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Why Are Vendors So Lazy? : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

Seriously, why? If you said you shipped something, ship it. I don't get how that's so complicated.
/u/Lizario
4 points
10 months ago
As a vendor firstly let me tell you that if you're judging this off of informed delivery it is not always accurate, especially during or around holidays. Secondly, part of the reason for delayed shipments is the AF timer. As a buyer you fail to realize that at any point in time your favorite vendors have Tens of Thousands locked up, lubed up, and cheeks spread open for the markets admins to violate at their leisure. If I know my shipping takes 3 days MAX to land in your driveway I am not letting 4+ days of useless time pass with my money being in the aforementioned position. It can be frustrating but have a little chat with your vendor. See what they're being held back on. Your both just humans at the end of the day.
If you are doing a post here im pretty sure you are realy anoying as customer probably you text your vendor 10x once order is shipped. but bro you need to chill out texting vendor many time will just add him work. asking for track 20 time wont change anything probably for opsec reason he dont have track live with him because its can be with worker and he doesnt connect everyday with him. Checking track 10 time once you have it wont make the package landing faster and you increase your bad opsec. Just chill out and wait a week before texting any vendor you will get less headache realy.
You think vendor are lazy but you are not on a vendor side you dont know what is it to work everyday with crypto and money that can loose in value. so vendor need to manage when to cash out
You dont know what is it to restock on shipping material with keeping your opsec up.
You dont know what is it to get drug that sometime the driver get caught or many stuff happen.
You dont know what is it to take big losse of 10k+. when also these money come from a stressfull job
You dont know what is it to safely store big amount of drugs with no problem and no body trying to steal you.
You dont know what is to manage few people when it come to blackmarket work. already a normal job people are not following so dont you think its harder with these kind of job?
And futhermore you dont know what is it to manage hundreds of question a month on your chat when we are here to provide you drug not doing a mental health support to our stressful customer....

I clearly think you need to take a chill pill and never brag about Lazy vendors as you say in your post and your putting all vendor in same basket. That show some imaturity from your part. And if a vendor say ship on monday and it get ship on wednesday its not a big problem buddy its life you need to chill out im pretty sure he does his best because its not in vendor goal to keep fund in escrow so complaining will only put more pressure when all we need is to be relax in these world.
If you cant wait for your crystal meth to arrive with delay just go buy in the street and dont complain after
/u/dmw2024
1 points
10 months ago*
he never said all vendors, you read that into it. he's complaining about the ones who are dishonest about when they ship. they give you several days to accept and several more to mark shipped. if you're not comfortable marking shipped exactly when you actually ship, wait a day or two after shipping to mark it, you have 4 days after accepting to ship and mark. maybe some first-time clients will bug you about why hasn't it shipped when it has but you haven't updated, just ignore them for a day and then mark it; when it actually arrives earlier than they expected, they won't worry or bother you in the future. and many vendors have on their profile 'all orders ship by X time next shipping day', or send an automated message to the same effect. if a vendor can't do this, they shouldn't claim that they do. if they don't advertise a service, customers won't expect it from them, and won't be miffed if they don't get it. if you personally don't do any of this as a vendor none of what people are saying here applies to you so you shouldn't get bent out of shape - if anything you should pride yourself on being better than other vendors. if what he is talking about is something you regularly do, then either ignore the thread, or accept criticism from your clientbase, it's up to you but he has a right to complain if the people he is doing business with are being dishonest - and based on my experience on modern DNMs, they most likely are.
/u/partytime
3 points
10 months ago
Shipped usually means packaged and ready to drop, mate. Drop might take place the folowing day, and pickup of the package might take another day. Packages are rarely dropped right at the post office.
/u/awfulname
2 points
10 months ago
I feel like you are venting frustration about bad experiences with a vendor or maybe even a few vendors.
I don't think it's fair to judge all vendors based on whatever may have happened to you.
/u/Scrapple
2 points
10 months ago
I have made orders with 3 of the vendors that have commented on this post. And they literally all are very clear about their shipping times (also super shout out to /u/awfulname over here btw, who literally got me my order like a week early. Still gotta write him a review I promise I'll do it soon).

In addition to what the smarter people said, I really think that it is important to remember the scales of the vendor you are using. There are vendors that aren't working alone. I won't name drop, but I know a 3 person team who vends. One receives the order and does support, one packages/marks as shipped, and one drops them in the post. Often times the next day. For a smaller/solo vendor, the same thing is true. You spend all day accepting orders, customer service, and packaging. Then at that point the post won't even leave the postbox for another day.

Have you ever ordered something from Amazon? Amazon will only notify you that your package has been shipped once it's packaged and ready to leave the warehouse. Same thing.
/u/ez2r3member
1 points
10 months ago
Ok wel I win disputes all the time on market when the vendor marks an order as shipped, but informed delivery says otherwise.

Easy dispute for me.
/u/Scrapple
1 points
10 months ago
Is that attitude why your dread score is like that?
/u/ez2r3member
2 points
10 months ago
probably , just give it some time and admin will reset it back to 0.

It has been done before.
/u/ez2r3member
1 points
10 months ago
“Dread score is not an accurate representation/measurement of anything meaningful”

- paris
/u/Scrapple
1 points
10 months ago
Ik, just busting ur balls
/u/b1ankface P
1 points
10 months ago
Its always a good idea to order in advance
/u/realrichnigga
1 points
10 months ago
not sure, you cant be lazy and commit crimes unless you want to get fucked over. If you are lazy as a vendor you are most likely lazy with your opsec and your customers and then when you get caught your buyer is fucked too.
/u/AnotherOne99
0 points
10 months ago
There are a TON of lazy vendors. Small pill press operations just aren't a big priority for law enforcement, so unless you basically offer yourself up on a platter, they can keep going for many years without a problem even when they have some major gaps in their game.
/u/longflourishforever
1 points
10 months ago
idk if people are lazy. most aren't in my experience if they are sane and sober minded. it's when you start doing sketchy shit and you are throwing a bunch of drugs in your system that the body gets all wacky and people arent' on their game.
/u/AnotherOne99
1 points
10 months ago
The drug game is easy money. It attracts lazy people by its very nature. Their turnover is high, because they develop a bad reputation or get caught, but there are always a TON of them around at any one time; they just aren't the exact same people from one month to the next.
Vendor could have multiple orders to prep. If you want faster ship times then you should order from a larger vendor who has more staff.
/u/porkypig
1 points
10 months ago
Its you, :)
/u/Gambetta
1 points
10 months ago
the only reason i can see is for OPSEC reasons which is a valid reason
other than this yea i think is little stupid to say shipped actually means prepared or something
/u/JonDough
1 points
10 months ago
You lazy
you only sell on 3 market
I sell on ten market!
/u/AngieJ P
2 points
10 months ago
FOUR JOBS?? I GOT 15 JOBS!!!!!
/u/MinusMacher
1 points
10 months ago
It's "so complicated", because a vendor is risking a lot of jail time. He just doesn't go to the post office five minutes from home. You have to really think about the spot you use and checking it earlier and never using it again.

You wanna vend for two years and ship from Monday to Friday? That's 5 shipments per week. 104 weeks * 5 = 520 different spots.
/u/BluesTraveler
1 points
10 months ago
2 words...Plan ahead.
/u/GothamAdmin
1 points
10 months ago
Not All vendors re lazy but their might be few lazy Vendors maybe you misunderstood being busy by work as laziness. Just commenting to earn good score so that I create my own subdread???!
/u/Larry_Tate
1 points
10 months ago
I've had good and bad experiences with vendors in this area. I know Informed Delivery sometimes doesn't work, and the tracking wont update sometimes until the day of delivery. However, once you receive it and you check the tracking and you see "Acceptance" was actually 4 days from the day you placed the order, then you know they probably didn't drop it in the blue box until the 3rd or 4th day.

If that's too long for you, then you don't do business with them again. If, however, they have great shit, and everything else checks out, you can always mention it in the feedback in a nice way, like: "5 stars across the board, if I could improve anything I wish the vendor would get the packs out sooner."

I've had them where they take 4-5 days, and I've had others that show on ID the same day or the next day at the latest consistently, and then still others that one order they seem to take their time, and the next order it's lightning fast. If you have an issue with it, I would start with the feedback. Many times, if the vendor gets enough complaints, they'll change their routine so they can meet their customers needs better.

It all depends on how competitive the market is for the item too. If they're the only one selling that particular item, they may not be as inclined to improve. If it's a saturated market, like lets say the US to US meth market, then they'd be smart to step up their game.

Best to start with a mention of your dissatisfaction in the feedback. Many times I've seen vendors improve from that one act alone.

' ~ FWIW ~ '

~😎️ Larry 😎️~
/u/longflourishforever
1 points
10 months ago
As somebody who used to vend and currently doesn't anymore....

There was always a moral dilemma for me. A paranoia almost that lingered in my mind at all times about getting caught, should I be doing this, etc... I dealt with it by abusing substances and blotting out my consciousness. That in turn severely effected my ability to ship and vend most of the time. I bet a lot of vendors do the same thing. It is a dark lonely life unless you are involved in organized crime and have a bunch of people around you doing the same shit. You can't really talk to anyone about what you do. You really can't flash money around. You are worried anytime you go to drop packs. You are worried you are going to get caught laundering btc or crypto. It's just a big fucking headache all the time. You isolate and become a crazy person.
/u/dmw2024
1 points
10 months ago*
I've noticed this as well. I hadn't used DNMs since agora. now I am back, and I have had exactly 1 pack out of 5 ship when it said it was shipping. all others took over a week to arrive (all with express or priority shipping), and most took at least a week to actually be accepted by the PO. in my 3 years on older DNMs, I only had 2 packs take over a week t2d, and both were international. it's not on. one didn't even have a label made for 5 days after it was marked shipped, and then actually went in the mail another 5 days after that, and only after badgering the vendor repeatedly. 4 days after marked shipped I asked for tracking; he said give it two days. two more days, then he finally gave me tracking only to find... he had JUST made the label. when AF was coming up 2 days later, I checked again, still not shipped, so I sent a message. another 2 days later I checked with him again. it finally showed received by PO first thing the next morning. I hate having to do this, and I never bother a vendor until it's a day past the end of the expected delivery window for the shipping class. this wouldn't fly on SR or agora, but I've had to accept it's just the new normal.