their opsec almost instantly. This wasn't the type organization in The Wire, it was a few people going from point A to B to C with trash bags full of drugs on a clockwork schedule lol.
/u/BlackLotus
1 points
2 years ago
i guess people were paid off.. maybe the police were involved and DEA and other feds started catching on, so they had to bust them to cover their own asses (the police)
/u/BehindBars
4 points
2 years ago
RIP Opiateconnect
I always had respect for you.

Fortunately I can't be busted as I'm already BehindBars trappin on my smuggled ass phone.
OMG. I hate to laugh at such a sad situation but true that! I can just imagine that news story: BehindBars arrested behind bars so he will just remain at the same location stated one embarrassed LE official.
/u/imcoopromise555
2 points
2 years ago
Your Pills are pretty good that's fo sho. I was one of the lucky ones that got the bad ass deal on boho..love to do business in the future
/u/blancodrugs
4 points
2 years ago
Set goals and once achieved, RETIRE and build a legit business in the .com world , Drug businesses always end up with a bust.
/u/d2R
3 points
2 years ago
Wish the best for him, his family, friends, and customers.
/u/BlackLotus
1 points
2 years ago
this! :(

diablo 2 resurrected?
/u/OG_Lawyer
3 points
2 years ago
What you're likely going to see from a vendor like OC, is that he will provide information on the largest dealers that he was supplying, waive his indictment, and take a plea bargain. It's very unlikely the DEA will reveal their investigative tactics in a case this large. If you look up his case on a website like Pacer, you'll only see a few documents, which will not include an indictment. If they do upload an indictment, it won't contain any degree of detail aside from "Mr. Smith operated the vendor account from 1/2015 to 1/2022, and sold X amount of dollars worth of illegal narcotics."
/u/jethro23
1 points
2 years ago
Same reason Benzoboys never had anything out about his arrest but I know a few people who got arrested from that ordeal
/u/OG_Lawyer
1 points
2 years ago
Were they a DN vendor? Never heard of them before. Got a link to a news story?
/u/kell
1 points
2 years ago
http://tojmubxuqhzu5mtp557ng2sro2r2yofbw437wp33cbworn6v6vruukyd.onion/m6pt9d3u5g.gif

you mean these
/u/manemane
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/OG_Lawyer
1 points
2 years ago
Haha, I definitely read the tea leaves wrong on this one.
/u/gxring
1 points
2 years ago
haha still generally right though
/u/manemane
3 points
2 years ago
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/u/Juan_SV-R
1 points
2 years ago
You are on the right path, the key thing is to not get too greedy. That is how most catch the attention of FedEx.
/u/fraudenscheude
2 points
2 years ago
Related recent DD change? /post/d91adc125240d5bab132
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
2 years ago
Maybe or maybe not. He did discuss this with me the day he made that post, seemed like he needed to be able to offer direct deals with recent events.
/u/fraudenscheude
1 points
2 years ago
Recent events means hellcat?
/u/Shakybeats M
2 points
2 years ago
/u/DeSnake if he is still on AB
/u/DeSnake
7 points
2 years ago
He was banned not even 2 minutes after the post was made. Ban is preemptive but with us he seems to have had XMR in his wallet as well as not logged in for some days. Staff were actually discussing to limit him on Monday as we actively monitor but since this came out a ban was already put out. Thank you for the notification, we will look closely at the situation.

Thank you.
/u/CoreyTrevor
0 points
2 years ago
Will you please refund my order with OC please, I disputed it days ago.

Dispute 904848 Please!
/u/SteveIrwin
3 points
2 years ago
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/u/CoreyTrevor
2 points
2 years ago
Yes, thank you, and Thank you AB for taking care of the dispute so quickly, thank you sincerely.
/u/trippymane
2 points
2 years ago
pressed pills are high on the list, right beneath fentanyl
/u/JoeExotic P
3 points
2 years ago
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/u/trippymane
2 points
2 years ago
the guy had more subsribers than most of the smaller markets
/u/ketchup1
2 points
2 years ago
this right here !
/u/taigahunter
2 points
2 years ago
Thank you for everything you do /u/HugBunter and /u/Paris. You guys are godsends.
/u/CoreyTrevor
2 points
2 years ago
It seems as if somebody snitched! Read the second sentence below!


Request for Sealing
It is respectfully requested that the Court issue an order sealing, until further order of the Court, all papers submitted in support of the requested search warrant, including the application, this affidavit, the attachments, and the requested search warrant. I believe that sealing these documents is necessary because the information to be seized is relevant to an ongoing investigation, and any disclosure of the information at this time may endanger the life or physical safety of an individual, cause flight from prosecution, cause destruction of or tampering with evidence, cause intimidation of potential witnesses, or otherwise seriously jeopardize an investigation.
Premature disclosure of the contents of the application, this affidavit, the attachments, and the requested search warrant may adversely affect the integrity of the investigation.
/u/trippymane
1 points
2 years ago
someone snitched, or this whole evidence log is a case for parallel reconstruction of events.
/u/BlackLotus
2 points
2 years ago
o shit we dealt mostly with a girl. PROPS!
Thank you so much. How awful. The thought that immediately comes to mind is did hellcat rat him out?
/u/XanInc
2 points
2 years ago
Whos hellcat? Interested as to what happened so everyone can avoid these mistakes
XanInc
/u/SteveIrwin
1 points
2 years ago
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That was no exit scam. Hellcat got caught and banned as your link proved.
/u/rambouk2uk P
2 points
2 years ago
friend he been posting promotions on the website with 10% off and even buy one get one free.
thats a 100% exit scam
Exit scam ordinarily involves voluntary exit of vendor, not arrest.
Hellcat never was a vendor. He was the creator of OC's onion shops. He was stealing from OC's customers. Vendors exit scam. Do you understand that he could insert any information that he wanted to on those stores?
Do you realize that OC's alpha bay listings all had positive feedback and his rating there was in the upper 90 percentage range? The people who got scammed used hellcat's onion stores. There was no exit scam.
/u/sheerenergy
1 points
2 years ago
Are you complaining that he doesn't fulfill orders from prison?
/u/SteveIrwin
0 points
2 years ago
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I guess that you have never seen an exit scam. Hellcat was not a vendor. He was the onion shop creator who was stealing from OC's customers. He was a thief, pure and simple. You can't exit scam without first being a vendor or market. He was finally exposed and banned.
/u/SteveIrwin
0 points
2 years ago
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"which is still running until this day."

TFW when one exits yet remains in place. Isn't there a scientific theory regarding being in two places at once?

No one ever ordered from hellcat. Everyone thought that they were ordering from OC so you can call him a hacker but we can just agree to disagree. A case could be made that he scammed OC though.
/u/SteveIrwin
1 points
2 years ago*
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"With that logic you're saying if a market freezes withdrawals and keep the market running with the intention of stealing those funds that's not considered an exit scam?"

Oh, you mean like ASAP recently did?? Hmm, thought that they resumed operations. But when does one determine intent to steal, while withdrawals are frozen or AFTER they leave?
Yes, I am saying that until they are gone they did not exit scam regardless of appearances.

We simply have different definitions of exit scams. Hellcat was caught and was banned so technically he did not leave. He was thrown out. He scammed the vendors but did not exit scam. Empire market exit scammed. People knew they were storing funds on Empire and Empire shut the doors and stole them.
GBUSA exit scammed. People knew they were buying from him and he simply stopped sending packs that people paid FE for.
No one thought that they were buying from Hellcat except for vendors who thought that they were buying legit stores.
/u/SteveIrwin
1 points
2 years ago*
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You are correct about Hellcat's account not being banned. I wrongly assumed that HB took his account with his subdread. Regardless, he was not vending to customers. He was selling a service to vendors so his posting history is a moot point thus I shall continue to think of him as a scammer but not an exit scammer.
/u/Dkkon
2 points
2 years ago
Blimey! Would you just look at that beauty! Ulimate Conversational Hair-Splitting going on right here between Steve Irwin -the Khaki Reptile Wrestler and NewbieForever- the faithful moderator we've all known since reddit allowed RC Sourcing Who will come out on top?!
This is not a cage fight. We have differing opinions is all. The elephant in the room is that LE took down one of our own.
/u/DrPiff
1 points
2 years ago
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
I didn't ban his account, I locked it out and kept his content in place while things were going down, I'll ban it shortly.
/u/teamdaydream
1 points
2 years ago
lmao bro.... you went so hard in that discussion.

But if you take into account that hellcat exited the act of normal operations but entered into pure scamming. Then then he in fact exit scammed. But please don't spam me with responses. My brain is thinking the thing everyone else is thinking. Maybe this motherfucker had something to do with information leakage to law enforcement. But that is FUD. But my brain cant help but think the worst. Someone who is willing to take peoples money isn't concerned with their privacy or safety either. And no one should ever trust people to make them a site they don't own the sources to.
Well then you apparently have information that I do not. I was corrected in that his dread account still exists so who is to say that he is still not creating onions for those unaware of the OC story. Perhaps he is dangling the prospect of onion shops to clearnet vendors now? IDK. The fact however is that he was or is an onion shop creator and most buyers probably were unaware that he even existed, thought that they were doing DD's with OC. He was never the vendor. This is OC's subdread. Hellcat was not even a moderator. OC customers naturally assumed that onion listings on the sidebar here were to be trusted. They wound up scammed because Hellcat scammed OC. Had OC remained in business his plan was to repay victims, why? Because OC knows that he was scammed.
/u/feisthedevil
1 points
2 years ago
That's definitely not an exit scam. An exit scam is when a sight exits from the online world and takes everything that was in escrow with them. This guy is still up and running. That's just a regular scammer, or something in a new category - an entrance scam.
/u/barenakedfuckers
1 points
2 years ago
seriously who the FUCK is this HELLCAT person or team or group. i recently saw someshit about hell cat taking over other sites also
/u/vash445
1 points
2 years ago
he made websites for a lot of vendors
/u/qt314
1 points
2 years ago
he made many private onions for people and then took over their funds.
/u/dqdinc is one user that comes to mind. sadly no longer around
/u/QuickieFlippie
1 points
2 years ago
hellcat would make personal onions for vendors and wait for big deals to go through and swap out addresses to take the customers money and leave the vendors with dick in hand
/u/CryptoBroke23
1 points
2 years ago
Some details to this story pls. i never fucked with hellcat but seems anyone who got scammed by "hellcat" might be getting a visit. Destroy hard drives. For real clean fucking house!
/u/SteveIrwin
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
BTC addresses are something he could share
/u/SteveIrwin
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/strace
1 points
2 years ago
He'd be monero only if he really were up to speed on the capabilities of btc antianalysis.
/u/Jedi1
1 points
2 years ago
coinbase had me on hold for like 3 mnths saying it was a account verification ,lasted at least 3 mnths,only had like 20$ in acct.then got message on app to resend id pics and info ,coulda been nothin but ,i deleted that shit n ill never use coinbase again.
There are no details. It was as posted, a thought that came to mind.
/u/SteveIrwin
1 points
2 years ago
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This was totally sourced from my imagination. Hellcat was recently exposed as having scammed OC's store customers so one would assume that they had some discussions during the building of his stores. Who knows how much info OC revealed to him. Who knows if Hellcat wanted revenge? Probably bogus but as I originally stated it came to mind.
/u/rambouk2uk P
0 points
2 years ago
friend u got a good Imagination
i would use that to write some books
you could be the next J. K. Rowling
u have a gift

:)

/u/newbieforever2018
Thanks

It isn't far fetched. OC has to chat with hellcat about how he wants his store setup and any changes along the way during their business relationship. Frequent chats can cause trust to develop and even friendships. Assuming OC trusted him to create the vendor store not far fetched that they might have discussed problems with his mercedes benz or his dog, breed named having regular flea problems and the view from , fill in state name , is beautiful right now. Before you know it Hellcat is trusted with OC's whole life story then Hellcat is sent packing. Disgrunteled clients seeking retribution is not unheard of. This is all a work of fiction and OC could just have a dark cloud following him this year, first scammed by hellcat and then busted so at this point it is a complete work of fiction, never claimed otherwise from the start.
/u/DrFeelGood141
1 points
2 years ago
Wallet addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, clearnet comm channels, pgp keys. There are a lot of things that can go wrong.
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
wallet address is the only thing really that would be realistic here the rest is only something a fucking idiot would do. Even with the wallet adddres OC was making millions he must of had the crypto cashing out sorted to run for this long
/u/DrFeelGood141
2 points
2 years ago
Well irregardless of all of that he still got caught, don't assume vendors are opsec geniuses, they make mistakes like everybody else, Insta had a long run and all the money one could want yet still made mistakes.
/u/brodybro69
1 points
2 years ago
*regardless
/u/DrFeelGood141
1 points
2 years ago
Thanks, yeah irregardless is not even a word.
/u/speedytv4you
1 points
2 years ago
I hate it, but it is in fact a word. Merriam-Webster Has Officially Recognized ‘irregardless’ As A Word
Posted October 27, 2020
/u/brodybro69
1 points
2 years ago
holy fuck you're right

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
/u/DrFeelGood141
2 points
2 years ago
No I get you dude, and it sounded awkward af, irregardless you stand corrected :-)
/u/DrFeelGood141
1 points
2 years ago
It does sound awkward though and I could have used "regardless" in the same context.
/u/blaumpsous
1 points
2 years ago
Fun, I was just having this conversation with someone the other day. Any linguist will tell you that the correct way to use language is whatever way effectively communicates with the other person. Using slang or eubonics or fucking Tamarian metaphor is all perfectly fine, as long as the individual you are speaking to understands your intent English is a dynamic language that changes all the time. Cool is no longer exclusively a reference to lack of thermal energy. "Literally" can be used to mean metaphorically, even if Websters doesnt recognize it officially that way yet. Literally can also be used as an exclamation, and everyone understands the intent, even if it isn't what the word means. "Irregardless" can be used in the same way as a profanity can - to perk up the ears of listeners..So to paraphrase Jello, grammar nazis fuck off.
/u/DrFeelGood141
3 points
2 years ago
Agree with you 100% I am open to some criticism. I've always had a chip on my shoulder for never completing my education despite attending a prestigious school.

I do subscribe to the notion of addressing the audience and this context I don't think I was too far off despite sounding somewhat awkward in execution.

I do see bad grammar all the time, not only on Dread but in what you would think are professionally edited articles. More often it happens online and not in print which would be immutable once it hits the stands so to speak.

Not to be pendantic, although it's too late for that, I'm not a fan of the grammar Nazis but sometimes it's what you get when the point of the argument to begin with can't be contested. In this case, OC got caught proboably due to an OpSec failure from him or his group. Hopefully he makes it out intact with minimal damage but he would have to roll for that I think.
/u/blaumpsous
1 points
2 years ago
Agreed back to ya :)

I didn't really mean to address that directly to you, but just to add to the conversation, so I am glad you didn't take it as a personal attack.
/u/DrFeelGood141
1 points
2 years ago
Personal attack, no, not at all, your comment was welcome and gives better context.
/u/QuickieFlippie
1 points
2 years ago
dude I was talking to a mutual friend of ours and the hellcat theory could definitly be possible
/u/DrFeelGood141
2 points
2 years ago*
I would be wary of interacting with a vendor that had any kind of dealing with HellCat, they may not know it but HC which is a Dodge Charger derivative and official car of the PoPo, would have significant operational intel of that vendor including names and addresses of big volume buyers. Those were the people that were getting ripped off.
/u/QuickieFlippie
1 points
2 years ago
very good point
/u/strace
1 points
2 years ago
What would be the motivation? It's not like OC led the charge against him. He'd have to be delusional to enact revenge on a guy who justifiably booted him after discovering he'd been stealing from him.

Also hellcat's an aussie. I suppose it's always possible to involve himself with US LE for retribution purposes but I'm skeptical.
/u/QuickieFlippie
1 points
2 years ago
the motivation would be that when you screw over a huge vendor like OC its gonna be hard to find work anywhere else, anything is possible tho
/u/56Cash
1 points
2 years ago
no fucking way
/u/spotifyplaylist
1 points
2 years ago
Shame, shame.... Genuine guy. Hope it works out for him the best way possible. Fuck the feds.
/u/HeadJanitor
1 points
2 years ago
Sunday, News of the week.
No one is safe. By now he should be able to afford the best lawyer. Best of luck to you OC!
/u/weirdaf1
1 points
2 years ago
WTF rip
/u/Winterhill13
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
Some time in the last 3 weeks, probably around the 2 week mark from what I know. If you were buying any serious amounts obviously get a lawyer on retainer and make sure you are squeeky clean.
/u/Winterhill13
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
2 years ago
He will have been running it actively until his bust I would assume, we need to await more details when the news drops. I think my post will allow that to come to light quickly now, the only reason they don't release bust news is when they are still working on gathering info or have other raids lined up. Hopefully this post ahead of time will assist some buyers.
This will probably piss off LE because now they have to act fast before evidence is destroyed. You did a real service to members here as well as his customers.
I am actually afraid to order from anyone now.
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
You're not kidding. About any of it. Thanks for the heads up and also, I'm terrified to order anything. I'm about a week away from not having association with my drop spot and I don't use my own name, but if they were to come - would I have any plausible deniability would I have if the house was clean and my computer wasn't there. Would they know I owned a computer, regardless? I haven't dealt with him in 3 months, but if they access the onion site - they'll see tickets raised and PGP messages and stuff. Damn, man.
Clean house, no computer, and phone only used for legit business probably means "well, keep your nose clean, see ya".
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
If i do a wipe on the computer I have, could I sell it? or would I have to replace the SSD and everything? or are you going to tell me to smash it?
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
HALP!
/u/jonnyjon123
1 points
2 years ago
Wipe it and then sell it? Depends how large your orders were. I'm guessing not that big since you're talking about salvaging a computer. I doubt they are going to have the forensics team try and retrieve data off a wiped drive in your case. If you were doing large deals then I'd burn all that shit though.
I can't give you an answer to that. I do not know what their capability to retrieve data is. If you bought personal amounts a wild guess is that you are okay but if you were a reseller then smashing the SSD is cheap insurance.
/u/Dreamcatcher77
1 points
2 years ago
what exactly, clean house mean? like delete market accounts? or what? or delete order list but idk how to do that? this is crazy i aint never seen this befor such a shame.. hope all works out
/u/bestbenzos
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/Dreamcatcher77
1 points
2 years ago
okay thank you so much! so the drop is now no good for anyone now is what ur saying?
/u/bestbenzos
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/Dreamcatcher77
1 points
2 years ago
okay gotcha, yah i havent its been over that pretty good so its probbly still bad or ??
/u/zerog3zerog
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
Treat it as if the feds could come knocking at your door any time and consider your address burned, do not make an order to the same address again.
/u/theboiboi
1 points
2 years ago
what if i havent orderd from OC in over a year?
/u/dopey4chlo
1 points
2 years ago
No, /u/opiateconnect369 was one of the good guys. Honest about what he sold which was legal in all but maybe one state. Feds need to spend their time fucking ppl who are dishonest, and do bogus shit. He will be missed.?? Fuckin Feds!
Sorry but you are mistaken. OC was selling coke. That, rather than the clonazolam, was probably what attracted the attention.

He was a good guy and this war on drugs is a war on good citizens and a war against our freedoms. Remember prohibition? There is no common sense reason why some drugs result in lockup and other drugs, cigarettes and alcohol, can be legally purchased.
/u/dopey4chlo
2 points
2 years ago
I feel you. When I said he was one of the good guys, I meant he was fair to his customers. One time he sent me kpack of duds. I messaged him n explained. He said if u keep fuckin with me I'll fix that. So, following week I bought knack terrified bc I'm not rich n have horrible money management. Well, 3 days later I got like 3500. Stand up dude. Also, dunno why but after eating 3 clams for years my body started rejecting them. It was terrifying. No one else was having issues but they had no effect on me. Dude refunded my purchase. I bought fr someone else n still had same problem. Bottom line is dude is good dude.
In that respect I agree that he was one of the good guys. Got to hand it to him even when disagreeing he kept things cordial "my friend". I have seen some vendors post expletive deleted rants when pissed off but not OC. I truly feel sorry for him right now.
/u/theboiboi
1 points
2 years ago
you really think the feds are more concerned with cocaine then taking down the biggest pressed xan dealer on the planet? just wondering why you think the blow brought more heat on him im not being sarcastic i value your opinion please explain.
Cocaine is schedule 2 in the US. Clonazolam is unscheduled nationally in the US although state laws vary. Even when scheduled benzos are schedule 4 in the US.
Just a thought. Might just be the volume of bars. IDK
/u/[deleted]
2 points
2 years ago
I think the more funds a vendor is making is a higher target with the type of drug being secondary (except for fent).

OC was making tax free multi millions and the feds dont like it when they dont get their cut of the pie from dealers
I agree that vendors who are able to fund the US Treasury are high priority targets but I also believe that the product sold is also a major trigger. IMHO if OC was all clonazolam all of the time, a research chemical that doesn't even fall under the Federal Analogue act which only applies to Schedule 1 and 2 analogues that he might still be operating. I believe that the combination of coke and cash were the draw.
/u/winkingcherub
1 points
2 years ago
Out of curiosity what's the penalty for clon if you're in a US State without scheduling for it? Not so much in relation to this case, more so just generally.
Possession for personal use probably little to nothing but intent to distribute could cause problems because even though not scheduled also not meant for human consumption. I have no legal background though.
/u/winkingcherub
1 points
2 years ago
No worries, neither do I lol. Pure curiousity, having never really dug into exactly what the potential risk is to buyers as it relates to things that aren't scheduled, are research chems, etc. especially with so many of them being available.
They circumvent the law with disclaimers but when they sell as bars there can be no doubt that they were not meant for research.
/u/JoeExotic P
0 points
2 years ago
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Counterfeiting drugs probably is a less serious charge than selling schedule 2 drug coke but I am not a lawyer.

If his drugs were showing up in Rite Aid pharmacies that might destabilize people's trust in big pharma but those buying from the street corner dealer who notice something not quite right are going to blame the dealer, not the drug company.
/u/JoeExotic P
1 points
2 years ago
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I understand that but I would guess that a selling coke charge carries a stiffer penalty than a selling xanax pressed with clonazolam does.
/u/empty
1 points
2 years ago
Damn, he was a cool guy. Hope he comes out on top I'm sure he'll have a great attorney
/u/tiegs2999
1 points
2 years ago
Thanks for the info!
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
Thanks for heads up. I am super glad I never dealt with him before! Stay safe everyone and good luck OC
/u/lickdickstick
1 points
2 years ago
it is a sad day for the xanny cartel :(
OC was a solid vendor
/u/doorknob
1 points
2 years ago
R.I.P.
OC WILL BE MISSED..
/u/Haven_Shill_XHV
1 points
2 years ago
Thanks for always helping us out.
/u/kaizushi
1 points
2 years ago
> He's currently sitting in federal custody

Which jurisdiction?
/u/drankwater42069
1 points
2 years ago
Great. Thats 560 down the drain i really couldnt afford to lose rn..
/u/jethro23
1 points
2 years ago
Sad to see him go, Im curious what lead to his bust
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
Fuuuuuuck.
/u/Kelvguru
1 points
2 years ago
Was so happy getting to know that trusteelucky is banned from alpha market. That guy is indeed a scammer, buy 1 get 3x free lol. Pure exit scam!!!!
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
Holy shit this is huge news for the DN he was a massive vendor. Im itching to see the arrest report and see how he got caught
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
Definitely blows. Anyone want to take bets on ethnicity / age?
/u/trippymane
2 points
2 years ago
33 year old of asian decent.. lets see if i'm correct..

i notice those westcoast asian boys seem to all have the connects for a pill press lol
/u/scambaby
1 points
2 years ago
Exactly what i pictured lol.
/u/Deord1979
2 points
2 years ago
I guess middle eastern or Indian around 40 years old
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
I also like this answer. It would explain an easier connect; the know-how; and it's also in the subtext. Not many people used the phrase, 'My friend", quite as much as he does. I know of about 5-6 cultures that repeatedly use it and they're mostly dealing with foreigners...and trying to sell you stuff. Lol
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
im going to go for age 30-40 (36 for a guess) black guy .

Whats yours?
/u/didimau
0 points
2 years ago
36-43, of Latin American descent. Naturellement!
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
This is very sad, but...Victor Hernadez, age 50? I damn near nailed that shit.
/u/winkingcherub
1 points
2 years ago
Well done lol. I gotta admit, not exactly the kind of person I was imagining. But to be honest, none of it was what I'd have imagined was behind the scenes.
/u/sikko420
1 points
2 years ago
damn this is sad af
/u/BigDaddy2K
1 points
2 years ago
Another top vendor caught just sad to see this happen
/u/cocainehippy
1 points
2 years ago
That fucking sucks. Thanks for this info.
/u/DarkNetDaily
1 points
2 years ago
FUCK.

Sad day. Wishing OC the best.
/u/Citrust
1 points
2 years ago
How previous are we talking Like current orders? orders in the past couple weeks? how far back would y'all consider safe?
/u/Steno
1 points
2 years ago
That's the neat part. Nobody knows
/u/ThePsychenaut
1 points
2 years ago
i love the idea of private onion shops but i have yet to see a perfect implementation. it seems like most vendors who trust somebody else to code their shit just end up getting fucked. hellcat is just another con man in a long string of coding con men who get too greedy and destroy the very essence of what should be an (semi)anonymous community of shared wealth and tech wisdom. its sad that there are clear web shops running for years without these issues. fuck hellcat. rip OC. good luck and best wishes to all those affected... clean house!
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
6 points
2 years ago
I ran shops for 2 years, no one got fucked.
/u/mrpoopman
1 points
2 years ago
the cops got all information if they had access to it for over 24 hours
/u/Psoaddict
1 points
2 years ago
I just cant imagine someone who has been so careful got busted, there had to be a fall guy after how long this dude was in the game.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
It only takes one slip up, could have been early on in his OP, we won't know for sure unless they release the full indictment, which may not even happen.
/u/Psoaddict
1 points
2 years ago
I guess time will tell, I dont know, im an optimistic kind of guy. Hopefully it isnt true but i remember this happening to pasitheas.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
News dropped
/u/anytimeshowtimerewind
1 points
2 years ago
Hey Please HELP. sorry i am new to this last last friday new and it wont let me create a new thread. i ordered from inlandempire who has over 50 amazing reviews on kingdom. i looked him up on recon and he has zero reviews there. I havent received the package its supposedly in route but im concerned after finding this out that it could be LE? Maybe im wrong but please help me if you can. Also in addition how can i be more safe for the future all the way around?
/u/Papinian3
2 points
2 years ago*
Hello Monkeynuts, I really don't understand you. I did personally answered you via ticket then via Dread and you still open the same request. Why?????? And how are we related to this thread to OpiateConnect369? He was not our vendor. Can I just quickly say that 'faint heart never won fair maiden', and I think we need to be much bolder here. Rgds. P3
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
Make sure to follow guides in the /d/DNMBible and ask questions when needed in /d/DarkNetMarketsNoobs - pretty sure Kingdom isn't in the superlist of vetted markets, but I could be wrong. Try to stick to the tried and proven markets because even if legitimate, a lot of these smaller markets allow new vendors in who could just be looking to scam you.

For reference, you can find the Superlist here: /d/superlist
/u/ArthurShelby
1 points
2 years ago
So sad for OC, he definitely earned a top spot in the vendor hall of fame. I really hope he's been deleting any customer info he may have had. Still nothing in the news though, is this totally verified info?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
The source has never been wrong as of yet, hopefully we get confirmation by the end of the week, but they could be keeping it wrapped up while they complete investigations related to him and so on.
/u/ArthurShelby
2 points
2 years ago
Yeah I figure it's real, part of me was just hoping we'd been misinformed... I really appreciate you posting this for everyone.
/u/Infinitylove2323
1 points
2 years ago
They have some details on clickondetroit Victor Hernandez, they have been investigated since 2018. Mainly a couple women doing the leg work and using same post office and going inside with large trash bags
/u/LifeSucksDie
1 points
2 years ago
Another fallen Angel lost to the horrible war on drugs. As much as I wanted to do business with him, I'm glad now that I never pulled that trigger. Sucks because he was very well known on the Darknet and helped feed many mouths. I look forward to reading what went wrong with his Op. I wish him, his family, and anyone close to him a safe future. Clean house and get a lawyer on retainer if you haven't done so already
/u/onionsoup
1 points
2 years ago
you should always have a clean house anyway, what is the point in Dark OPSec if your physical is neglected!!
/u/rambouk2uk P
1 points
2 years ago
100% friend :)
how can someone sleep in a dirty house
/u/cs162511
1 points
2 years ago
this shit is rediculous. thanks for the news HB
/u/BlackLotus
1 points
2 years ago
no way... RIP bro fuck
/u/1of1Ninja
1 points
2 years ago
Truly sad, he was a top vendor. I've never used him because I wasn't a huge fan of his press but he was a straight up guy and always honest. Going to be a interesting read when the news does come out. I would love to know how big of a operation our friend really had.

Hope nothing but the best for OP.

1of1Ninja
/u/Evaluation2
1 points
2 years ago
Opioids are on climax
/u/Infinitylove2323
1 points
2 years ago
/u/HugBunter news has dropped
/u/didimau
1 points
2 years ago
Share?
/u/sakchaser
1 points
2 years ago
RIP Opiateconnect, sad asf

Thank you for your headsup HugBunter!
/u/rooflyn
1 points
2 years ago
i ordered from his onion site opiate3qcnt63bb2bmdzsfg6el6trbzdwoxccij6ciye5cebpg4fgiad.onion on monday and my package was marked as shipped but i never recieved any updates on informed dilivery, am i fucked out the 400 bars i bought?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
You were fucked anyway because his shop was taken over by the developer to steal all of the funds. This happened about a month ago and he was no longer using the shop, where did you even find the link or did you have it saved? Refer to my post in /d/hellcat
/u/rooflyn
1 points
2 years ago
i saved the link in my files with my pin and account info opiate3qcnt63bb2bmdzsfg6el6trbzdwoxccij6ciye5cebpg4fgiad.onion
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
2 years ago
Make sure to always check up on the latest news on Dread, unfortunate but yeah hellcat stole your coin. On the bright side its better than potentially handing your deliver to the feds if he was still in operation of his shop.
/u/rooflyn
1 points
2 years ago
so the info i sent thro the site i guess i got scammed from did not get to oc and i should be safe of my info?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
Absolutely
/u/rooflyn
1 points
2 years ago
SEPTEMBER UPDATE
Business as usual. was updated today
/u/nameisborat
1 points
2 years ago
i wanna note that i would get my large parcels from A COMPLETELY DIFFERent STATE IN A DIFFErent reGION i suspect opiateconnect was the man behind the computer the whole time like bobafet had others doing his dirty work..... My two cents.
/u/aspoonandafork
3 points
2 years ago
Well ain't that something? This would make a lot of sense because I can't imagine opiateconnect being this careless. Holy shit, walking into the post office with multiple garbage bags full of packs?!? Is this a joke? There's no possible way that these are the people behind the storefront and the dark web sales.

Plus, it's kind of suspect that there's literally ZERO electronic surveillance of his dark web activity and/or the flow of money. Where's the money laundering charge?

Something doesn't smell right.
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
2 points
2 years ago
This only suggests that they didn't get access to his data... yet at least. The indictment will probably remain sealed, where the actual info of all of this will stay buried.
/u/nameisborat
1 points
2 years ago
Opiateconnect cleaned house and flew to thailand for vacation he will be back watch. He definately was on shipping big packs somewhere very souuth mof michigan
/u/Phoenix1017
1 points
2 years ago
Hmm that’s interesting. Can anyone else confirm that OC369 doesn’t ship from this location..? Maybe he used to ship from somewhere else and moved to current location? I mean they did get the pill press, pills, coke, packaging, electronics ect. After years of surveillance you would think they had this case completely buttoned up and figured out. I just don’t see how OC the boss would be in a completely different state running his operation and these guys were just his grunts. More likely could be a reshipper lived in a different state and sent our packs for OC. After all this time seems the feds would have known. These guys aern’t idiots and have very sophisticated equipment and techniques at their disposal.

At the end of the day I never bought from him but never heard of him being known for great OPSEC particularly. Just a long time, fast, reliable shipper with quality presses.

Still this is pretty horrible though. He was on dread a good bit so you would think he knew about blue boxes ect.

A lot I don’t understand here.
/u/azfphree
1 points
2 years ago
feds been playing the long game on this one..

in 2018 ... identified Victor HERNANDEZ, et al., of Detroit, Michigan as operating as large-scale dark web drug vendor “opiateconnect”.
/u/taigahunter
1 points
2 years ago
Fucking god damn feds. "TAYLOR was executing counter-surveillance techniques." Shit fills me with so much anger
/u/taigahunter
1 points
2 years ago
Absolutely unbelievable. The failures in the most basic opsec on full display. This should be a case study. What a hell of a situation.
/u/asfaleia
2 points
2 years ago
To make an OpSec failure one must have an OpSec first. This is was obviously not the case. There was no OpSec.
/u/darknetekona
1 points
2 years ago
how confident or reliable is this Information ?
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
100% now that the news articles have been published..
/u/darknetekona
0 points
2 years ago
where else has it been published on ?

rather than being on dread and darknetlive ?


asking all this because I'm seeing this for my first time .
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
1 points
2 years ago
There is a detroit news site that published the info, also linked in my post. The information is from the criminal complaint documents being released publicly. There will be bigger news sites picking it up shortly, probably preparing it with comments from involved agencies and so on, the documents were only released today.
/u/darknetekona
1 points
2 years ago
okay..
sounds convincing
I'll see into this and if true
then thanks for such a helpful update.. ;)
/u/HugBunter 📢 A
3 points
2 years ago
Its literally the documents from the courts...
/u/jethro23
1 points
2 years ago
Do you not know how to read? I cant tell if youre trolling or serious but if serious then how do to tie your shoes in the morning with that stupidity
/u/darknetekona
-1 points
2 years ago
is this really referring to me or someone else ?

or your indirectly a clown looking for something to make fun of ?😒
/u/strace
1 points
2 years ago
Because you'd never heard of an affidavit.
/u/Numbdo
1 points
2 years ago
That's fucking crazy thought someone bringing that man packs in was a joke. Just imagine watching someone walking into the store with that many packs
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
After reading the complaint it seems obvious to me that he should have closed up shop as soon as he noticed a few domestic packages go missing which doesn't really happen too often. Stay vigilant everyone.

Edit: I haven't read the 2018 complaint yet
/u/where_is_sunny
2 points
2 years ago
Exactly right. Too many times we see people chalk up "lost" packages to the USPS gods and figure its nothing. While mail does get lost, it is not very frequent. Sunny had packs the disappear the year leading up to his disappearance - including a large batch of custies who reported no packs received I think the october before his disappearance.

NPRX had same thing happen. I remember reading in the complaint that they followed him to PO, snatched up the packs he dropped, and they let the Express packs continue on but I think they seized the non express packs.

We should already know this by now but the OC bust should show that the feds are a set of patient motherfuckers. They had OC identified so long ago!!! 4 years!!! Sure those fuckers were laughing each time OC employed counter measures thinking "yeah we already know who you are." Fuck. 4 fucking years.

There is only 1 reason they took 4 fucking years. Its to start arresting others. Most investigations into DNM vendors seem to be 1-2 years, at most. The feds had what they needed to charge OC I'm sure within a year. They are gonna be kicking in many other doors now. Did OC vend in bulk?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
2 years ago
Excellent points. I'm not sure if he vended in bulk or not as I never dealt with him before. However, if anybody was buying anything more than what a normal individual would consider personal use amounts I would close up shop for a long while and warn anybody I did business with in person offline as to what's going on so they can watch their asses too. Feds are patient motherfuxkers indeed
/u/socat2me
1 points
2 years ago
Seems like they'd rather keep the more interesting details to themselves, they were pretty thorough in establishing probable cause just based on the surveillance they were conducting.
/u/aspoonandafork
1 points
2 years ago
Talk about getting caught in 8k, if you google maps the addresses in the filing you'll see the defendants cars in the images. Specifically the blue ford fusion and the red chevy trailblazer. All the feds had to do was google the spots and boom there's your suspect's vehicle.

Fucking SLOPPY!
/u/elbanditodetortilla
1 points
2 years ago
this entire operation was sloppy from the looks of it. amazes us that the connect would stay around a customer moving like this.
/u/aspoonandafork
1 points
2 years ago
seriously, sloppy as hell from top to bottom...i don't think any of those arrested are really opiateconnect though, apparently his large packs were shipped from a totally different state and c'mon can you seriously imagine one of the biggest vendors on the dark web being this oblivious and idiotic? It doesn't add up but still surprising whoevers at the top was still dealing with these clowns.
/u/striphouseusa
1 points
2 years ago
Feds probably got a hard on once opiateconnect started offering cocaine. Sad story, stay safe everyone
/u/BlackLotus
1 points
2 years ago
This was a very sad read. Please never EVER develop a false sense of security. Always do the absolute maximum to prevent these feds from catching on. It is strange why they waited so long.. perhaps they paid off the police.. but regardless..

OpiateConnect
Fullbars

EDIT: FOR GODS SAKE CAN I GET PICTURES THAT R OBVIOUS AS TO WHICH WAY IT SHOULD BE RIGHT SIDE UP?

who to purchase from next?
/u/vitaeunsogno
1 points
2 years ago
i concur your edit 1000%
/u/myd1ck
1 points
2 years ago
Victimless crimes should not be punishable.
/u/notacopsta
-1 points
2 years ago
Opioids aren't victimless no matter what you say.
/u/barbarbinks
2 points
2 years ago
Drugs are like anything else, just stigmatized. Based on your logic, would you say that selling alcohol isn't a victimless crime? Is selling guns? There's a pretty big line between turning someone into a victim and selling someone something that they choose to use.
/u/winkingcherub
1 points
2 years ago
I dunno if it's all that black and white, I think you can choose to purchase something and still become a victim. Opioids definitely aren't victimless. None of this is to say I'm against the notion of an open and free market, but becoming a victim is a pretty easy thing to have happen irrespective of the freedom of choice.
/u/barbarbinks
1 points
2 years ago
That's fair. Life is rarely black and white. I do acknowledge that opioids in particular have disproportionately been used to create addicts and victims. I still think it's there's a difference between selling someone something that can be harmful versus victimizing or preying on someone with opioids or anything else
/u/winkingcherub
1 points
2 years ago
Yeah, and as I'm reading it again, your point is well taken. It was a bit naive of me not to account for the more obvious factor of "was someone preying on someone else", relating to punishments.
/u/barbarbinks
3 points
2 years ago
Wow, I've never had such a cordial conversation online. And about the ethics of opioids no less. And I agree with you still that there are definitely victims purchasing opioids and it has been easily used to victimize innocents. I love this place.
/u/throaway999999
1 points
2 years ago*
he didn't sell opiods you dumb fuck. he sold clonazaxans and later on he sold coke. not fucking opiates. that was just a really dumb name to choose for what he was doing so stfu.
/u/myd1ck
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/baisesk
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/Phoenix1017
1 points
2 years ago
Ummm it’s called drive around the city and drop it in blue boxes that do not have any surveillance nearby.. with legit return addresses…wow. No intelligent vendor is setting foot within 5 miles of a post office with packs…
/u/xxanman
1 points
2 years ago
do you think people that just only ordered small packages will be safe
/u/aspoonandafork
1 points
2 years ago
100% I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep. They don't have the resources or the motivation to go after someone who ordered a few small packs. Not worth it for the department. They want to find large quantities of drugs or cash, that's it. You're small potatoes.
/u/okome133
1 points
2 years ago
dont sweat it, you are 1 of 1000's of customers, lol took them 4 years to bust a vendor this large and somewhat careless. They are not spending any amount of time on anyone for personal quantities.
/u/kinkykonggg
1 points
2 years ago
It's funny when you compare what you would have suspected his opsec to be, compared to what it was. I'd be curious how common this is.
/u/sillyapple
1 points
2 years ago
I would wager alot of vendors simply just use tor broser on windows lol. In my mind i see them as some sort of top dog who have there shit together but judging by the busts this is never the case
/u/FireUsa
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/HugBunter 📢 A
5 points
2 years ago
Usually wouldn't allow this, but go for it, whatever
/u/FireUsa
1 points
2 years ago
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/u/RxRonin
1 points
2 years ago
$175 per OC80? that's a complete trash price, I can get OC80s for $75 each from raccooncity
/u/FireUsa
1 points
2 years ago
welp maybe ill bring the price down to 100-120
/u/dreadydady42
1 points
2 years ago
thanks for the updates
/u/DWdenizen777
1 points
2 years ago
That's unbelievable, thanks for sharing.
/u/plkqcs
1 points
2 years ago
Thank you
/u/ThreeBs
1 points
2 years ago*
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/u/ThreeBs
1 points
2 years ago*
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/u/trippymane
-1 points
2 years ago
Wow...

Just Wow..

LOL. Its fuck america. The cartel run the police now? they knew exactly who this was since 2018. That bitch is gonnneeeeeee lol , new wig and out the country right now?



It was bound to happen, America is a failed police state lol
/u/blaumpsous
2 points
2 years ago
Unfortunately, it is becoming a very successful police state.

'The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.'
--- Noam Chomsky