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Why do vendors mark orders shipped long before its actually shipped? : DarkNetMarkets | Torhoo darknet markets

So many times I have made an order and it was immediately marked shipped, then two or three days later the shipping label shows up on informed delivery. Why would the vendors do that? Some markets have a feature that shows how long a vendors packages take to show up on average, using the date it was marked shipped and the date that it was finalized. If they mark the orders shipped days early, it makes it look like it takes way longer than it actually does to get the order. It also makes the auto finalize timer start when there isn't even a shipping label made yet, so people are more likely to have to dispute the order.
Are the vendors hoping people will forget to extend the timer or dispute? Are they using the "order shipped" status as the "order accepted" status? It just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. I understand marking a batch of orders shipped and then dropping them off so you don't forget, but some of these vendors mark stuff shipped days before they even make the shipping label.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, it's probably a really obvious answer but I can't think of why vendors would do this.

/u/JoeExotic P TURTLE KILLER!

1 points

3 days ago

once they mark it shipped the 'auto-finalize' timer begins which means is a shorter wait for them to get paid.
some less-than-scrupulous vendors do it because they want to catch buyers sleeping/slipping and miss the timer.

you can always extend the timer before it expires instead of opening a dispute.

/u/Hektor

1 points

3 days ago

It is called opsec, expecially when tracked option is used.
Imagine LE buying from vendor multiple times, and multiple times they get confirmation about where is sent, trap can be done easy to get him dirty.

/u/jedi_outcast 🍼

1 points

3 days ago

Seems an efficient route, but maybe backwards who knows. If they mark all shipped, have a list of Addis to march product, they spend a day or 2 packing and labeling it all before the drop.
You could say why not do all that before marking shipped but then again it's the same method, just opposite direction.
People are different and thankfully so. I paid an invoice Friday night, it was marked shipped but I can't see a label yet either, but it was the weekend so it'll probably show today as it's set in a pile to go out.

/u/babyturtle 🍼

1 points

3 days ago

because they try to scam you.

/u/Scottyvegas99

1 points

3 days ago

It really annoys me when vendors do this that’s why I only order from vendors that ship it same day or next day..if they can’t do that I move on to the next unless it’s just a crazy good deal I’ll deal w a few day wait but I always have a vendor or 2 that I know will ship same day if I need it quick

/u/desnelweg

1 points

3 days ago

Some markets simply do not have the option to 'accept' an order, instead the only option is mark 'shipped' or 'completed'.
Usually as a vendor when you mark an order as shipped the buyer address is wiped from the order log at the vendors side.
So when an order is marked shipped, its usually safe to assume the vendor has packaged your order, printed postage and its in his bag to drop at the post office today or in accordance to the shipping schedule they advertise.

/u/cthulhuskittens

1 points

3 days ago

maybe this used to be an excuse, but every market i've used in the last 3 years has had the option to mark as "accepted" or "confirmed" then later mark "shipped" or "processed." the terminology varies from market to market but the function does not.

/u/OaklandGlaze

1 points

3 days ago

yeah, in my experience, the good vendors don't do this. But it's all about people not finalizing right away, so they try to get it there right around when it would finalize. I finalize asap, so, to me this is bullshit, and especially when the label is printed like 4 days after it's marked shipped, I'm definitely extending auto-finalize regardless. Sorry, but rules exist for a reason and bending them is just disrespecting the system. I don't ship to my home, so I can't just pick up and test immediately and finalize, especially when the market is down.
However, some buyers may ALWAYS let things auto-finalize, and I'm sure that's annoying for the vendor. You don't really want vendors keeping detailed records, but would be nice if there was a stat on the buyer's profile how long it takes them to finalize, so the vendor knows.

/u/mycogoku

1 points

3 days ago

Depends on their process. Some might do a spreadsheet where they collect addresses from orders from the different markets they are on. If a vendor is on 5-10 different markets its not as efficient to keep logging in and out clicking back and forth and doing it one at a time whenever its ready to ship. But honest/good vendors probably do it so they get paid on time. A lot of markets set 7day/14 day AF timers but the order might get there in 3-5 days and a lot of buyers never finalize their order so it might be a way the vendor can get their payment in a timely manner so their business can continue run efficiently.

/u/Jattap01

1 points

3 days ago

I think some do it so they can say the ship same day as a selling point. but they aint fooling anyone

/u/MaxPayneUK

1 points

3 days ago

Nah not stupid I think you make a valid point and I'lll explain and give a few.

It's a bit of a scumbag thing to do but it happens and i have been guilty of it i admit but lets say i process order and drop off the next day sort of thing.

1. They want their money quicker that timer starts means closer to them getting funds.
2. Like I said sometimes its packed and simply just requires a drop off and they process then but maybe LE is doing checks and see when its processed they could link the times to the vendor so it's just to kind of make it vague for when it's been posted.

I want to add I only do this once i know its going within that 24 hour period i don't process otherwise and communicate with customer if i have issues fulfilling the order.

/u/aloe

1 points

3 days ago

Some might say it is good for OPSEC, but I say find a better vendor that does not do this. Not all do.

/u/cthulhuskittens

1 points

3 days ago

it makes perfect sense from a business standpoint if you're an unscrupulous vendor hoping your customer loses track of time & lets it autofinalize before receiving the product (a lot of people will assume just bc they see a label that the product is on its way, even though the product itself might still turn out to be bunk or worse the package empty). there is an opsec factor also in that you don't want people to be able to triangulate your drop times but that doesn't justify sitting on packs for days at a time. in my view it would be far better opsec to vary label creation times ahead of AND after the time packs are marked shipped. doing them all after just makes you look like a lazy SOB, which most of these vendors are.