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1 points

4 days ago

That's the risk ordering with finalized early option. Of course, even FE sellers have a refund policy but no one can ensure he will refund you or not.

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

I'm sure the guy would, he seemed nice, he even offered me one but that was the last message he sent.

The problem is he's been gone for a week and it looks like he's not coming back. TBH I think he was nicked, the way he spoke to me had no indication he did not intend to follow through. If he was planning on running with the money he would have done it to everyone and not just me, and he wouldn't have bothered to offer the refund either.

/u/Battery

1 points

4 days ago

Did you try to find him in another market?

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

Yep, no activity on any of them. To be fair they did say they'd be gone for a few days to "relocate operations", but they'd also say they'd remain active to handle inquires and would continue shipping out anything ordered beforehand.

Perhaps the relocation was more difficult than they expected and is taking longer, but my gut tells me that either police pulled them over during this "relocation" and got them or something happened that made them decide to just stop vending immediately.

I'm going to give it another week before I officially decide it's a lost cause.

/u/Battery

2 points

4 days ago

Yes, that's the best you can do. Good luck with it buddy.

/u/nodaddicted

1 points

4 days ago

can i ask how much $$$ was ur FE'd order?

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

£350, so $500.

However, this was not the largest order they had active at the same. On the same day as me someone ordered a more expensive order and they received their product.

I did consider the fact they may have been planning to quit, and selective scammed me because I had a larger order, however that does make sense knowing that my order was not the largest and that the largest most expensive order got their product delivered.

/u/nodaddicted

1 points

3 days ago

interesting... i guess just be patient then, hopefully they return soon and get in touch with u.

/u/ViolentRuski

1 points

4 days ago

FE should be used only in the most extreme circumstances. Not to preach but I'm an advocate for escrow. FE can tempt even the most moral vendor. I understand you prob didn't mean to but in the future, avoid FE vendors. Hopefully they make it right in the future. If not, put then on blast in public!!!

/u/ViolentRuski

2 points

4 days ago

Also, I'm pretty sure "trusted vendor" is a tag vendors can pay extra for. So it means virtually nothing.

/u/Ghwbushsr

1 points

4 days ago

It's like being a "premium member" on dread lol

/u/ViolentRuski

2 points

4 days ago

Yah or verified on X(Twitter) lmao

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago*

This was actually my first time using an FE vendor as well, I knew the risk of course but I had assumed it would be okay since they've been around for at least 5 years and in that time I have heard literally not a single bad word about them.

The thing I don't understand is that, based on the most recent reviews, I was literally the only one this happened to. If they were planning on running with the money why would they only take a single not particularly large order? The last thing they said to me was that they could not fulfill it and would either ship double in a week or they would give me a full refund. If they had planned to exit scam, why would they exit scam one person. Furthermore, why would they offer that person a refund before hand when they could have just said nothing.

The whole situation is weird IMO. I am still holding out that something unexpected happened and they will be back. As I said in another comment, I'm giving it a week before I accept they are not coming back.

/u/ViolentRuski

2 points

4 days ago

You're new around here huh? Its called selective scamming. Some markets have been slowly exit scamming since they came online. There's a million ways to do it and some are extremely clever.

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

If they were selective scamming, they'd still be active on the markets though right? There has been no trace of them anywhere since that day, they have not logged into any markets at all in over a week.

And if they did selective scam, surely they would pick a more valuable target. I am sure their 5 year old alias with 99-100% positive feedback is worth way more than my order. I would agree it is just selective scamming if they logged in again and continued doing other orders though.

/u/Ghwbushsr

1 points

4 days ago

maybe "relocate operations" was code for "going to do 5-10 in fed"

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago*

I suppose that is true, but if it is, why did they send out everyone else's orders? I suppose others could be in the same situation and all of them are just keeping quiet about it, but that seems unlikely. When the order timers start running out I suppose I'll find out.

And if I got my timeline right, they sent orders out AFTER announcing the relocation too, which they did a few days in advance. If they knew they were going to prison I doubt they'd do that. Specifically they vanished the day after the supposed relocation, not on the day itself. It was supposed to last "about 5 days", that was 8 days ago. They also said they would remain active during this time to answer questions.

My personal conspiracy is that they were actually relocating and got pulled over/caught with all of their equipment and whatnot on them. IDK if there are any police trackers or anything, especially in the UK, but if they were arrested maybe the police will announce it as they like to do. Based on all the evidence I have it makes the most sense.

The other possibilities are:

1. They knew they were about to be arrested. However if this is the case they would not have sent out other orders

2. They were planning on quitting vending, ran out of stuff and so they didn't fulfill my order. However, If they were planning on quitting why did they exit scam a single person, if they wanted money they could have done more. Furthermore they offered a refund, if they were planning on fucking off forever I don't see why they'd bother.

3. They were actually arrested. Explains why they vanished despite saying they'd continue being active, explains why they shipped other orders, lines up with the whole relocation thing

4. They have a grudge against me in particular. Maybe they know me IRL and don't like me or something, maybe me ordering off them freaked them out so they ran. (Very unlikely)

5. They are relocating, but it was much more involved and they are taking longer than they expected so they have been unable to log into the market. There is no evidence to contradict this, but it seems like the second most likely possibility to me.

6. They're dead, in hospital, or otherwise incapacitated. Like the previous there is no evidence against this theory but there is no evidence for it either.

As far as I can tell, this is every possible option. Judging based on estimated probabilities and evidence for/against, it seems likely to be 3 or 5, it might be 6, it's possibly but not particularly likely to be 2, it's unlikely to be 1, and it's almost definitely not 4.

Honestly, the thing that is bothering me is not the money, it's the not knowing what happened and why.

/u/ViolentRuski

1 points

4 days ago

Yah this is an interesting mystery. Could be so many diff things... update this post if ya figure it out bro I'm curious.

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

Unless they come back I don't think I will be able to figure it out unfortunately :( I will be keeping an eye on their vendor pages in the coming week or two though.

/u/ViolentRuski

1 points

4 days ago

Well like I said, dont be afraid to out them publicly. Perhaps someone else will have some info that could help. Of course, if you're worried about your opsec i understand, but doxing anyone on dread is grounds for immediate bans across the board.

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

I thought about it, but decided not to (at least for now) for two reasons:

Even if they did fuck me over, and it was their fault (i.e. they weren't arrested and did exit scam)... they're gone now so it doesn't matter. I would reconsider it if they came back.

And secondly, I wanted to give them more time before saying their name, just in case something happened outside of their control, I would not want to ruin their reputation over an accident.

/u/ViolentRuski

1 points

4 days ago

Yah that's fair. Good luck bro I hope they treat you with the same respect you've shown them

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

2 days ago

They came back! I wasn't expecting it but it is a nice surprise. I am also very glad to know for sure they weren't arrested and their life wasn't ruined by that. A free life is worth far more than my few hundred pound. They offered me a full refund or a generous offer of another product. I took the refund because none of their other products are things I like (mainly meth, which I don't do).

/u/ViolentRuski

1 points

2 days ago

Fuckin sweet. Glad that worked out!

/u/djeoclaous1066 📢

1 points

4 days ago

I used FE because they happened to be the only heroin vendor on the market that sells heroin from the UK at the time. There was only one other (admittedly escrow) that did it, however they would not confirm my order so I cancelled it and went with the only other option,

/u/quasar1 Staff - Dark Matter Market

1 points

3 days ago

Trusted badge means they have Finalize Early ability

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