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What should be acceptable on rcsources? : rcsources | Torhoo darknet markets

I want to start a new thread and want constructive feedback.

What should be acceptable threads?
1. I agree should be RC and RC related.
What is RC though? SR-17018 I would agree is. Would 2-CB?

No advertising without a vendor flair - I do agree with this.

Ads to twice weekly - I want to make this once weekly. You know we volunteer to help with this. I have a full time job and a side hustle, I don't have hours to spend here either.

I'm up for constructive criticism and thoughts. What do you want to see here?
/u/modestmoose
1 points
1 week ago
I realize defining RC's can get difficult but I think the following can be blanket excluded:
Cocaine
MDMA
MDA
Meth
Amphetamine (adderall, vyvanse, etc.)
Ritalin
Shrooms
LSD
DMT
Mescaline
Classic opiods (heroin, morphine, etc)
DXM
Ketamine
PCP
GHB / GBL
xanax
klonopin
ativan
Are we good with just any benzos? Or are there RC benzos?
/u/modestmoose
1 points
1 week ago
There are actually quite a few RC benzos, etizolam prob being the best known. Not really my area of interest but things like bromazolam, clonazolam, flubromazolam. I believe there are lots more...
Not mine either, that's why I'm asking questions. I think it's a solid list.
Does anyone have any issues with anything on this list? Or anything that should be added?
What about 4-Fluorotropacocaine?
Or exotic cannabinoids?! Would thc-h or thc-b count as a rc?
/u/hearts
3 points
2 weeks ago
I feel like titles should only refer to RC products being sold, with allowance of other products/listings on the post itself. Cut to the chase, I want to know if you're selling mephedrone, not coke.
There are plenty of places to advertise coke. Why not make the ads RC only. That's what people come here to look for.
/u/hearts
2 points
2 weeks ago
Eh I don't mind post content having other drugs, because if you're doing RCs you're probably doing one or more of the regular ones too. Title restrictions are the best solution imo, because it cuts straight to the point before you even click in.
Once weekly is much easier for a mod to track. Twice a week means the sub is drowning in ads. It makes reviews harder to find.
So scrolling through - I think "🎇🎆🎇 Cocaine, Ketamine, Mdma, 3MMC, Meth, LSD, Amphetamines, Ecstasy 🎇🎆🎇 " is not acceptable here.
/u/hearts
1 points
2 weeks ago*
Yes, a listing like this should only list availability for 3-MMC. Perhaps something like "3-MMC and More, Visit Us on Dark Matter!" with the rest of the menu inside the post would be fine. This also helps people sift through vendors who are known for their products/in the RC scene vs. those who just carry an RC with little regard to its authenticity. Requires a bit more accountability.
But "Factory supply best quality strongest precursor and kits of 5FADB/5CLADBA.Provide the detailed cooking instructions.Guarantee fast and safe shipping " should be.
/u/hearts
2 points
2 weeks ago
Yes, this is a perfect example. RC only in title, specified chems in title.
Should K2 and spice be acceptable?
/u/hearts
2 points
2 weeks ago
Because RCs are novel drugs, I think all vendors should be required to specify in particularity what is being sold like /u/CurlyBuffalo said. These are drugs with finicky synthesizing processes that often result in other analogues if done wrong or have such a fucked up market that if sourced lazily vendors will have something different than they think they have (i.e. Meph vs. 4-CMC). Like for example, if someone's selling K2 with AB-PINACA, they should say they're selling AB-PINACA spray/paper/bud, not just K2. I think specifically in the title too, as it would be easier for you guys than having to sift through post content to see if they're holding to the rule.
/u/passwordname
2 points
1 week ago
its up to vendors and buyers to decide whether to disclose active(s), or use a generic term like K2 is acceptable.

Look at Eutylone's evolution into minor variants, many times no CAS number, that are sold as EU, NU, KU crystal.


There are always gonna be shitty vendors misrepresenting their products. whether getting caught selling brom as alp, 2-mmc or 4cmc as 3 or 4mmc. that said, many vendors are totally naive when it comes to drugs and might not realize it, which is only an issue if they dont have lab analysis done on every product sold to customers... which many vendors dont, lol
Too many k2 baby bottle scammers. Explain why you are not dnm listed

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/u/CurlyBuffalo
1 points
2 weeks ago
I would say so, ideally they would identify the synth cannabinoid they're selling in the body or on their site/page etc. I don't use it though so others who do might disagree
/u/LappLisas P Catharsis Vendor
1 points
2 weeks ago
I would like to see vendor ads max once a week. Maybe less.

Regarding 2c-b: I've noticed that some clearnet shops advertise products they claim to be 2C-B. My question is whether these substances are genuinely 2C-B or some legal alternative.
Given the historical association between 2C-B and research chemicals, it seems valuable to encourage open discussion about this topic to better understand what RC shops are actually offering.

Another thought: What is the view of more general RC discussions not strictly related to sourcing. Personally I’d love to see more posts fostering thoughtful discussions, like trip reports or insights into the effects or chemical nuances of different substances.
/u/passwordname
2 points
1 week ago
trip reports ultimately belong on the clearweb where they have the greatest likelihood of being seen by any future psychonauts researching whatever chem, IMO. this is a forum for chem sourcing. obviously any feedback about the chem when reviewing the product is helpful, and pretty much always included by the reviewer
I don't know how newbie does it, but I usually go "Hey, I swear I just saw this ad" in the back of my mind and then pull up the profile and verify. There's no magic spreadsheet of "This vendor posted on Sunday." if you know what I mean.
So I see a post that's like "SATMAPLUG RESEARCH CHEMICALS 🌍️ US, CA, CHINA TO WW 🌍️ SATMAPLUG 🌍️ -- WITH THE BEST PRODUCTS ❄️CHINA WHITE / COLOMBIAN COCAINE / 3MMC & 4MMC/ EUT"" that I have not approved. I think this is way too excessive and using 3MMC/4MMC to post here.
/u/hearts
1 points
2 weeks ago
Yes, this is an obvious example of just listing something to get an extra advertisement out in another subdread. This should've also been not approved for the clear fent advertising, and I feel like there should be some policy about vendors being clear about RC opioids and their potency in posts (perhaps required warnings or a potency ratio).
That's why we're having this discussion. I appreciate your input.
/u/hearts
1 points
2 weeks ago
No problem friend :)
/u/passwordname
1 points
2 weeks ago
All recreational drug use is researching chemicals.


2C-B isn't really an RC anymore, but it fits better here. and far better for someone to use 2C-B than say 25b-NBOme.

1 ad per week would be good. If the title of a thread does not contain any specific chemicals, and the body of the post contains no obscure chemical, it belongs elsewhere.
/u/transdrainer2 Reviewer + 5
1 points
1 week ago
like others are saying, i do find it kinda annoying when non-rc-focused vendors use the fact that they carry 1 or 2 rcs to post ads here. like im here to find new & obscure chems so the sub just seems so cluttered to me with so many ads that are essentially "we pretty much only sell mainstream drugs but also 4-MMC so technically this isn't out of place"

i'm in favor of reducing ads to once weekly bc even among the genuinely rc focused vendors i feel like most of the posts i see here lately are just the same handful of vendors posting more or less the same menu; basically just reminding ppl that they're still around and it feels a lil redundant to me. i do think that updating the superlist more frequently could help cut down on this bc if a trusted vendor can get on the superlist then they don't really need to post ads as much unless it's important like an update to their menu or prices.

as for what is/isnt considered an rc, it's not always black & white. like 2C-B i think is well established enough to not be considered one, but posting about it in the context of trying to source other 2C-X compounds makes sense here. however i'd argue that "who are some good 2C-B vendors" does not.

i think another case worth considering is that of mephedrone & metaphedrone. maybe my perspecitve is biased cuz im a huge drug nerd & spend time on the darknet, but i feel like the popularity of 4-MMC & 3-MMC has risen pretty significantly over the last couple years. like ive been seeing a lot of non-rc vendors that generally stock common shit like coke, dope, molly, meth, etc. add listings for 3-MMC and/or 4-MMC. so i think it's worth thinking about at what point do these substances cross that line & become more like a 2C-B type situation.

and i don't personally have an answer at this moment, but to synthesize the two major points im making here: when an rc rapidly gains popularity & non-rc vendors start stocking it en masse, if they are allowed to post ads here on the technicality that it's still debateable whether or not the substance in question is still an rc or just a 'regular drug' now, the sub gets flooded w ads that only have tangential relevance to the core purpose (at least in my opinion) of this sub, i.e. helping connect ppl searching for novel/obscure substances and those selling them. and if ppl keep coming to the sub in search of that kinda stuff but all they see is a buncha ads for vendors they couldn't care less about that's probably gonna turn them off to coming here & engaging
/u/iamserenity
2 points
16 hours ago
Just wanted to reply in agreement that it seems like /d/rcsources is being spammed by what are otherwise dealers of typicals. I'm not sure if there's a cutoff for "what is an RC" that's firmly drawn but the fact that 3 and 4 mmc are essentially in continuous production despite bans and that they're pretty popular MDMA alternatives does mean something. The signal to noise ratio when you're looking for deep cuts like obscure dissociatives is fairly annoying though.
Congrats on mod /u/Beelzebub

I'm unsure of your experience in this topic, do you have anything you would like to add?
I'm helping Newbie verify the Vendors.

I once smoked some stuff that made me forget how to get my leg over the bar on my pushbike.
I stood on the pedal and rode my bike like a scooter.
I got lost on the 3km ride home from my friend's place. I called my girlfriend for directions.
When she stopped laughing at me, she asked me for a street name. I was three blocks away from where I had lived for five years.

I was getting RC's from a company in the UK. Every time I ordered them, the company sent them to me. My bank refused the charges.
I've tried at least 10 different RC's. I have NFI what was in most of them. I was taking free mystery drugs for over a year.
Once a week is so much easier to keep track of. Is twice a week every 3 days or every 4 days?

Once a fortnight would be even better. The ads don't drown out the reviews that way.
Boofing exotic
cannabinoids.

will provide.
/u/TriskelionLambda
1 points
2 days ago
Positional analogues are probably the line that you're looking for. No ketamine, it has to be deschloroketamine; no methylphenidate, it has to be 4-fluoromethylphenidate.

That's the line.