Sorry you had a bad experience with us based on your comments 5/10, we do always strive for quality but let me give some information which might help you and others.
Firstly, personally I am a very experienced MDMA user and have probably consumed way to much over the course of the last 15 years but it has also allowed me to see things others probably wouldn't when it comes to this subject.
1. We did have a cola batch for about a month (we just couldn't get anything else from supplier) but it still tested as very high on ez-test, we now have a more pure / champagne color MDMA which is like the stuff we used to get (probably the most pure MD I've seen in some time)
2. Wombat has been selling actively on the markets for a long time and has been very consistent in his product, definately don't diss the vendors because it's the suppliers really at fault (it's not like we are cooking the stuff ourselves)
3. MDMA can come in a variety of color, smells and even shapes or forms, this is mainly due to different techniques to 'cook' or produce a batch of MDMA which could include different productions methods and precursors used. There are also certain byproducts as well with some of these reactions which can actually intensify the experience meaning some MDMA is stronger then others, especially those with routes inducing MDA as a byproduct. But over the years most MDMA is made from PMK (synthetic version) from China, there is some speculation that this is not racemic in isomer which may cause the MDMA to also have this faint giving less then amazing symptoms even if the purity is very high.
4. I've had the ultra pure MDMA that gamma goblin used to produce overseas, it was deadset crystal clear basically, purified intensely and strangly it was lackluster compared to some cola MDMA I got from Inc many years ago which had me floored after just 120mg (which is VERY unusual) but occasionally you run into these 'batches' where it's produced differently or a different precursor was used - usually I will store this for personal use haha because it's so rare but if I had large enough amounts I would sell it of course.
Basically what I'm saying is that color, rocks, powder, shapes, smell means absolutely nothing. You can have a batch of dirty looking black MDMA and be off your head, compared to an ultra pure near clear batch which is certainly 95%+ , even at festivals people have done this with the purity machines, two different lots, the less pure one was actually much stronger and 'magic' compared to the other .. it's a puzzle really. But each batch is different and unfortunately even purity tests won't tell us the fate of it.
As someone who is not that experienced with MDMA, the frustration of wasting nights is killing me. I have used your products before and had a great time. Makes it bloody hard to get pumped up for a night, when you don't know if you're going to be flying or bored out of your brains.
lol what a sick reply. I definitely know what you mean regarding certain batches. I remember getting a quarter of this mdma from someone on a market 4-5 years ago was cheap as chips think it cost me £50 and this stuff was ridiculously trippy (I suspect it was mda potentially) but it’s so true that some batches have varying levels of character especially when certain isomers come into play (safrole cook. Mdp2p.. )
Actually ordered and got odd dark/oily batch from wombat and was also puzzled by colour/consistency.
Ended up doing a wash as put off a bit by consistency, and apart from washing the oil away with acetone wash - looks nearly identical to any other cola MD I've ever had.
Ended up probably ~10% under normal purity, all just in this oily material. Otherwise as good MD as I've had.
As fohshiz said above, likely a chemical masking layer.
I encourage you to hit wombat up I'm sure they can help get any issues you had sorted.
yeah I've started to think along those lines. I've (only) just learned how to do an acetone wash. I'm guessing that's the first step in cleaning it up? Then I recrystalize it? How on earth do I do that?
Recrystallization is pretty simple most common and simple being IPA or di water recrystallization by seeding the solution and very, very slowly bringing down the temperature.
Take two jars. Put the pulverized, washed and dried MDMA in one (after etching the bottom to seed the crystal) and isopropyl alcohol in the other. Put the alcohol over the stove in a water bath and bring to a gentle boil. Let it cool a bit and cover the MDMA just enough that the MDMA can saturate. The slower the alcohol cools, the better crystals you'll have. Best to slowly work it down to room temperature then eventually put it in the fridge.
Once it's done you'll have fat, clear crystals that you place in a coffee filter and pour cold acetone over as a final step. Let the crystals dry and voilà.
hi /u/Wombat-Vendor can i contact you about this? i bought your dark brown crystals and it honestly was the worst mdma ive ever had unfortunately, split it with mates and we took 240mg each with two of us having 360mg... the latter had somewhat of a roll but they described it as a floaty chill feeling whilst us that took 240 felt next to nothing, in fact the only effects we had were sweating and a mild headache and for me it made me feel out of it and kind of depressed until the next day. its not tolerance related as i havent touched it in close to a year and never fried myself on it prior.
cheers
Odd. i washed the oily gunk off mine and took just over 100mg and had, well, a typical 100mg roll. Might try bigger dosage next weekend and report back. It is definitely a possibility this batch has crazy variability tho, I've never seen MD look like that batch before.
yea it was odd, ive also never ordered from wombat before but my order was overweight by a whole gram and some change... not sure if thats something they regularly do or if they knew this batch is really bad and trying to get rid of it quickly. the irony is that i only bought it cuz the product is literally titled high quality mdma and im quite ocd about putting impure shit in my body. c'est la vie tho
This sucks. I'm sorry to hear about that experience with you and your mates. That's a real bummer and I take responsibility. Message me on market and we'll try sort something out. Fuck I hope it's not a big order.
If it's not tainted (and "just" low purity) then there's always the ol' "just take more" approach - but it sounds like you're saying it's had unusual negative consequences?
There are conflicting reports. But there’s an argument that it’s not “High Quality”.
It might be time to finally take a trip to ol’ CANTest.
Sorry you had a bad experience with us based on your comments 5/10, we do always strive for quality but let me give some information which might help you and others.
Firstly, personally I am a very experienced MDMA user and have probably consumed way to much over the course of the last 15 years but it has also allowed me to see things others probably wouldn't when it comes to this subject.
1. We did have a cola batch for about a month (we just couldn't get anything else from supplier) but it still tested as very high on ez-test, we now have a more pure / champagne color MDMA which is like the stuff we used to get (probably the most pure MD I've seen in some time)
2. Wombat has been selling actively on the markets for a long time and has been very consistent in his product, definately don't diss the vendors because it's the suppliers really at fault (it's not like we are cooking the stuff ourselves)
3. MDMA can come in a variety of color, smells and even shapes or forms, this is mainly due to different techniques to 'cook' or produce a batch of MDMA which could include different productions methods and precursors used. There are also certain byproducts as well with some of these reactions which can actually intensify the experience meaning some MDMA is stronger then others, especially those with routes inducing MDA as a byproduct. But over the years most MDMA is made from PMK (synthetic version) from China, there is some speculation that this is not racemic in isomer which may cause the MDMA to also have this faint giving less then amazing symptoms even if the purity is very high.
4. I've had the ultra pure MDMA that gamma goblin used to produce overseas, it was deadset crystal clear basically, purified intensely and strangly it was lackluster compared to some cola MDMA I got from Inc many years ago which had me floored after just 120mg (which is VERY unusual) but occasionally you run into these 'batches' where it's produced differently or a different precursor was used - usually I will store this for personal use haha because it's so rare but if I had large enough amounts I would sell it of course.
Basically what I'm saying is that color, rocks, powder, shapes, smell means absolutely nothing. You can have a batch of dirty looking black MDMA and be off your head, compared to an ultra pure near clear batch which is certainly 95%+ , even at festivals people have done this with the purity machines, two different lots, the less pure one was actually much stronger and 'magic' compared to the other .. it's a puzzle really. But each batch is different and unfortunately even purity tests won't tell us the fate of it.
Hope this helps!
As someone who is not that experienced with MDMA, the frustration of wasting nights is killing me. I have used your products before and had a great time. Makes it bloody hard to get pumped up for a night, when you don't know if you're going to be flying or bored out of your brains.