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This is just a reminder to everyone to use Monero whenever they can. It is in our power as a community to change the mainstream behavior.

Are you a DNM administrator?
Only provide Monero payment option if you can. If Monero is optional, determine an action plan to switch to Monero only infrastructure and work with the community during the transition phase.

Are you a vendor?
Only accept Monero payments.

Are you a buyer?
Tell your vendor you'll only buy from them if they start accepting Monero.

Are you a malware developer?
Go fuck yourself and afterwards request any type of ransom, payment etc. in Monero.

Are you a fraud?
Go fuck yourself and after you are done fraud your victims with Monero.

Are you a creator?
Accept donations in Monero only.

Are you a shit poster or a connoisseur of dank memes?
Whenever some asks just say "use Monero". Make it "install gentoo" of cryptocurrency. And shit post and create memes about Monero.

Are you trying to smuggle money out of a country?
Smuggle that shit in Monero.

Are you a pedophile?
Go seek clinical help and pay your therapist with Monero.

Are you a drug dealer?
Talk to your guy about Monero and make him talk to his guy about Monero, so the guy before the kingpin can talk to the kingpin about Monero. Use Monero, be different from other drug dealers, be an innovative drug dealer, be the Uber of drug dealing.

Are you the finance guy in an organized crime group?
Pay your guys with Monero.

Do you have a sugar daddy?
Make your sugar daddy give you money in Monero.

Are you a hitman?
What the fuck dude? At least accept your payment in Monero you cold hearted bastard.

Are you a crypto shill on social media?
Shill Monero. Monero is the shit.

And whoever you are...
STOP fucking using Bitcoin. It's 2019. We have better options. Just stop it. Fuck Bitcoin. Enough with that shit.

And don't forget people. Monero is Monero because Monero Moneros the motherfucking Monero. Hell yeah, Monero the Monero baby. Monero it until you can't Monero nomore. Monero. Yes, definitely.

Monero with Monero,

- ILoveBigDongs3000

/u/naknaka

12 points

6 years ago

This thread +10.

/u/NBASpy

2 points

6 years ago

I heard on a darkweb chinese hacking forum that monero is a secret to even the CIA. How do I install Monero?

/u/shieldedo

4 points

6 years ago

Couldn't that merely be counterintelligence? as the US intelligence agencies practically run the world. i'm sure they know everything about everything. I'm sure they have software/algorithms (highly complex ones) that knows everyone who uses Linux, Tor, Darknet, all the crypto currencies (where they go and where they come from). The only reason they dont catch these DNM vendors is because in the court of law they would have to have the traditional evidence that the courts require. They can't just be like "oh we used this highly sophisticated AI to track this illegal internet drug dealer to obtain the evidence that he's guilty" of course that's illegal on their part. so that's my take on the whole OPSEC thing, you do it because the Gov. can't prosecute you illegally.

/u/NBASpy

1 points

6 years ago

I was trying to be funny. I'm sorry. I'll send my biggest monero wallet to Shia Labeouf so he can spend it on things as penance

/u/naknaka

1 points

6 years ago*

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0 points

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/u/naknaka

1 points

6 years ago

Try to start with /d/Monero - I tried to put here a link, but it got removed. I thought that you can post url for another subdread or thread from Dread, I guess not.

/u/FrankWhite

3 points

6 years ago*

Yes but if a vendor switches BTC off and only allows XMR they lose the majority of their sales.

The only sensible option for a vendor on a multi-coin market is to accept both.

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

4 points

6 years ago*

That's why the ultimate solution is markets only allowing XMR payments. What vendors can do they can make their XMR prices 10% lower for instance and markets might start incentives where they apply 0% fee policy for XMR payments etc. It is possible, all we need is to act as a community. I would prefer to be secure rather than richer. It is all about changing people's behavior, making Monero the default payment method instead of BTC.

/u/dankservices

3 points

6 years ago

already bitcoin fees are rising, the markets charges anyone withdrawing the fee to withdraw

using monero is already much cheaper in fees, only .02 cents to send in comparison to $2-5 bitcoin fees

/u/piefucker

1 points

6 years ago

I would but I hear monero is only for tally-wackers, whats wrong with the ether, isn't that the shit coin all the gay aliens lovers are on?

/u/FrankWhite

2 points

6 years ago

They just end up being too niche though.. look at Libertas.. XMR only and now they have alienated themselves even more by switching to I2P.

I'm all for it but not when nobody (or a very small percentage) is buying with it.

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

4 points

6 years ago

And if we don't do anything nothing will ever change. And we will make LE happy by providing them with easily traceable currency. That's why I use a title like "Use Monero, motherfucker." to bring attention.
Talk about Monero, whenever, wherever. If you are hustling, tell your customer next time they are buying if they buy with Monero you'll give them a small freebie or something. Everything helps, even if it is little. We need to shift away from "BTC as a default payment method" mentality for a better, safer DNM environment.

/u/FrankWhite

1 points

6 years ago

A "discount for paying with XMR" (or any coin) on the market's is a good idea.

I notice on Cryptonia you can offer a discount for BTC multisig.. maybe raise it with their support as it won't be hard to implement for BTC and XMR. I'd defiantly use it. If a few of us ask for the feature maybe.. support seems pretty responsive.

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

2 points

6 years ago

Yeah when you think about it, you can count that discount for all the tumbling expenses. With XMR you don't have to tumble shit.

/u/FrankWhite

2 points

6 years ago*

Not only that but the fees are smaller which make a difference with wallet-less systems, especially for micro transactions.

/u/Euphorium

2 points

6 years ago

This would be a fantastic feature.

/u/FrankWhite

1 points

6 years ago

I've requested it on their forum and also in their sub here.

/u/tawdryabounding

1 points

6 years ago

I actually do this ^^^

I offer customers discounts or even freebies if they wish to essentially pay with crypto. XMR is always preferred.

People seem to dig it, they can pay before they show up, no cash in hand transaction required, we both walk away happy.

/u/wekhiu48

2 points

6 years ago

yeah they probably should not have switched to i2p entierly. They should have left an onion service up as well.

/u/XaviTheChemist

1 points

6 years ago

whats wrong or difficult about i2p? IMO its better to stay away from the noobs that ruin our opsec.

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

4 points

6 years ago

It's niche. That's what's wrong with it. Average customer doesn't give two fucks about opsec, they are just looking to get high not play "1337 h4xx0r" with the LE. That's why I am advocating for "secure/private by default", because not every user knows how to do it right. Security should be there by default and ideally it should be transparent, which means you should not be able to feel that it is there (e.g. Encrypting messages with PGP nightmare). Monero is niche, I2P is even nicher. Changing mainstream behavior requires constant and determined effort from everyone. You can maybe convince everyone to use XMR, but you can't also convince them to use I2P at the same time. People are lazy, intrinsically they don't want to change.

/u/ticklesmyPickles

1 points

6 years ago

i like you +1

/u/XaviTheChemist

1 points

6 years ago

If you care so much don't use the market and/or start your own. Who the fuck cares if they use i2p, its their choice. If they'd rather stay over there and not worry about people who can't put the 10 minutes in to figuring it out so be it. They likely really do not care about all the users unwilling to figure it out.

People have been calling for i2p markets for quite some time. As soon as someone does it, we lose our minds. Can't make anyone happy lol.

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

3 points

6 years ago

I don't have any issue with I2P markets. I think it's good a idea to not to put all eggs in one basket. We never know what might happen to Tor tomorrow.

But XMR vs. BTC is not like Tor vs. I2P. XMR has to be the primary way of doing anything money related in the underground. BTC is not secure and has to go. People are saying they won't do block chain analysis for small fish. But those kind of "assumptions" have no place in OPSEC. You are either secure or not, "there is no try".

/u/FrankWhite

1 points

6 years ago

What's wrong with it is the majority of people don't or won't use it. It's just another traffic limiting thing, just like accepting only one coin... I agree the technologies are fine, and that XMR is a great option.. but don't want to sit on a market getting few sales due to all these factors. I love the idea of Libertas, but it's not practical.

/u/XaviTheChemist

1 points

6 years ago

Yes it is...and you can have vendor accounts on multiple markets if you so wish. People will figure out i2p once all these tor markets are shuttered.

/u/FrankWhite

1 points

6 years ago*

It just doesn't seem like paying for an account on right now is worth it.. each to their own. Practical for buyers that actually use XMR and XMR enthusiasts.

/u/GreenSupreme

2 points

6 years ago

Amen, bro!

/u/getupstandup9090

1 points

6 years ago

I like this idea

/u/DMTinBUTT

1 points

6 years ago

Do you know how to get sales fast? Just go up to every person in a bar or club and offer to sell. Also make a post on facebook. Do you know what that leads to? JAIL.

Using Bitcoin has lead to people going to jail.

Its just that easy. Some people do sell drugs on facebook. They don't last.

/u/FrankWhite

1 points

6 years ago*

This isn't going anywhere, we get it.. some of you want everyone using monero... you're doing a bad job of trying to explain views while being patronizing. I accept both BTC and XMR but I'm not losing the majority of sales to be in some elite XMR club.. get real..

You can clean any coins with a bit of common sense. Worse than crack pushers.. alt coin pushers.

Not saying it's bad, but shoving it down people's throats who have clearly already weighed up the options is just annoying.

It's not a popular coin with buyers...

/u/DMTinBUTT

2 points

6 years ago

Yes you can clean BTC and get rid of tainted coins, and it is great that you do.

It is clearly not something that everyone does or gets right consistently, as is evident by a WSM admin buying a video game with coins from the DNM wallet.

If a vendor fucks up then they fuck it up for all of their buyers for the duration that they are under surveillance.

Every buyer that fucks up makes it that much harder to clean the coins that they have used to buy drugs with.

Accepting bitcoin is OK if you know what you are doing. As a whole, for the whole DNM scene it is not OK because people are idiots. They do not know what they are doing and eventually everyone will make a mistake.

It is going to get harder and harder to un-taint bitcoins.

For a buyer it is really hard to differentiate between someone who knows what is up and a vendor that will keep their address in a notepad so that they can send them their wickr details a year after they order.

You might be safe but idiot vendors and buyers hurt us all and there are a fuck ton of both.

/u/FrankWhite

1 points

6 years ago

Yeah I fully agree with all your points, the switch over to XMR exclusively though is almost impossible unless you're happy with losing a lot of money and regular customers. I'd be perfectly happy if all markets forced XMR only myself, because then buyer will be forced to learn it like they did when they first discovered bitcoin markets. Markets won't do it for the same reasons I mention though, bar Libertas but the others would have to remove coins or even add XMR.

/u/mandala-lama

3 points

6 years ago

I've said this so many times now.. It's truly absurd that bitcoin is used AT ALL on dark web markets. It's literally stupid. The dumbest thing I can think of and an OpSec failure by default.

I want to add, as I've posted elsewhere - if you have a vendor and they don't currently accept monero, than convince them to. It's a really.fucking.easy.argument... And yet people aren't doing it.

Just look at EVERY DWM INDICTMENT ever.. For anyone - buyers, vendors, admins, devs.. Every one of them involves bitcoin blockchain analysis. It was always a key used to bring them down.

If you use bitcoin, you better have every single other OpSec vulnerability on lockdown, or else all the feds need to do is want to bring you down. With the resources they have, if they want to find you, they're going to start with finding your btc. And it's very likely they will. Thankfully, most people on markets aren't being hunted.

From what I've seen, this is the order of precedent for DWM targets:
1. Vendor owners/admins/devs
2. Anyone selling fentanyl (catching a fent vendor is really great media.. and the feds need great media these days).
3. Meth/Xanax vendors (yes, xanax... if you're paying attention, Xanax is following the same trend that oxycontin did. Xanax is the drug super villain in the media right now - and large suppliers ARE targets. Bigly.)
4. Every other known "harmful" substance large supplier.
5. Buyers who buy in bulk (assumption: distribution. reason: drugs on the table, asset forfeiture).

And way at the bottom is the lowly personal use buyer who keeps quiet and doesn't act stupid.

Lastly, anyone in that list using bitcoin (or litecoin, or any other public ledger) moves directly to the top of the target list, just because they're so much easier to pick off.

Blockchain analysis companies are sellings for hundreds of millions of dollars - and the reason is this. Because we are still using this on dark web markets.

Ugh.. I've preached this so many times and for so long, it's tiring. But I have convinced my vendors to switch. And you not only should, but you have a duty to.

That is all.

/u/picklericky

2 points

6 years ago

give me an easy source where i can trade btc to xmr

/u/ceramicoutdent

6 points

6 years ago

Look into wasabi wallet or monero and use these services

flyp.me
xmr.to
changelly
morphtoken
changenow

Use them to go from BTC to Monero, then use xmr.to to go from Monero to Bitcoin.

/u/anon911

1 points

6 years ago

flyp.me changelly and the similiars can NOT be accessed with Tor browser, with current Javascript issue

/u/babohead

2 points

6 years ago

Morphtoken

/u/picklericky

1 points

6 years ago

this site looks pretty easy to use

/u/dickEd

2 points

6 years ago

You can use Exodus wallet to change between Bitcoin (or many other cryptocurrencies) and Monero. It is fast, easy, and Exodus doesn't have any personally identifying information about you.

/u/picklericky

2 points

6 years ago*

i don't really like the idea of downloading an application for that matter... the less stuff on my laptop which can associate me with "online trading" the better IMO

/u/dickEd

2 points

6 years ago

You asked for an easy way to trade between bitcoin and monero...I gave you one.

/u/picklericky

1 points

6 years ago

thanks anyway

/u/alastor

1 points

6 years ago

Out of curiosity, why is it important to you to not be associated with online trading?

/u/Sharpiehigh

2 points

6 years ago

If your doing 'illegal' things on your laptop and dont want to be associated try tails on a usb and only use that for all your shady stuff but your laptop (other os) remains "online trading" free. You can physically hide your shady stuff as a usb can go anywhere

/u/MrBlogical

1 points

6 years ago

is that the exodus.io ?

/u/getupstandup9090

1 points

6 years ago

Agree Exodus and Guarda both have the internal XMR/BTC convert. Exodus only just added monero recently i think.

/u/wekhiu48

1 points

6 years ago

You can try Bisq but admittedly it isn't the easiest. Many of the super easy solutions require things like KYC.

/u/xibit

1 points

6 years ago

Not true. Just use tradeogre via TOR.

/u/wekhiu48

1 points

6 years ago

i will have to check it out thanks. :)

/u/lsd30

1 points

6 years ago

kraken.com
deposit btc and trade to monero. easy.

/u/ceramicoutdent

1 points

6 years ago

KYC?

As far as I know, Binance didn't require verification under 2 BTC / day withdrawal.

/u/sleevey

1 points

6 years ago

How has no noe recommended elude dot in? onion: http://eludemaillhqfkh dot onion/

/u/niceskater

1 points

6 years ago

xmrto2bturnore26 garlic

don't trust anyone
research and verify yourself

/u/getupstandup9090

1 points

6 years ago

Guarda wallet has an internal mechanism in the wallet. Ive successfully used 3 times so far.

/u/GrimWaldo

1 points

6 years ago

If you're using Tails or Whonix there's a great Morphtoken script available on the .onion XMRGuide:
xmrguide42y34onq

Used it a few times now, works great. Quick, simple, and easy to set up. I'm not at all a linux guy, just followed directions.

/u/singleservingfriend

0 points

6 years ago*

vortext wallet go to cloudcare.org (no disappointments)

/u/BirdGod

1 points

6 years ago

Are you a shill? Neutrino is a BCH wallet.

/u/singleservingfriend

1 points

6 years ago*

excuse me vortext BCH is shit I didn't know the dark city aliens got to the brand monero is shit too BTC all day

/u/BirdGod

1 points

6 years ago

Damn you really on some wild shit, don't drop that delicate pipe

/u/buddymorris

2 points

6 years ago

That is funny as fuck mate

/u/[deleted]

2 points

6 years ago

Fuck yeah!!!
Sell me all of your bitcoin via XMR.TO!
From here on out you are only allowed to use XMR for purchases at Synchronizer.

Monero 2020!

/u/PelicanVendor

2 points

6 years ago

Cashing out xmr is much more difficult than cashing out btc. At least for me.

I rather just HODL until lightning adoption for true anon coinjoin

/u/bigpeaches

1 points

6 years ago*

Monero is fantastic, but very few people realize that it's hard for vendors to shed Monero bloat to keep operations running.

Try dumping a truckload of Monero on a big vendor for a large order. Many will not know what the fuck to do with it besides pair up with people to sell for USD cash.

The methods to weave in and out of BTC and Fiat through banking systems are mature. The public BTC Blockchain Ledger can be used to your advantage if you know what you are doing and planted seeds early with banking institutions.

At this point, I would probably be able to slip a lot of Monero through without much scrutiny, but I'm not looking to blaze any trails.

/u/BirdGod

2 points

6 years ago

Why not just use xmr.to to deposit bitcoin to your coinbase/kraken account?

/u/PelicanVendor

1 points

6 years ago

Yeah.... I should just learn web dev shit instead of backend stuff. I could make an onion bitcoin exchange lol btc monero dash ltc just ike the top few cryptos and the anon ones.

/u/mandala-lama

1 points

6 years ago

Lightning won't inherently provide anonymity.

For bitcoin, what you want is a protocol called Mimble Wimble. It's already on the test networks for litecoin, and is highly likely to move to bitcoin after that. It will work like monero - except the privacy layer will be an option.

Enable privacy option, send your coins around and do your thing, move them to a safe location, disable privacy, move to exchange, repeat.

We can't post links here anymore but do a search for it and check it out..

(also, don't use google. use duckduckgo onion link from dark fail onion link)

/u/PelicanVendor

2 points

6 years ago

Well true coinjoin can be built one lightning is going which would be true anonymity I wanna say CoinJoinXT is what I am thinking of but I haven;t looked into it in a few years. Mimble WImble works but higher fees and me sending even 10k can sometimes cost $500 since there are so many input from not consolidating coin from wallets presumed to be watched by feds. Also in no major rush so HODL until lightning is mainstream is fine/\.\\

/u/DMTinBUTT

1 points

6 years ago

consider buying clean BTC and altcoins with Monero.

/u/bonglad014

2 points

6 years ago

Looks like I should start using Monero

/u/angelofdeath666

2 points

6 years ago

how do you download a monero wallet on tails.

/u/GrimWaldo

1 points

6 years ago

Check out the .onion XMRGuide:
xmrguide42y34onq

/u/newbieforever2018 P

1 points

6 years ago

If you are a coinbase or blockchain.com user ask them why they don't support Monero. If you are a hitman take out the pedophile (to Burger King I mean).

/u/figaro

1 points

6 years ago

I agree with your sentiment. One of the big downsides currently with Monero is the complexity of their multisig implementation. It is not scalable and difficult for the average user. Bitcoin's implementation is much easier. But with that being said, it has been shown that people still will use a traditional system where the market controls the coins and not use even Bitcoin multisig. Because of that, the multisig problem with Monero does become a moot point.

I'd say given the various options we have for converting between cryptos, it shouldn't be much an issue to either just always use Monero or have a vendor accept BTC but convert on their own. I agree that BTC, end to end, is not a safe solution. I do believe everyone should use multiple layers of safety so that if one becomes "compromised", they still have another layer of protection. BTC can be used safely, but it is not inherently a privacy centric coin. However, it can still be used to transact, firewalled, and then converted. BTC can still be used as a medium of transfer but I agree, Monero should be playing a big part somewhere. The question is where.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

6 years ago

This is fucking awesome, I love monero and wish there was a monero only market.
As I don't want to get busted when I buy a ounce of weed or some ecstasy.

/u/buddymorris

1 points

6 years ago

There is, Libertas market has been Monero only since its creation i believe

/u/[deleted]

1 points

6 years ago

Okay, but I heard it uses i2p now and I never used i2p before.

/u/buddymorris

1 points

6 years ago

It's quite simple maybe even more simple than tor when it comes to safety settings. where tor is just an anonymous conduit to the clearnet (hidden services were created after) i2p is 100% hidden websites. You cant access the clearnet through i2p. No javascript exploits etc.

/u/FliP

1 points

6 years ago

i2p won't take over until they make it easy for the "average" person to access it. Like TBB.

Until then there's no business there.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

6 years ago

Okay, I might give i2p a try!

/u/Balenciaga Confirmed Market Vendor

1 points

6 years ago

I SUPPORT! and i am always asking for monero!

/u/CasualUser

1 points

6 years ago

Ahh bitcoin, how much I wish you'd die already... I am definitely going to miss your outrageous transaction fees, shitty scalability, and pseudo-anonymity.

/u/datnigga

1 points

6 years ago

lmaooooooooooo

/u/chinachemtech

1 points

6 years ago

very simple solution, use exchanger listed, then have 2-3 monero wallet just tumble monero to a few wallets, then back to btc if you want or keep monero, no way to trace it.

/u/RociNante

1 points

6 years ago

Monero motherfuckers. lmao

/u/AZERTY

1 points

6 years ago

you realize when there's inevitably a flaw found they'll be able to work through the blockchain like any other currency? look at tor, it's fairly secure but there have been flaws. now picture when tor got broken all your browsing history was out there. oops.

so while monero is good, also don't pay for it with anything tied to your real name, and be smart about cashing out as well.

/u/Xantastic5

1 points

6 years ago

Monero is really the shit. I use it all the time. I live and die by the Big M.

/u/d4rkey3

1 points

6 years ago

ok i will even eat some moneros in breakfast dont u worry

/u/TheBiggestBlackestCock

1 points

6 years ago

What if I want to use monero and I'm not a mother fucker. I mean what kind of redneck trailer park Johnny has got a tarp for a pool in the bed of his old truck kinda shit is that. If I blast Sweet home Alabama as I use it does that cancel the prerequisite of fucking my mother . When will monero be coming to a trailer park near you.

/u/exchangecoin

1 points

6 years ago

Some good news, Monero and some other coins (BTC, ETH, USDT, DASH, ZEC, LTC, GRS) you can exchange on TOR network on xchange me TOR Edition, just try xchangen24yn24b6
We are TOR version of xchange me working on clean net, legit company, 1.5 year on the crypto market.

/u/jailsucksletoo

1 points

6 years ago

I have Moneros too...please listen to this guy so I can cash out the failure investment that I've done in that crypto when the price increase for all the useless shill done in this post.

Monero is useless if you are buyer, but let keep this quiet

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

1 points

6 years ago

Monero's main purpose is secure, anonymous transactions which is a must for illegal activities. I am sorry but I cannot afford being rich if the price is going to jail. If you want to play "wall street" there are already plenty options in the world before it comes to Monero. Keep your long term assets in another currency if you want, but do keep your "money for dirty stuff" assets in Monero.

/u/jailsucksletoo

1 points

6 years ago

I was sarcastic.
Monero is useless if you are a buyer for personal or light reselling amounts. Nobody is gonna do an expensive computer investigation to track down your 400€ worth bitcoins that you spend every month or two....to give you a fine of 200€ cuz you like raving on molly. It's worth only for sellers and admins to cash out their money but if my seller starts to accept only moneros I would change seller in no time

/u/ILoveBigDongs3000 📢

1 points

6 years ago

>Nobody is gonna do an expensive computer investigation to track down your 400€ worth bitcoins that you spend every month or two....to give you a fine of 200€ cuz you like raving on molly.
The problem is as time goes on this statement becomes less likely. When you put machine learning into the equation, shit starts to get fast. And when you can't go after the supply, then the most logical choice is to go after the demand. Slaughter the small fish, so the big fish has no reason to continue. Couple of years ago blockchain analysis was like black magic, everybody was saying it was not feasible and so on, now we are seeing it indictments like it's like a regular normal thing. They are going to further optimize their tooling, and when it happens we need to be ready so we won't have to see threads like "OMG GUYS! I AM FUCKED! LE FOUND MY BITCOINS!". Because this is what's likely going to happen. Remember, OPSEC is not retroactive we need to start acting today.

/u/jailsucksletoo

1 points

6 years ago*

even if they can track you coins they can't link them to an actual purchase so it's useless in court
source: I have a law degree
Edit: words

/u/DMTinBUTT

1 points

6 years ago

There are countries that will execute for drugs.

There are EU countries that will give you jail sentences for personal amounts. In practice suspended at first and real jail for repeat. Its still jail and a criminal conviction. Just because you are in NL, Portugal or smoking weed in Cali does not mean everyone is as lucky as you.

Some of us can not afford mistakes or dodge future anti drug politicians.

/u/jailsucksletoo

1 points

6 years ago*

sure, I know. But this does not counter my argument that traceability of bitcoins to a market (for example) but not linked to an actual purchase is useless in court. Nobody from the costumers side was never convicted thanks to the traceability of bitcoins, not.even.one, ever. If they find the drugs nobody cares if you paid for them with bitcoins, monero or blowjobs. If they don't find the drugs you can't be jailed just because you fucked with cryptos, and this is not even a sufficient reason for a search warrant. If you are a costumer Monero is only a waste of time and money

/u/[deleted]

1 points

6 years ago

I like it.

/u/undefined

1 points

6 years ago

1) A darkmarket MUST offer XMR payments for all users in addition to BTC
2) A darkmarket SHOULD force all VENDORS use 2FA and XMR for payouts
3) A darkmarket Vendor MUST NOT have an ability to turn off accepting XMR
4) A darkmarket COULD offer private anonymous OTC exchange service
5) So maybe we SHOUD just fork Monero by adding marketplace support lol?

Decentralization is what comes next. Just a matter of time.

/u/blabla2

1 points

6 years ago

It's not that hard to run Tails and just use GUI, it's even noob proof as you have detailed info just under the download...

/u/pickmeup

1 points

6 years ago

Yeah, bitch!

/u/DeadPlatypus

1 points

6 years ago

Damn I wish I had read this sooner. I don't plan doing any transactions until I understand how to use Monero bettter. Hopefully past bitcoin purchases won't cause problems for me in the future. Thanks for the post, motherfucker.

/u/Enchitheyojimbo

1 points

6 years ago

Anyone got a good way to buy monero preferably with a debit/credit card?

/u/dankterps

1 points

6 years ago

Love this thread. Use monero bitch

/u/Vendy_McVendface GET OFF MY LAWN!!

1 points

6 years ago

Are you /u/HugBunter?

Update the private sites you created and sold over a year ago to fulfill the promise of XMR acceptance you made before selling a single one...

/u/shieldedo

1 points

6 years ago

Please explain the facts about using Monero, what makes it "better" than the typical crypto currencies??

/u/DMTinBUTT

1 points

6 years ago

It can't be traced on the blockchain. You need to use a lot more effort to uncover Monero transactions and it works only in cases where the user was lazy and used bad practices.

You can buy Monero from the police and send it back to the police without them being able to tell that the coins are the same or that you sent them. You need to take a few extra things into consideration when doing something like that of course.

Its much more safer than Bitcoin.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

6 years ago

Thank you

/u/getupstandup9090

1 points

6 years ago

Lots of wallets out there supporting Monero as well. Exodus, Guarda (has btc conversion internal), as well as MoneroGUI.

/u/ticktock4

1 points

6 years ago

Can monero transactions be traced back like bitcoins? Or is it that which makes monero more "secure". Noob here, apologies if that's lame.
And b/w dash and monero which would be more secure tracability wise?

/u/DMTinBUTT

3 points

6 years ago

You can not trace Monero like you can Bitcoin. Go to /d/Monero and read the pinned thread.

/u/womanlypacked

1 points

6 years ago

OK everyone knows monero is more secure but are there actually any sites with monero multisig? Or are you forgetting what a shit idea it is to use market wallets?
Until this changes you can keep using monero for fiat>crypto or back again, but you are definitely putting yourself at unnecessary risk of losing money if you don't use bitcoin multisig on the actual markets, without adding any anonymity whatsoever and making exit scams more likely.

/u/outerstar

1 points

6 years ago

Monero is a pain in the ass to use when you are only buying bits of weed. I'm not buying kilos of crack and until I am I will stick with other crypto,

I am irritated that more DNM'S don't accept BCH. Cheap to buy (and anonymous now they have a KYC free marketplace). There is also a cash shuffle mixer built into the wallet which no doubt will improve over time.)

But because empire doesn't accept it I am stuck using bitcoin's bitch (AKA Litecoin)

Bitcoin Core is dead to me and should be to any DNM enthusiast with more than two brain cells in their head

/u/JACKJACK

1 points

6 years ago

XMR is always a good way to go.If you haven't learned it why are people still here (no offense just saying,look at all the massive arrest due to De-anonymizing crypto)

/u/savagejohn

1 points

6 years ago

Only Monero. It's so anon "THEY" are doing everything tey can to keep the word from getting out in the MSM. THEY love our BTC fools. Plus I'm pretty sure a few BTC washers are now LE honeypots.

BTC is for investing. XMR is for buying and selling.

/u/urbancheese

1 points

6 years ago

dumb question: is there an easy way to buy monero, or only trade? Suggest site(s)?

/u/foxy

1 points

6 years ago

Markets should allow sellers to give a discount for Monero. The only market I remember actually doing that was either Zion or Aero, but I thought it was a good idea.

/u/floortwenty

1 points

6 years ago

>> Wasabi Wallet - coinjoin
>> Samourai Wallet - whirlpool

/u/Heinous

1 points

6 years ago

I agree. Xmr ftw.

/u/fangoflight

1 points

6 years ago

Is wasabi wallet as trustworthy and safe as everyone makes it out to be?

/u/SolidDas

1 points

6 years ago

I'm honestly disappointed how many vendors don't accept XMR. They could easily accept XMR and use a service to convert back to BTC anonymously when they withdrawal.

/u/singleservingfriend

1 points

6 years ago

installing LE soft wont make you more secure. the only option for privacy is web based wallets. cloudcare cause raw dogging the blockchain is hard

/u/greenjuice

0 points

6 years ago

After read a lot of comments here I think it's better to use both (or more) at the markets but also there's a need of educate the people. Maybe the markets should put more effort on some guidelines, giving more strength to those sections (if even exist). A good example of something well done is the help/faq section of /d/Cannazon. I really think every market must put more effort on that aspect. If play with BTC is risky, say it there, warn and teach people. I think the use of BTC is not a risk itself and is completely valid like many others coins. Monero is more secure, yes, but I'd like to have the choice of use other coins, thought it could require more knowledge and even some risk. Also in my opinion low profile buyers and vendors, at the moment, aren't LE targets.

Summary: Monero is more secure and must be DNM mainstream but people must have the choice of use other coins.

/u/Wiccaspirit

0 points

6 years ago

Camarades kindly assist me where i can buy good cvv word widely ?

/u/singleservingfriend

-2 points

6 years ago

what you the coin nazi?