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Where is the real K? Why is everyone hyping up product that is clearly not actual K? : ketamine | Torhoo darknet markets

This has been a problem for years on the dark net. I don't know what it is, but most K that is sold is NOT actual ketamine, and I think people simply don't realize it because they've never had real K or because they don't think their sources know how make a fake product that passes the popular reagent tests.

Aside from the subjective effects, which are of course hard to explain and compare, you should KNOW you aren't doing real K based on the duration. Most of the stuff being sold as K lasts 2-3 hours or more and has lingering after-effects for the entire day. Real ketamine should last an hour or so, and when it's over you are SOBER, like you could go take a math test or workout if you wanted without trouble.

Another obvious sign is that, if you can't K-Hole even on a huge dose, it's not ketamine(there may be some exceptions, especially if you take it nasally. Some "real" K has so much cut that it clogs your nose and can be hard to absorb enough to hole). I think the problem here is that many people, even experienced users, think that K-Hole means getting really really fucking high and lost in your head. If you are in this universe, you are not in a K-Hole. A test I just made up to know if you're in a K-Hole: Ask yourself where your body is, if it's where it's supposed to be then you're not in a K-Hole. If it's "back in the other world" then you might be in a lower-end K-Hole, or you could just be really high. If don't have a body, or you have a whole new body made of light or pixels or some random shit and you use it to travel around the ketamine-world and maybe even interact with ketamine-entities, then you are in a K-Hole.

As for the subjective effects, this fake K that's going around is much more confusing and disorienting. Even low doses will make you kinda forget wtf is going on or forget how you got where you are. I've had random and bizarre false memories on it. Moving my body is very uncomfortable and nauseating. And there isn't much difference between low and high doses, it just gets a little more intense the higher you go, while with K the experience completely changes at higher doses. Based on the subjective effects, it's possible this "fake K" that I hate so much is just R-Isomer(duration aligns with that too), but the difference is so distinct that it's hard to believe it's the same drug at all. Either way, if that is the case, then I guess what I'm asking for is how to find real S-Isomer K.

Just had to get that out. Now to the real question: for anyone who agrees with my views here, have you found any good vendors that sell real ketamine(or real S-Isomer K) and ship from the USA?

/u/JakeBlake420

2 points

11 months ago

RollingDeep is the only stuff I've gotten that is the absolute real deal

/u/Doghouseowner

2 points

11 months ago

/u/champagnepink

/u/ChampagnePink Vendor

1 points

10 months ago

Appreciate the shout -- @OP our K is lab-tested as legitimate by multiple sources btw. You can check the testers and reviews on the forums. Sold out until the weekend though

/u/hearts

1 points

11 months ago

I can confirm that 3rdWorld and CarmenSanDiego (caveat: Carmen did have a bunk batch recently, but they seem to be back on track) have good ketamine that tests and feels as such. From personal testing I would probably go with 3W, felt clean and not like the disorienting dirtier headspace of some of the other K that I've had. I've also seen CalvinKlein, RollinDeep, and Yolodump recommended.

What vendors are you going to and are you reagent testing what you're getting? 2-FDCK and DCK (and likely other related analogues) should test blue/gray on Morris if you have it.

/u/[deleted]

1 points

11 months ago*

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/u/hearts

1 points

11 months ago

I'd give a reputable seller like him some benefit of the doubt. Was it a gray blue? If so it was probably (2-F)DCK or some other analogue that also shows up that way. It would seem more possible that he wasn't lying about the bad batch and was being genuine about reshipping you new product? How long has it been since you placed your order? How is he selective scamming if he's offering to reship you his usual stock and not the bad batch he owned up to? Is he also open to refunding? Because if so, then that doubly isn't a selective scam.

Also I can't find the post you're referring to?

/u/monstera1017 📢

1 points

11 months ago

Actually just ordered 3rdworld, based largely on your review from a few days ago, so thanks for that :).

Won't be here for a few more days but I plan on posting back here once I try it, especially if it's good.

I think /u/smeyer above hit the nail on the head with the problem I've been having with darknet K, I was used to pure S-Isomer and most stuff being sold is racemic. After doing some research into the effects and duration of each isomer it makes perfect sense. Hopefully 3rdworld has decent s-isomer, can't really fault them if not though as long as it's real K, but apparently the R-Isomer just doesn't sit well with me

/u/hearts

1 points

11 months ago

Lmk how you like it, I personally thought it was great and felt like it was worthwhile for the next however many months. And yeah these vendors have no real way to know how pure their isomers are unless they're spectrometizing it lol

/u/deadhead888

1 points

11 months ago*

I agree with your k-hoke test. I haven't holed in years but a person definitely knows if they've actually holed because they will know without out a doubt and for certain that it has happened. It's like breaking thru on DMT; you'll know without question that you've broken thru. As for your question I know TrippyTuesdays sells real ketamine. I would like to try BestH1gh's stuff as they seem to have good reviews here. Champagne Pinks K about 4-5 months ago was super strong; I didn't hole I'm guessing because I'm on benzos but It had very strong mind-manifesting effect as well as an awesome body high. It also produced hallucinations that were definitely notable and created a memory of the experience that I'll never forget.Unfortunately the ketamine I had from them recently(about a month or so ago) was not nearly as potent as my first experience with them. I hope someone who has had a true experience holing has a good suggestion of a vendor that's not in the top 3 as you were explaining. I remember a few years back there was real k and it was going around for 80-90$ a gram. Maybe try the higher priced ketamine vendors? I don't know but I'm sure it's out there.

/u/TopDogShop Vendor

1 points

11 months ago

We have the real K from official pharma source.

/u/tatertots

1 points

11 months ago

wtf are you on about dude... I have personally tested products from multiple vendors with both reagent kits and GCMS testing and they all came back as ketamine

news flash, you can't k-hole off a huge dose because you have a drug problem, it's called tolerance

isomers aren't making a drug last 3 hours longer

maybe if you're cheap or you have a shitty vendor you might get some 2f-dck but frankly there's soooo much ket flooding the market from india and china that the rcs aren't really around as much

/u/TipperFam4Life

2 points

11 months ago

OP is correct! If you have tried actual phamaceutical K it does not compare to ANY of these vendors out there. I have tried numerous vendors time and time again. Yes the reagents might say it comes back as K, but the actual effects are not true. Real K is euphoric, slighly sticky (on the bag and the nose), duration of 30-45min, no clogging, no head fog, no yellow snot, and when it wears off nothing lingers. Im sick and tired of this. I don't know whats going on but none of these K listings are true ive tried damn near all of them and each of them mimic how actual K should be. I get a slight feeling from each listing, but each one has multiple side affects that prove the product is not true. I could go on all day about it, but it almost seems like a lost cause. The only vendor that I can truly say had something good was Dream7 and thats probaby why his prices were double the amount of anyyyy other vendor, and now dream has left. The game is all fucked up

/u/tatertots

2 points

11 months ago

The only scientific explanation I can offer for this is that a lot of the ket on the market right now has varying amounts of ketamine precursors leftover from a poorly done reaction. I have seen numbers upwards of 13% of a sample being precursor.

Again tho, look at your username, I know you've sniffed shitloads of K in your life. You know there's a permanent tolerance to this drug unlike any other. Many many ketamine addicts report similar diminishing results after long term use.

/u/hearts

1 points

11 months ago*

I'm inclined to agree with you. K-holing after the first time even lacking a permanent tolerance can leave you wishing for the first experience again, let alone people who are taking ket daily at high volumes. I've personally found diminishing effects from ketamine even at subhole doses where after repeated dosage I just start feeling gross on it rather than good. I think these people could use a long break tbh.

/u/tatertots

1 points

11 months ago

Ask me how I know, I've sniffed a few pounds of ket in my life

/u/TipperFam4Life

1 points

11 months ago

This is not a drug seeking comment. More along the lines that I am slightly frustrated with the inconsistency, and all the vendors advertising one thing and you get something completely wack. That's all it comes down to. If the kitty was real/clean we would not be here in the first place.

/u/monstera1017 📢

1 points

11 months ago

I have 0 tolerance to ketamine, do it twice a year and split 2gs with my wife each time.

I believe /u/smeyer seems to have identified exactly what I was trying to figure out, it seems I was lucky enough to get pure s-isomer ketamine my first few times and all the negative effects I've been getting from other K since then is because it's R-Isomer or at least racemic

/u/smeyer

1 points

11 months ago

The simplest answer to this is that most Ketamine is probably racemic isomer. I have a lot of experience, including with pharma vials of S-Ketamine using intramuscular injection. Being mostly sober within ~1 hour only applies to S-Ketamine. Which is not something that's being sold widely to my knowledge. Racemic and R have longer lasting effects. The only times I've been sober within a single injection within ~1 hour is using authentic S-Ketamine pharma vials. I have made my own solutions from powders and needles. But mostly they don't compare to the pharma vials I was able to acquire.

Also if you use a lot of Ketamine within a short time frame you will get magnesium depleted. If you ever noticed yourself getting robotic in your movements. As in being unable to have somewhat decent motor control of your muscles. Like walking, grabbing items or impeded speech. Taking a normal daily recommended dose of magnesium will resolve that within minutes. Just watch out you don't take to much, because it is also a laxative ^_^

I am not in the US. I am in Europe in a country that has a good supply of from what I can gather pure Ketamine. From what I've read of reviews from different vendors I've reviewed and used. Reviews mention they send out powder or needles for testing and it was tested as pure. From my many years of experience I can attest to the products quality. I can't comment on the situation outside of Europe.

/u/monstera1017 📢

1 points

11 months ago

I think you've nailed it. I did some more research on the duration/effects of each isomer and it definitely seems like that's the difference. Interestingly, dreamseven is one of the few good batches of S-isomer K I've gotten. Others are stdupont, ketaminespray(international for me), MrBlonde, and one batch from discover a long time ago that was by far the best shit I've ever had - since then I've tried them like 3 times and all were bad though.

Ty for the magnesium tip too, I recently started taking a magnesium glycinate supplement so I have some on hand for when my K gets here(tried ordering some from 3rdworld, I'll update my post here here once I try it)

/u/smurfdude

1 points

11 months ago

I get real s isomer k all the time. Lots of bs k is sold on the dn. 2fdck, cannket, etc. Sometimes k is sold cheap because it is cut with msm which on mandelin test kit also turns same color as k and has no reaction on morris test. I personally prefer racemic ketamine. Having the r isomer present gives me more of the body tranquilizer feeling.

/u/monstera1017 📢

1 points

11 months ago

Do you get your s-isomer on the dark web? Mind sharing any vendor names if so? I still haven't had any luck finding one on my own so if you have a recommendation I'd be eager to try it.

/u/smurfdude

1 points

11 months ago

Not normally. I have triad connections in USA.

/u/sandorrr

1 points

11 months ago

Have you tried RollingDeep yet? It might be what you are looking for.

/u/kitcommander

1 points

11 months ago

I agree to some extent. I think it is all a lot more complex than this though.

With that being said, the only domestic stuff I have holed on lately has been from CaliWholesale. When I can get stuff from a particular UK source...it is a different level. I have a high tolerance though and assume that is a big contributing factor as well as my nasal cavities and their absorption. I have tried many vendors over the years. There were some that were always great but are no longer available. Most these days are different feeling and/or hit or miss.

/u/XoticConnect Vendor

1 points

10 months ago

/u/c01e just did a review on our s isomer k feel free to check it out

/u/AvgDread

1 points

7 months ago

Bless you, I thought I was going fucking crazy trying to figure out which "strain" it was when I K-holed 4real once... Since i ran out of that stuff years ago I've been buying shitty fkin K that just gives that body feel but im STILL HERE.

Guess now I know the problem and the problem is that the K is ass