URGENT: BANNED ALLIN1SHOP ON ARCHETYP : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets
Hello All Archetyp,
I want to bring to your attention that ASNT and Archetyp have banned our vendor account (Allin1shop) for one reason: I wrote 16 fake feedbacks at the beginning of our journey in August, about five months ago. I did this based on advice from another vendor, thinking it would make my shop appear more legitimate. Indeed, this is not how I intended to operate, and I never thought my actions would negatively affect my customers. I have always been fair and legitimate in my dealings and have never intended to scam anyone. With 3,500 sales and over 2,600 positive reviews, I believe my success ratio speaks for itself.
Now, ASNT is using this as a reason to withhold my funds of €28,000 and prevent me from shipping my parcels, which puts me in a difficult financial position.
To summarize, the Archetyp staff decided to ban my account and provided this as their only clarification: "u/handsbal, because of the fake orders you made from yourself with the same account you just wrote this public forum reply, super smart. Also, it's off topic, don't spam the forum with your shit." This feels incredibly unfair, especially since I’m now facing significant losses. (you can look at it on the forum section under; "expanding market")
I also want to point out that I did not receive a single warning before this action was taken. I resolved all disputes as quickly as possible and even reshipped many orders, even when customers were not entitled to refunds because they ordered items in an envelope with stamps. With this decision, Archetyp has lost a dedicated vendor who consistently handled orders and a great customer service.
It’s disheartening to announce this, especially knowing that over 150 parcels cannot be shipped and that 150 customers have lost their money due to this policy.
The only reason I can think of for this ban is a discussion I had with the staff in December 2024 regarding their new policy of requiring vendors to be active for two years with a dispute ratio of 1.5% to receive full exposure. While I understand the need for a dispute ratio, requiring two years of activity is unreasonable and unfair. Many users of this platform are aware that most markets either exit scam or face legal issues.
I hope for my customers that this situation can be solved because a lot people lost their money! And i hope we can do something to this problem on the whole Darkweb!
Kind regards,
Allin1shop
of course I'm pissed if you abuse my forum, now I'm in the situation: Should I delete your off topic and then you cry "THEY CENSOR AFTER SCAMMING" or I let it stand for now and people think "Bad moderation in this forum, why I'm even paying my taxes", so you see, you put me in a loss loss situation, thanks for that. Anyways, now that we are on dread at least we gain a bit exposure from you, to make up for the time of mine you are wasting.
Lies! You faked 17 and not 16 feedbacks. See, we can not really trust a vendor who lied once because you will lie in the future, whenever you can take advantage by a lie, you will lie, we can no longer trust you. DNM have some pillars, one big pillar is trust, without trust nothing would work, now that you took a sledgehammer and destroyed the trust pillar how can our relationship ever be the same again? If you cheat on your wife, would she ever trust you again? Only if she is super stupid but I'm not your wife and I'm only moderately stupid, so I won't. In other words: trust ship sunk and lays next to the titanic and a Xbox controller on the bottom of the ocean.
Escrow money:
You will still get all your funds in escrow that customers release towards you
All your customers will get a refund for "new and accepted" orders, orders shipped will get refunded if they dispute, if they finalize you will get the funds.
Tip: Why not withdraw your 28k more often, also on your next alt just use the auto withdrawal function so you never get into this position.
Why did we look into your account?
Another vendor who we banned snitched on you, probably the same vendor who gave you this advice. No worries, he also got banned for faking reviews.
Why no warning?
Warnings are for small things, abusing trust means ban. If I exit scam Archetyp today and come back with Archetyp 2, would you trust me again? No.
Thanks!
Thanks for the dread post, this helps other vendors by scaring them from breaking rules, as they will know fucking around is not worth the finding out part. It's crazy but the more we ban vendors about "small" things that post in public, the more others fall in line and behave, as it turns out vending on a market like Archetyp is worth it, so better act in your best behavior and make sure you can vend as long as possible.
Edit
One customer who's order was marked shipped on the 7th of February wrote a ticket, stating he received a mail from you that you can not ship his order.
Another customer opened a ticket on the 12th of February being suspicious of you, content boils down to this:
Ordered 26.01
Marked shipped 28.01
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Short demand/PM 06.02 -> No answer
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Longer demand/PM 08.02 -> Answer: "This one was shipped out 3 days later but during that week there was a strike under DHL employees so a lot delays." Whatever the 'three days later' part means exactly... (sounds like it should have been shipped on 29. or 30.01...)
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Arrived 12.02 (Domestic after more than 2 weeks!)
Nothing of value was lost with the ban against you.
you completely ignored:
1. the fact of 2600 positive reviews but wrote a whole paragraph about 17 vs 16 fake reviews
2. please respond to the accusation of new vendors waiting 2 years to get full exposure on the market? what does that mean?
respectfully thank you,
Hooligan007
First, it raises eyebrows that you are considering Finalize after just two years. Many knowledgeable individuals recognize that this could be an attempt to retain more funds in the market. These requirements seem unfair, and I believe that many vendors suspect an exit scam is on the horizon. The reason for my ban is that I was one of the few vendors willing to voice these concerns and engage in a discussion with you about it. When I inquired about Finalize, I felt I had to hold back because it seemed unexpected for a prominent vendor to speak out.
Regarding feedback, I think it's important to acknowledge that the dark web markets have many complexities. It's common knowledge that markets can disappear due to exit scams, and your approach seems to lack the necessary transparency. Trust is hard to come by in this environment, and it’s clear that vendors, markets, and buyers can all be unreliable.
If you finalize transactions, you should be aware that some people extend auto-finalize and may forget to complete their transactions. Additionally, disputes related to reshipments have not been resolved in my favor. It feels as though around €28,000 has been lost due to these issues, particularly with the recent DHL strike in Germany. I cannot afford to reship orders, as that would result in a double loss for me, and many customers are left without their money.
I typically withdraw funds multiple times a day to safeguard against situations like this.
Regarding the issue of fake reviews, it seems unfair to focus on 17 questionable reviews while overlooking the 2,600 positive ones. If I had only a handful of feedback, I could understand a ban, but it appears that you may have acted out of a desire to seize a larger sum of money rather than addressing the situation fairly.
Thank you for your post, though it was disheartening to be banned without any explanation. A warning or a chance to resolve outstanding orders before a ban would have been more appropriate. Instead, it feels like you chose to take the money and run.
The recent strike and the resulting reshipments have led to misunderstandings about my performance. However, anyone can see that a vendor with around 1,000 sales a month and 700 positive reviews, offering a wide range of products, is valuable to the market.
Now this counts as shitty behavior: If a market doesn't do what I want (give me FE privileges) they must be preparing for an exit scam, right ? Seen this before.
FE is a privilege not a right and most markets give it on case by case basis, sometimes it's a discretionary decision. If you are not comfortable with the amount you have in escrow you can set vacation mode until escrow clears.
Can't comment on feedback padding as markets deal with rule violations how they see fit, different markets different rules different actions taken but I am yet to see someone banned "without reason".
FE is a privilege not a right and most markets give it on case by case basis, sometimes it's a discretionary decision. If you are not comfortable with the amount you have in escrow you can set vacation mode until escrow clears.
-> I want to clarify that my earlier comments were about the lack of early finalization for larger vendors, who often have to sell for two years before seeing any benefits. I expressed my concerns, but it felt like my voice was silenced in private messages because I was perceived as complaining too much. As a vendor with around 30,000 to 50,000 euros in escrow, I believe it's a significant risk.
-> While it's true that you can set your account to vacation mode, we are all here to make money, and we know the importance of maximizing our earnings as quickly as possible, especially with the scrutiny from authorities. If I’ve been dealing in opiates for a year and face legal consequences, I can’t tell the judge that I was only active for seven months because I had too much money in escrow during the other months. My goal is to work hard for two to three years and then step back.
-> Additionally, when shipping for 30,000 euros, you constantly need to reinvest your money. This can be particularly challenging in the beginning, as I often find myself needing to purchase rare products. I have to buy everything I can get because suppliers will sell to someone else if I hesitate. As a result, I estimate that I need around 100,000 to 150,000 euros to reinvest effectively. This is another important point to consider.
Can't comment on feedback padding as markets deal with rule violations how they see fit, different markets different rules different actions taken but I am yet to see someone banned "without reason".
- >I admit that I expressed my frustration earlier, and I understand that my ban may not have been without reason. However, I find it unfair that someone's inventory, company, stock, client base, and good reputation can be taken away over a tax bill of just 1,000 euros in the real world. It's like the government seizing your car simply for ignoring a red light. While there are consequences for mistakes, the severity of the punishment feels disproportionate. Similarly, as ASNT mentioned, if your wife cheats on you, it can lead to a breakdown of trust. If your wife likes a good-looking person on Instagram, it might prompt you to end a two-year marriage, leaving behind four children and your home. What I want to emphasize is that there should be gradations in punishments or sentences.
Regardless, I am determined to achieve great success in this market! I have only written positive reviews about your familiarity with WHM, and I see that he was the only admin who did not engage in an exit scam. If that’s the case, I believe we can succeed together without toxic admins who abuse their power! To show my appreciation, I would like to offer every buyer in my shop on Drughub a 15% discount for the next five days!"
Sherlock crossed our plans, what will we do now.
> First, it raises eyebrows that you are considering Finalize after just two years.
Yeah, because vendors like you who fake feedback can get to the 500 sales in a couple weeks, no shit, go and try to fake 2 years. Now what? How will you argue against this?
> Many knowledgeable individuals recognize that this could be an attempt to retain more funds in the market.
Many knowledgeable individuals recognize that this could be an attempt to reduce vendors from scamming.
> I believe that many vendors suspect an exit scam is on the horizon.
I believe that DeSnake will come back and refund everyone, anyways I wonder why you think this, AFTER you were banned, all is fine till you get banned, then you post on dread: EXIT SCAM IS ON THE HORIZON. What is this logic? Like if you suspect an exit scam, would you not close your store and fuck off to greener pastures before it happens?
> The reason for my ban is that I was one of the few vendors willing to voice these concerns and engage in a discussion with you about it.
No, that is not the reason. The reason is you faking feedback.
> Regarding feedback, I think it's important to acknowledge that the dark web markets have many complexities. It's common knowledge that markets can disappear due to exit scams, and your approach seems to lack the necessary transparency. Trust is hard to come by in this environment, and it’s clear that vendors, markets, and buyers can all be unreliable.
So we are the nontransparent and unreliable because you faked feedback?
> It feels as though around €28,000 has been lost due to these issues, particularly with the recent DHL strike in Germany. I cannot afford to reship orders, as that would result in a double loss for me, and many customers are left without their money.
Like I said before, you will get your money. Customers will also get refunds in case they do not receive their orders. You stay banned however.
> Regarding the issue of fake reviews, it seems unfair to focus on 17 questionable reviews while overlooking the 2,600 positive ones
> questionable
> questionable
Come on.
> The recent strike and the resulting reshipments have led to misunderstandings about my performance. However, anyone can see that a vendor with around 1,000 sales a month and 700 positive reviews, offering a wide range of products, is valuable to the market.
Yes, of course you are valuable to Archetyp and it hurts that we had to ban you, however our integrity is worth more than any money we could earn from your commissions.
->Haha! Everyone is aware of the statistics here—we achieved approximately 3,500 to 4,000 sales in just four months. It's clear that we are on another level, offering products that have never been seen on the market at such competitive prices.
-> Is it really reasonable to think I would scam you, or somebody else? Given that I have 2,700 positive reviews and only 5 to 10 negative ones? I could earn far more by building a reputable market over the course of a year than by risking my €28,000 escrow for a quick gain. To put it into perspective, that would mean I’d be stealing €56,000, which is not feasible since domestic transactions typically can't be processed for longer than 10 to 12 days. This amount is insignificant compared to what we earn in just one or two months, and every vendor understands this as well.
I believe that DeSnake will come back and refund everyone, anyways I wonder why you think this, AFTER you were banned, all is fine till you get banned, then you post on dread: EXIT SCAM IS ON THE HORIZON. What is this logic? Like if you suspect an exit scam, would you not close your store and fuck off to greener pastures before it happens?
-> The logic behind banning me while holding €28,000 in escrow is flawed. I previously mentioned on your forum that we wanted to apply for early finalize status, but now you've changed the requirement to two years instead of one or nine months. Claiming that I faked 500 feedbacks is simply not true. If your criteria are one year, a 1.5% dispute ratio, and 2,000 sales, then a vendor who consistently sells for a year with a low dispute ratio and over 2,000 sales deserves early finalize status or a shorter auto-finalize timeframe. Additionally, disputes take an excessive amount of time to resolve, which means that a significant amount of funds remain tied up in the market.
No, that is not the reason. The reason is you faking feedback.
-> In my view, there is no justification for stealing someone’s €28,000. As vendors, we all understand that unforeseen circumstances can arise, such as shipping delays. While we strive to dispatch orders the next day after marking them as shipped, it’s possible that there may be a delay of one or even two days. We are still an organization, and external issues, like a DHL strike or other disruptions, can lead to parcel delays. This situation ultimately results in customers losing their orders and funds from 11.02 till 15.02.
So we are the nontransparent and unreliable because you faked feedback?
->I appreciate your transparency and reliability in banning vendors who fake feedback or engage in scams. I completely agree with this approach. However, you know that these issues arose in August, and as I explained, it wouldn’t make sense for me to steal €3,000 in revenue.
Like I said before, you will get your money. Customers will also get refunds in case they do not receive their orders. You stay banned however.
-> I have no issue with remaining banned indefinitely, but you must take responsibility for refunding all customers. I haven’t had the opportunity to determine which orders were shipped because I lack the necessary data. I had planned to ship yesterday, but that wasn’t possible, and since February 11th, no orders have been dispatched. As a result, around 150 different customers are left without their funds or products. This is unacceptable! You had to give me the change to figure out which orders are shipped out or not. We dont have access to the data, so we can't do nothing!
Yes, of course you are valuable to Archetyp and it hurts that we had to ban you, however our integrity is worth more than any money we could earn from your commissions.
->I'm sure I bring value, but it seems (in your eyes) your customers not. And that value i will bring from tomorrow to DrugHub! If you were truly transparent, you would seek a solution rather than coldly banning me, which puts customers at risk of losing their parcels. As I’ve mentioned before, every DW admin knows that when vendors mark orders as shipped, external issues or delays can cause them to take an additional day or two. In this case, customers who ordered between February 11th and 15th have lost their money because you chose not to pursue a solution.
Seeing as how archetyp market will be five years old in 3 months it seems like the window for an early exit scam long since passed them by.