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Warning: PYGMALION and MERCEDESDE are SCAMMERS : CafeDread | Torhoo darknet markets

so after 2 months I can confirm these scumbags are scamming buyers, I didn't get my products and lost all the money, they tell you to wait, then escrow expires, then they tell you they reshipped but they never do, meanwhile the time to write the review expires and you are fucked, they fuck your money and that's it, you can't even write a bad review warning others, I didn't fall for it and warned users against pygmalion but lost my money nevertheless and also trusted the pig mercedesde and lost my money and time to write a review to warn others. Do not lose your money like I did, warn other buyers, we have the power, many subs delete this post and side with these scammers, please mods stop doing it, buyers are not rich, I'm a very long time buyers (since silk!) and don't scam vendors! let's break their business, warn every one! This post is a warning from a buyer who lost a lot of money (buyers are not rich, even 100 is alot of our money!!)

Avoid especially pygmalion who has FE and is thus trusted very much by the markets and buyers, they have bad reviews and other subs here on dread are listing them as definite scammers because they know they are doing it, SAVE YOUR MONEY AND AVOID THESE SCAMMERS!
Remember to tag the vendor in this type of posts :)

/u/Pygmalion /u/MercedesDE
/u/dexhex8 📢
3 points
1 year ago
why? to hear their bullshit? they are scammers man.
/u/mercedesDE
4 points
1 year ago
MercedesDE here this scumbag piece of shit lying as Vietnamese , order 10gr ketamine to VIetnam didnt receive for obvious reasons ( no infrastructure in that shithole of a country ) i offerd him full refund he said no i will burn you to the ground, brother sit tight before i expose your fucking adress over the whole darkweb you chinese bitch ass nigga
/u/mercedesDE
3 points
1 year ago*
just because of this chingchong motherfucking liar the first 10 people to comment here get 50 euro store credit on archetyp

be fast or be last

mercedes is the real deal motherfuckerrsssss
/u/fransua36
1 points
1 year ago
Is this promotion still valid? I have bought coke from you 3-4 times and I have never had a problem.
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
leave your archetype name here and message me on archetype for your free 50 euros worth of stuff !!
/u/fransua36
1 points
1 year ago
fransua35
thanks
/u/0dayed
1 points
1 year ago
[removed]
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
leave your archetype name here and message me on archetype for your free 50 euros worth of stuff !!
/u/Purple777
1 points
1 year ago*
So far, I can say that he is not a scammer.
Just wrote you a message on Archetype.
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
thanks wrote you back much love
/u/Purple777
1 points
1 year ago
Made it true and was generous! In my eyes, trustworthy vendor. Keeps his promises. He's a good one.
/u/iForgotMyLogin
1 points
1 year ago
Definitely not a scammer, have ordered about a dozen times and literally just finalized the latest order

I can haz credit? ;) I'll DM you my arch user
/u/commontobeme
1 points
1 year ago
Hey bro if you are actually for real about this your a legend.. Mind if I handed you my archetyp user and I could send a DM? Will leave a good review on here about you and everything, you seem great
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
alright bro
/u/cblink
1 points
1 year ago
archetyp: bgfth34
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
alright message me on archetyp
/u/John1357
1 points
1 year ago
I never had any problem with mercedesDE
archetyp: John5782
/u/playboifarti
1 points
1 year ago
If this is still valid my archetyp is 4444random, got an order with you rn, all past ones arrived just fine and loved the stuff every time so I can vouch
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
sure think
/u/Narniasama
1 points
1 year ago
Hello was about to test your product!
Still on the 10 i think ahaha
Archetyp: Noobsan
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
ofcourse
/u/l0003
1 points
1 year ago
And i guess iam the 10th one. I got 100% reship from him after finalized! With 100% Trust! Good Guy!
Can i wrote DM on arch?
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
yes please
/u/NinjaStar
1 points
1 year ago
had amazing order with mercedesDE, everytime package didn't arrive he reshipped and came :) Rn I am waiting for a reship strong communication from mercedesDE, altough I am not in the first 10, you deserve the credits :)
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
love you brother
/u/scrappapa
1 points
11 months ago
Am I too late for this?
Ordered with you in the past with 0 issues, super fast shipping and delivery and man some really good product.
Can recommend the pokemon line :) I kinda feel like dressing up like Dr. oak and ask people at parties to choose their starter pokemon.
Name on Arch is Scrappapa.
<3
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
Vietnamise?? I'm a EU trusted buyer with a long history and thousands of euros in purchases, you were a good vendor now you started to scam, vietnamese?? like vietnamise people had to buy very expensive drugs from germany, you insane pig scammer!
/u/mercedesDE
1 points
1 year ago
i know who you are dont try to hide your identity i remember your order precisly bitch
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
DEFINITELY a scammer and most likely a 12 year old retarded who probably bought the account of the old trusted pygmalion, according to this bag of shit vietnamise people risk decades in prison to buy expensive shit from a shithead in germany, smfh, at least scammers were smart decades ago, now they're like this shit-stain.
/u/volvicwasser
2 points
1 year ago
I've bought from Pygmalion several times, he doesn't scam. LOL
>thread was started 2 hours ago
>user account was created 1 hour ago
Try harder next time.
/u/MinusMacher
0 points
1 year ago*
I highly doubt that Pygmalion would create a new account. Looks rather like a setup to me. This is so obvious and I have never seen something like this from Pygmalion before, and this is not my main account on Dread. I have been on Dread for a long time.
I never said it was Pygmalion, obviously it's either a troll or a shill. I don't think there's an in between and i also don't think that this newly created account is a bona fide poster.
/u/volvicwasser
1 points
1 year ago
Iam new on Dread, i used Didw and Germania before. I saw this shitty post and commented it. Iam not a troll or something like that. Lol. Youre such a weirdo fr. i bought XTC Heineken and Ape Pills 4 times by Pygmalion and i got it in my drop after 2 days.
/u/dexhex8 📢
2 points
1 year ago
ahahahahahahah beware of this turd aka pygmalion mum or dad writing in his favor! ahahahahah
Your account seems off...
/u/han920
2 points
1 year ago
mercedesDE order is 43 days old. it promised to return the money but did not return it. people should not buy from it
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
make posts all over about this motherfucker, don't just reply here, he is scamming non stop
/u/Wagon252
2 points
1 year ago
I had a shipment from mercedesDE 45 days ago but never recived it, I was also told about a reshipment but i'm not sure if thats coming too. I tried to be optimistic but I had no luck, would've been alright with a partial refund. I would not recommend anyone from North America to order from them.
/u/aslim2
2 points
1 year ago
Selective scammer seems likely. Gave me the 30 day bit too and then stopped responding. Can't write a review now and it was FE.
/u/onemoretime
1 points
1 year ago
Do you have any kind of proof? Like screenshots or anything like that?
I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here but there has been a whole lot of people calling out Pygmalion in the past month(if not more), this user doesn't have a baby bottle beside its username so i doubt it's someone just trying to false flag. It just seems like it's a recurrent theme and Pygmalion has yet to answer back to all these claims.
That's right! We also had a problem with Pygmalion in /d/SpainIsDiferent some days ago...
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
yeah they took my advice too! smart fellas I ain't liying
/u/onemoretime
1 points
1 year ago
No, I agree with you. I was just thinking he could support his case better but it definitely seems to be a pattern with him
Yeah you're right to also ask for proof.
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
yes I warned about several scammers over the years, if the markets were still up you'd see their many bad reviews, any single one was or had become a scammer, they all do it after a couple of years or less of gaining trust.
/u/Pygmalion
1 points
1 year ago
The only user doing this. Is this user. Please double check my rating before believing his bullshit
I said that i'm not taking any sides, i was simply pointing out to the other user that lately alot of people have been bitching about not having received their orders from you. I have absolutely nothing against you and i couldn't care less as it doesn't affect me and i don't order from you.
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
the screenshots where he says he shipped and reshipped my stuff, man please grow up and wake up
/u/onemoretime
1 points
1 year ago
Why are you saying I need to grow up and wake up? I'm just saying it would help your case (although as I already said it seems like this is a pattern). Don't take your anger out on the wrong people bro
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
no anger just a simple answer
/u/slake
1 points
1 year ago
My order from mercedesde didn't arrive yet either..from incognito so can't even dispute
/u/dexhex8 📢
1 points
1 year ago
you are not the only one many didn't get theirs and missed the chance to write the review, he is scamming non stop.
/u/1PieceEnjoyer
1 points
1 year ago
I know some packages from pygmalion to eu were collected by police. So that might be case too
/u/dexhex8 📢
3 points
1 year ago
the fuck are you THE POLICE? if he is so good as he states he should use good stealth, also packaged is eu! no customs
/u/MinusMacher
1 points
1 year ago
He can still be intercepted, he is big enough for it. Yes, the EU borders are relaxed, but this does not mean that no seizures happen at all.
/u/MinusMacher
1 points
1 year ago
Where do you have the info from?
/u/1PieceEnjoyer
1 points
1 year ago*
I talked with a guy like 3 months ago that his package got seized. He received love letter from german police. There wasnt any problem besides that. At that time pygmalion had like 10+ disputes active, so it probably happend to many people. (Sorry it might have been SpeedLab bc Pygmalion uses FE so he cant have any disputes. but seizure can happen to him as well)

It was from DE to Czechia. I dont think seizures happen from DE to DE
/u/MinusMacher
1 points
1 year ago
Love letters from German police are uncommon (those letters that say that something got seized and nothing else). In Germany they usually charge you regardless of the amount (proving it is another things though!) and you receive an "Aktenzeichen" with a criminal case. (It will get dropped though since it is not enough proof, especially in another country)
Seizures from Germany are possible if the police is investigating a vendor and have just found some parcels he has sent out. Which could have happened here.
/u/1PieceEnjoyer
1 points
1 year ago
In Czechia police or LE come personaly for you and they have a talk with you at station, you just have to play dumb and investigation is over. Czech customs target mostly packages from Netherlands. Other packages are usually safe if they are not caught in source country like germany, but I have heard it is still rare.
/u/MinusMacher
2 points
1 year ago
Well, since CZ doesn't care a lot about personal use, they won't put much energy into it. In Germany, I would feel really uncomfortable with a seizure, because sometimes they search your house and your mail (especially in smaller towns and often in Bavaria). You have a certain unsafe feeling of uncertainty in Germany when you have a seizure and German investigations take a long time. Some people in the German sub dread reported to get charged two years after the parcel got seized.
But your friend will be safe, the German police often has trouble setting up an investigation if it includes other countries, let alone for a personal amount of drugs in a drug user friendly country.
/u/Darkbeard
1 points
1 year ago
I wouldnt have waited. you have to remember youre on the a anonymous internet, their is no honor amoung thieves.
/u/askus4
1 points
1 year ago
Never let escrow expire if you're yet to receive your order, no matter what the vendor says.

Escrow is there to protect buyers from scams, make sure to use it as intended!
/u/dexhex8 📢
2 points
1 year ago
this scammer has FE and trusted him because he's known, didn't read he had bad reviews on his profile, he is obviously scamming.
/u/askus4
1 points
1 year ago
Unfortunately you'll just have to take it as a learning experience then.

Always check reviews, especially if it's only FE when ordering,.
/u/theresnocloud
1 points
1 year ago
I actually have the same problem.
He told me that he reships the order.

Gonna wait a maximum of 14days.
Hate that feeling of not knowing either the package was intercepted or he never shipped.
/u/MinusMacher
1 points
1 year ago
It may take some time and Pygmalion has communication problems, but if you are polite and patient you will get your refund.
/u/theresnocloud
1 points
1 year ago
Of course i will stay polite and patient.
Pygmalion is my "way-to-go" for a long time.

Its just the first time i have an issue with an order from him - so i will wait
/u/Pygmalion
1 points
1 year ago
Dude, seriously get a job or something.

I tried to help you, but you refused to answer my questions and insulted me instead, because your 27 EUR order didnt land.
Which isnt even my fault.

Please go and talk to DHL. I did my job and I send your goods.
/u/theresnocloud
2 points
1 year ago
Received my package today - took a while to arrive, but atleast it arrived
Pygmalion is still a reliable vendor <3
/u/theresnocloud
1 points
1 year ago
If you sent it - just ignore this dude
/u/dexhex8 📢
-1 points
1 year ago*
oh now you send dhl within eu? you are such a scammer and liar, hey people don't buy nothing from this scammer, he'll fuck your money, threaten you, insult you, lie, make baby accounts to defend himself and pay others to get good reviews and pr on dread, avoid this scammer
INSTEAD OF INSULTING ME, TELLING ME TO GET A JOB AFTER YOU STOLE MY MONEY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE ME THE MONEY YOU STOLE FROM ME BACK? BECAUSE YOU ARE A LOUSY SCAMMER WHO STEALS PENNIES FROM POOR BUYERS, BUT BE SURE THE WORD SPREAD AND PEOPLE SEARCH VENDOR NAMES BEFORE BUYING, YOUR SALES WILL GET HIT BY THIS EPISODE, I WON'T STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU SCAMMER, YOU GOT EXPOSED, YOU HAVE MANY OTHER NEGATIVE REVIEWS ON YOUR PROFILE!
/u/MinusMacher
2 points
1 year ago
Du machst dich so langsam ein wenig laecherlich. Du magst Pygmalion nicht, wir haben es verstanden. Auch ohne Capslock. Dann kauf halt woanders. Woher hast du eigentlich die ganze Zeit, solche Posts zu erstellen?
/u/dexhex8 📢
0 points
1 year ago
schwul was zum teufel willst du?
another one who sides with this scammer, buyers beware.
/u/threeohthree
2 points
1 year ago
dexhex8, I don’t understand your point. On the one hand you claim that pygmalion successfully scammed you of your money, but on the other hand you say that he is a lousy scammer. Wouldn’t he be a good scammer if he successfully scammed you?

I don’t think Pygmalion is a scammer. You know why? Because I’ve bought from him numerous times and never had a problem. Maybe I’m just lucky, but I think if you follow the procedures and go through the motions, everything usually works out.

Also, never put out more money than you can afford to loose. If he stole pennies from you and you’re this upset, then you really need to revaluate if you should be buying drugs on the darknet.
/u/onderweg123
1 points
1 year ago
lol what, I ordered some stuff from him, I live literally on the other side of the planet, and his package arrived faster than any other international order i've ever placed
/u/dexhex8 📢
2 points
1 year ago
silly cunt he is not scamming everybody, it's selective and maybe after seing this and getting bad reviews he reduced it, fucking idiot, can't understand these pieces of shit who defend so strongly these fucking scammers. most likely you are him or on his side.
/u/onderweg123
1 points
1 year ago
lol you have mental issues
/u/ficcius22
1 points
1 year ago*
At the moment I only have good words for MercedesDe. My last order did not arrive and they made me a reship which I am waiting for. But all the other orders arrived and very quickly. I don't understand the criticism. I will update if the resend arrives

/u/MercedesDE
/u/ficcius22
1 points
1 year ago
I come to update as I said. I have received the reship from mercedesDE so this seller has my respects and there is nothing scam about him

/u/MercedesDE
/u/misterk8
1 points
11 months ago*
Can confirm that my 10+ transactions with mercedes worked everytime for domestic.
archetype name dr....4 (not keen to share full name)
/u/sat0shi
1 points
10 months ago*
Going to add on this thread my experience with pygmalion. Placed an order with tracking, didn't receive the order or the tracking and he's not answering messages. Doesn't look very good seeing all these similar experiences and also in his reviews on archetyp im seeing people saying the same recently. Will update if anything changes

UPDATE: pygmalion got in contact with me and everything was solved with great communication and service, he problably had a few busy days but if you have problems with a bit of patience everything will be solved. Very happy to see this vendor keeping up the good job as i have never had problems before and will be happy to be a customer again soon
/u/tarantoloso
1 points
8 months ago
my contribution re. MercedesDE. After a very long pause, I ordered 10 days ago 5 XTC pills on Archetyp DE to DE to my Packstation in München, 3 days ago I complained for the non arrival and they promptly replied "reshipped!", last Saturday: I am now waiting again ... having a strange feeling, but lets see, I will update you very soon (national delivery time is usually 3 days in DE)
/u/tarantoloso
1 points
7 months ago
a positive update: today Wednesday stuff arrived!! So thumbs up to MercedesDe! Of course, it would have been all perfect if the stuff had been sent out from the very beginning and not just at the second try after my enquiry ... Now a general recommendation for MercedesDe and all the others: put A FICTIONAL SENDING ADDRESS ON THE ENVELOPES, PLEASE!! It does not cost anything: envelopes without sender make law enforcement and post offices suspicious and I can confirm this at my expenses!
/u/lsd4selfhealing
0 points
1 year ago
Dear all, about: MercedesDE

I ordered 2x100 LSD POKEMON (240 ug) on Archetyp Market (delivery to Poland). You have confirmed the order quickly, fast answers, very nice contact. Delivery did not arrive after 1 month (ordered on 03.05 and it is 02.06 today). I was informed that reship was sent on 24.05, still waiting. I opened "dispute" in accordance with Archetyp FAQ. I still have hope, as MercedesDE seems to be very legit.

I will keep ye'all potential customers updated on the situation. ;)

/u/MercedesDE
/u/fuzdaenen
1 points
9 months ago
any update?
/u/ma5t3rp
0 points
1 year ago
Ordered 4mmc from Pyg to MY with no issue. Was great to deal with. Most recent order support was also available to answer my qs.. Awaiting my recent order any day now...