I open the forum and find this message.I didn´t hear such bad manners since Silk Road Trial....
I will be more polite than you and will not accuse you of "liar" because I have no idea of what has happened. Instead, I will try to investigate and make public where is the mistake (if there is a mistake).
In our team there are many people working. People, sometimes make mistakes, is a human defect. So if we have done anything wrong, we will explain and solve it, as we always do.
In this moment I can answer you one of your accusations. We are experimenting delays in PDF results because of technical and organizative aspects. We are trying to solve this very soon but, remember that most of our work is done by volunteers and our fundings are limited. In any case, all PDF reports are always sent.
There is no problem to discuss this in public, if you agree. I don´t know where is the mail where I asked for your codes (I receive dozens every day). You can write me to doctorx@energycontrol.org or publish it here if you prefer. As soon as I have the code, we will review the process. If you provide the WEDINOS reference we can also check with them.
By the way...we have strict protocols for destroying samples after checking. In any case nobody in the team would steal a alprazolam (and much less, ethyl-heptedrone) sample.
I will be happy to continue this discussion in the way you like, but, please, do not difamate or insult us
Well it seems everything is about harm reduction. He just posts all the negative results on samples to scare people away from taking drugs. But when a genuine sample is sent off they falsify results and keep my money.
why would he do that? there is no reason for him to fake your results. have you tried making another sample test? I dont know the situation, but wedinos could be wrong though? The analog EC gave you, if thats alp replica i would be happy for that result instead of being mad.
50e is nothing if you sell drugs, just shrug it as cost do another test.
You are locked on EC being wrong while you can not be sure about that, it just blinds your judgement.
Its obvious he falsified the result... I paid for the option which requests a PDF document of the results and he never provided that. Not only that but wedinos confirmed the drug was alprazolam. Alprazolam does not even have similar effects to this new compound they said it was. The supplier I have for alprazolam doesnt even supply this new cathinone. Cathinones are not even close to benzos. It was 120 Euro not 50. I am not waiting another 3 weeks hoping that I get a genuine result because I wont. I am happier letting people know how shitty he is wasting my time, stealing my money and providing false results. If doctorx wants to resolve this issue he can pay for my postage to send another sample and not take the piss by taking 3 weeks for a test. People need to know what hes doing and what hes doing can be dangerous to users. Cathinones require a moderately high dosage to get a desired high. Alprazolam you need 2mg for a standard dose. So if hes saying its a cathinone and I believe that I would be snorting lines of 100mg each of this alprazolam. This is harm reduction!?
Is it at all possible that EC made a simple mistake and mixed up samples? I get that that isn't great if it happened, but it is a hell of a lot different from them "faking" results. Is it possible the code was redundant or something, and that this is just a one-off mixup maybe with someone who didn't request a PDF report?
I am just trying to think of other possibilities that would allow you and DoctorX to both be right. Occam's Razor and all...
Considering that DoctorX is a public figure, and EnergyControl is a legitimate business, I find that hard to believe, considering he's risking his life and freedom for this, for what?
this nigga so ignorant he said doc was probably smoking up DNM drugs before he can test them. LOOOOOL!! yeah that makes no sense at all. youre a little upset obviously but if you gonna trip out like you have i dont think this is the line of work for you. have you ever heard the quote you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? NEVER attack a vendor publicly until you have exhausted private means of communication.
I think that this is a speculation. Doctor X is a big person, and he makes a good job with EnergyControl and i cant understand that him falsified a test. Only FUD
- "DoctorX" has not received any mail with this characteristics
- We only offer information about a sample code to the person who has sent a sample. In cases we receive a mail from the same address of that registered in our databases and linked to a sample code, no additional information is asked for. If we receive a mail from another email address we always ask for additional info, in order to protect privacy of users and data.
- We have verified that all pending PDF reports with "Ethyl Heptedrone" result have been sent to users. It is true that we have had more delay than usual in reports from particularly complicated substances (as new cathinone derivatives). But that does not mean that we "consume samples", "falsify results" and the rest of stupid accusations in your mail.
- Considering that you have not answered to any of our messages (in fact it seems that you registered in the forum only to publish this thread) we have no way to verify if we could have done any mistake, retest your sample or contact Wedinos to compare both samples.
So I will close this thread if you don´t answer anything in following days /u/Pissedoffvendor
we have used them numerous times and sadly, although we do believe they try, their results have been wholly unreliable, their too slow for purpose and overall a waste of time and money.
I open the forum and find this message.I didn´t hear such bad manners since Silk Road Trial....
I will be more polite than you and will not accuse you of "liar" because I have no idea of what has happened. Instead, I will try to investigate and make public where is the mistake (if there is a mistake).
In our team there are many people working. People, sometimes make mistakes, is a human defect. So if we have done anything wrong, we will explain and solve it, as we always do.
In this moment I can answer you one of your accusations. We are experimenting delays in PDF results because of technical and organizative aspects. We are trying to solve this very soon but, remember that most of our work is done by volunteers and our fundings are limited. In any case, all PDF reports are always sent.
There is no problem to discuss this in public, if you agree. I don´t know where is the mail where I asked for your codes (I receive dozens every day). You can write me to doctorx@energycontrol.org or publish it here if you prefer. As soon as I have the code, we will review the process. If you provide the WEDINOS reference we can also check with them.
By the way...we have strict protocols for destroying samples after checking. In any case nobody in the team would steal a alprazolam (and much less, ethyl-heptedrone) sample.
I will be happy to continue this discussion in the way you like, but, please, do not difamate or insult us