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Working on it - DDOS. : AbacusMarket | Torhoo darknet markets

Lot of traffic these days coming after Arch market died. So well, just recently Daunt has been malfunctioning and ddos got very bad for us. But everything is fine, between ddos and plenty new users using the market, we need some adjustments.

I am working on it, sorry for the inconveniences and of course as usual thank you for your patience.

Please do not fall for phishing links.

I will let you know when market is up again
/u/HugBunter A
33 points
1 week ago*

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Edit: Redacting this comment for now, Vito is in contact with me and I will only post an update if deemed necessary. I've been assured that he is working on getting the market back online, so we will go from here. If it wasn't coming back, there wouldn't be much reason for him to still be here right now.
/u/jake0126
17 points
1 week ago*
Thanks /u/Vito for taking the time to post an update, but it’s hard to accept this at face value given the circumstances. The market had significant withdrawal delays for days, and now all mirrors are completely offline with no partial service, no static status page, and no fallback communication except this single Dread post.

Even under serious DDoS or heavy traffic spikes, it’s extremely rare for a professional market to fully pull down every mirror simultaneously. Typically, there would be at least one mirror, or a lightweight onion status page, or even a signed PGP broadcast confirming the situation. That’s what any market with a functional team and a genuine intention to restore service would do, keep some line of verifiable communication open.

Shutting everything down right after extended withdrawal problems and then making a post like this one after going completely offline is exactly the pattern we’ve seen in countless past exit scams. It buys time, silences complaints, and prevents users from tracking the flow of funds while they vanish.

If you genuinely intend to come back online, why not post cryptographic proof of solvency? Sign a message with the market/Your known PGP key, and show an on-chain transaction from the wallet you normally use to fund withdrawals, proving you still control those funds. That would go a long way to rebuild confidence. Otherwise, the total silence from the site and the timing after withdrawal freezes make this look like a textbook exit.

If you truly are coming back, I hope you’ll provide stronger proof and a more resilient comms plan, because right now, there is no reason for users to trust the situation.
/u/Ratchet_Man 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
Well said.
/u/jake0126
1 points
1 week ago*
thank you.
/u/WebRider75955d
1 points
1 week ago
I agree this is a classic scam exit
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
I don't think so. Looks more like LE imo. If it was an exit they would've milked it way more. Things are pointing to LE in general, and it feels like the archetyp bust before the seizure banner went up.
/u/WebRider75955d
1 points
1 week ago
Do you think the site was seized?
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
Things are pointing to that, we'll know for sure when we see a seizure banner.
/u/WebRider75955d
1 points
1 week ago
[removed]
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
/post/70820af7f8f4c7911bb6 has the Superlist markets, these are generally recommended.
/u/jedi_knight_errant
1 points
1 week ago
I agree because there's absolutely no recourse for someone to just post behind a keyboard saying this or that.
I got in yesterday no problems, today says Address Not Found.
I lost money in Versus and Archetyp, thankfully my order from the weekend was accepted and shipped first thing Monday morning.
Sux if AB is exiting that the vendor won't get his money but I don't feel bad bc I lost money twice now but it's just an ounce of weed so he'll be alright. Hopefully vendors have been saving some money, how TF could you not?
And yesterday someone wrote AB homie doesn't use /u/vito anymore but used a different handle, and being this post isn't signed those 2 facts are sketchy.
I miss fuckin with PP on tele but tele went snitch.
/u/9ultra9rebel9
1 points
1 week ago
I legit withdrew 20k from abacus before this happened. I might have to start going to church because I think God just saved my ass, LOL
/u/dreadprivateroberts
1 points
1 week ago*
i always withdraw anything i can get . my experience that no market is safe to leave money on they are pop ups lol
here today gone tomorrow. so always withdraw
/u/9ultra9rebel9
1 points
1 week ago
yep, and with all the recent drama going on and warnings about further market seizures post arch I figured I wouldn't take chances. I'm thankful I never used arch to buy anything. For whatever reason I just didn't like the UI or all the hoops you have to jump through to gain access. Same with dark matter.
/u/dreadprivateroberts
1 points
1 week ago
100 percent a exit !!! he aint coming back. i know what a exit looks like i have witnessed many . no market goes offline that much time customers wouldn't even trust it if it were to come back i wouldn't trust it and no longer sell nothing on there.

here we go again since archetyp bounced looks like we will go thru a period of unstable bullshit exit games by other markets.
abacus was online 5 years now all the sudden he starts having problems = bullshit
/u/ASS_MAN 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Well to be fair Abacus was offline for several days a few months ago and came back.
/u/dreadprivateroberts
1 points
1 week ago
he better come back if he doesnt and if he ever gets caught imma put the word out that he will he getting butted fuked in the slammer every day. cops is one thing but the gangs inside you dont wanna steal from us dealers. no one screws us over and get away with it clean. you should see what we did to that incognito admin we make him eat off the floor in jail like a rat. and other abuse that i dare dont wanna get into detail here we own him forever.
/u/skipperd
1 points
1 week ago
My boys also will find and take physical action against anyone fucking with our money.
/u/dreadprivateroberts
1 points
1 week ago
agreed put the word out any admin that steals if caught aint never getting out of jail alive. theres a code we live by you steal its the end for that admin. this happened to many times to ignore its time they realize who they are dealing with and how serious this is.
/u/snakeinthetrash
1 points
1 week ago
This is what make's me think this is just some kind of cyber, DDoS, bitcoin node replacement, bullshit and this markets going to be up and running soon. Real soon. Lots of people's money being fucked with right now, and in this metaverse world, you can run but never hide.
/u/gambien 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
To be honest I see why he exited, Arche and Abascus lasted a long time, he prob watched that LE vid with the " was it all worth it " bs at the end, and said you know what I'm gonna not be greedy and leave before im next. I mean they were both 5 yeaar markets right?
/u/dreadprivateroberts
1 points
1 week ago*
i guess but that screws the vendors over thats what i am mad about atleast pay the vendors ... if u piss off the vendors and you end up in jail as a admin we will abuse and rape you everyday we will make you ur life in jail worse then hell. youll be everybodies bitch to the point that you will need a diaper for the rest of ur life.
/u/skipperd
1 points
1 week ago
The best way to handle it Yes. My company seeks, finds and destroys.
/u/DojaDesperado P
4 points
1 week ago*
Probably doesn't mean anything, but /u/Vito hasn't signed a single message on this account ever.

So not signing this message is not abnormal based on his account history.

EDIT: I was not correct here. Below a user linked a couple signed posts form /u/Vito.
/u/HugBunter A
3 points
1 week ago*
It is abnormal under any circumstance for an update like this. He would sign an important update.

Edit: see top comment
/u/v4ndal11
2 points
1 week ago
Observation. Why do markets get DDOSed to fuck before being busted? Does the DDOS expose them somehow? Im not very technical but it cant be a coincidence.
/u/HugBunter A
3 points
1 week ago
Markets are always being attacked. Its likely many were exposed due to attacks, but an attack isn't getting them busted and seized in such a short period.
/u/v4ndal11
1 points
1 week ago
I wasnt connecting it to abacus as such. It just seems to be a pattern of massive sustained ddos then bust.
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1 week ago
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/u/richymac81 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Do you no anymore safe ways to get onto abacus I been using tor.taxi be greatful for any advice
/u/studentofnature 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Well if your onion links are all getting spammed to hell with ddos, I can see a dev taking some extra risks to try and combat it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened to archetype. Apparently they were getting ddosed by another market and was mostly paralyzed for over a month. Would not be surprised at all if the law found him as a result of this squabble and some mistakes that happened during it.
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1 week ago
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/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
1 week ago
Popped?
/u/DarkBay
1 points
1 week ago
75% chance of Exit. But with Archetyp seized and influx of traffic we have seen this in the past.

Our server for DBay (DarkBay) /d/dbay back in 2019 had weirdly bugged out. We decided it was safer to not access it again.

Even though the host assured us that the files could be restored. Few months after DarkMarket got taken down by LE.

Moral of the story never be #1, Play it safe by the book.
/u/FrenchyFarm P Abacus Vendor
3 points
1 week ago
The boss of Archetype was saying the same thing, I believe. He said everything was fine, that there had just been some issues, and that he needed maintenance. He’s using the same kind of language as what he’s saying now, don’t you think?
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
1 week ago
Perhaps, but if you go back through all the comms market admin have posted any time there has ever been issues or attacks with markets where things just went back to normal, they probably all sound very similar I would think.

Hello, everything is fine. We're fixing it. Don't worry. This is what happened, Sorry about that etc.
/u/FrenchyFarm P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
You maybe right , i hope so
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
Easy style to copy by LE though at the same time. And undoubtably they learned from their last fuckup with the off grammar and punctuation.
/u/JESUS
2 points
1 week ago
He do sign. Check his previous posts.

/post/1e1bd079805850cb317e
/post/a18e1328420deb0008ec
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
sho enuff do
/u/DojaDesperado P
1 points
1 week ago
100% I stand corrected. I went through all the posts. Must have missed those.
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
I thought the same initially. He doesn't sign replies/comments but did sign posts.
/u/YagDuck
1 points
1 week ago
So.... Where to now?

Doja, wanna DM me or someone of Doja's level of trust? Or just post it if that's allowed

PH is hell to navigate, it's like a rip off and I don't know of any other real others anymore
/u/Theboss1985
3 points
1 week ago
You should probably make a post instead giving out this caution because most people won't find it burried I'm this post.
/u/UrPal
2 points
1 week ago
This.
I know you want to wait and make sure, but HB if you're uncertain about anything please tell the users so they don't let their guard down.
/u/NextGeneration TOP UK Vendor
3 points
1 week ago*
Abacus it was a fun run.
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
The DNM cycle continues
As always! High five!
/u/MaxPayneUK
2 points
1 week ago
I mean didn't YosemiteGhostWrite do the same though.
/u/HugBunter A
1 points
1 week ago
No, completely different situation
/u/MaxPayneUK
1 points
1 week ago
Mind my ignorance but how so I know arche had edits to the page when under work, but apart from that whats made you feel more confident.
/u/Meliodas
2 points
1 week ago
Hey /u/HugBunter did Vito happen to give you anymore updates since this redacted message? Also haven't seen you post anything since around the time of this post....everything alright bud? Never really seen you not post in an entire day lol
/u/crackheaddom101 P
1 points
1 week ago
I agree with huggybuggy, Also if it was DDOS real PRIVATE mirrors would work without issues. In this case the backend plug is unplugged so please plug it back in
/u/robertpaulson P
2 points
1 week ago
and private mirrors were working 100% and lighting fast until yesterday when they took the whole thing down to most likely implement changes so traffic isn't a problem anymore... obviously this all started with the RPC node since addresses we're not listing or rotating
/u/RechardSport Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
I always doubt anti-DDOS method by private mirrors.
Frontend connects to backend database, when ddos begins, the database will be taken down, so that private mirror cannot open either.
Unless each private mirror has its own database on an independent server, but it's impossible to do, it's very costly, 1000 vendors' mirrors will need 1000 servers and not to mention complicated sync setup among these 1000 servers.
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/u/realMagneticMan 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I can't speak to their specific strategy, but I would assume each mirror is rate limited to restrict the number of sessions that it can pass to the backend. Once the mirror saturated, it can't pass any more traffic to overwhelm the database. You can do a lot of other cool load balancing stuff with virtualization and networking. As long as the private mirrors aren't publicized, I think it's a pretty good strategy, but there are many other DDoS attack vectors that need to be mitigated as well.
/u/Mantis1 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
this reply is much more helpful than the main post. Thank you HB
/u/bill4689 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Legend!!! Please keep us updated
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Positive news - the lack of PGP access suggests Vito is not cooperating.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
1 week ago
Thank you for this update Hug.
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
Could you pass along this message to him for us?

FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT Frymeme.jpeg
/u/elbobo
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks for the update (pre and post edit), appreciate it.
/u/blogger P
1 points
1 week ago
You sure this isn't the same DDOS attacker that archetyp had before it got busted?
/u/sus123321 🍼
1 points
1 week ago*
it is being attacked on a daily basis, i wrongfully accused whoisteam without verifying but someone seems to be attacking the markets
/u/whoisteam
1 points
1 week ago
Not us!

/post/64cd48bc069a609b9b56/?sort=new#c-b477290ede2e6b3749

Abacus will never be the same again.
/u/sus123321 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
if its truly not you then i apologize and will remove any mention of your name, i was under the impression it was you guys, i will take a step back and admit i was wrong if you are being truthful, i apologize
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
why isnt it you? isnt that what you do?
/u/blogger P
1 points
1 week ago
I don't think whoisteam would do it tbh, but LE. DAMN I just have a feeling this shit is getting busted, but Imma pray for this to be fixed and that nobody will get arrested. You're in my prayers /u/Vito , get this market up and running again
/u/dreadreminder2025 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
/post/14a1348cfe9bef8d3c9f

Sir, you are still missing the canary PGP signature. Same goes for Paris.
Yes, this is a babybottle Account.
What about taking accountability? Is Dread probably more owned by LE than users actually thought?
Where is AngieJ? Somehow not into those Abacus related topics.
Just weird nah.
But anyways, some people might be busy with their Youtube Accounts, who knows.
What a shitshow, fooling buyers and sellers at the same time. Again and again.
I feel sad for both.
Good luck.
/u/HugBunter A
1 points
1 week ago
Mine was updated yesterday and likely won't be updated on time next Monday because I only do it on request for the most part.
/u/OlympusHasFallen 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
/u/HugBunter did you happen to check if Vito currently has access to the PGP?
/u/gurkin
1 points
1 week ago
The thlot pickens!
/u/Stahlkappe 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Hey /u/HugBunter, are there any news you could provide regarding the current situation? Its been more than a day since the Market went offline.
You are surprisingly quiet, is there anything happening?
I dont understand why there is no clarification from Abacus side.
There has to be at least one or two persons that could give more input, but there was nothing more than a unsigned Post from Vito.

kind regards!
/u/Laughingbanana
1 points
1 week ago
/u/Hugbunter It's been a day, this isn't a posted/pinned to the front page, I had to hunt this post down to be able to know what was going on with the market, and its just all sus. One update. Same as Archtyp. I wanna believe the market wouldn't be taken down but it seems it's true. Alot of fishy things going on.

I don't wanna be that guy, but I feel like something big is coming. Maybe this antidarknet and whoisteam are some real serious threats
/u/QualiMoon Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Who even are you??

~QM
/u/N1Team Abacus Vendor
1 points
11 hours ago
/u/HugBunter
/u/Vito

IF MARKET SAYS THERE ARE ISSUES WE STAND. IN EVERY WAY MARKET KNOWS! STANDIND YEARS SOLID, AND IF IT NEEDS TO RESTART OR REFRESH THE MARKET KNOWS! Thank you Abacus Market! we stand! N1TM-n1team-leader! be well!
/u/Theboss1985
0 points
1 week ago
/u/hugbunter update response: there would be if the feds seized the funds and now want to turn it into a honey pot?
/u/HugBunter A
1 points
1 week ago
If that was the case they'd have tried to ensure it was a lot smoother than this. I can't say what will happen either way, but right now my comment was meaningless, the market is down and he's in communication with me. I have to believe he is working on it and things will be ok.
/u/Fmnicant
2 points
1 week ago
Dealing with the public is brutal your a true hero
/u/spaincartel Abacus Vendor
0 points
1 week ago
thanks, and thanks admin for update if its really u guys,
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
there hasn't been a single instance of an existing market being seized and then being ran as a honey pot... it would mess with LE cases to much and bring in issues of entrapment yadda yadda. Why would they mess with a sure conviction by muddying the waters with additional steps
/u/Stahlkappe 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
never heard of hansa?
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
Yes, they used a code bug to enter the market and collect data... now have you ever heard the definition of a honeypot?
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
4 points
1 week ago
But LE was actively running Hansa for a period of time. I remember reading where they had gotten overwhelmed with number of tickets and trying to mimic the admins. For your def of honeypot, would that include having to send out the product themselves, b/c yeah they didn't do that. But they did seize the market and run it for a period of time. THey hijacked PGP public keys I believe and presented their own in place of vendors. They also sent out an Excel sheet with a vuln that would fetch a resource online hoping to reveal vendors' IP Addresses.

Why would this not fit a honeypot?
/u/robertpaulson P
0 points
1 week ago
You aren't wrong in that instance but they already had everything they needed well before seizing it... they ran out of use because they had some many dead to rights from data collection so finally shut it down
/u/Theboss1985
1 points
1 week ago
Lmao new here clearly
/u/robertpaulson P
0 points
1 week ago
post proof or STFU
/u/ChuckJones
1 points
1 week ago
LE could operate a seized market without fulfilling orders- at least long enough to gather information, correlate data points, and make a few more arrests. Not exactly a honeypot... More like a sting?
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
absolutely they could, they just dont seem to do it much at all. I know in the USA they would face some legal troubles by doing so but I can't speak for EU
/u/workingnow P
7 points
1 week ago
Does it really take that long to update your clients on what the fuck is going on?
/u/dreddyforit 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
Agreed. We shouldn't support the idea that non-communication is the norm during security/website incidents. Anybody suggesting otherwise is actively working against the health of the community.
/u/ChuckJones
1 points
1 week ago
But... It's not a democracy, is it? And most people aren't there looking to trade xmr for a sense of community.

Next time LE is potentially breathing down your neck- and I'm guessing it takes state-level actors and resources to sustain the kind of DDoS attacks that every market (and Dread) has been suffering, in addition to the ones we've lost- are your first thoughts going to turn towards altruism?

Fuck no they're not.
/u/CaldorShopAdmin
1 points
1 week ago
Actually with AI it takes 1 person and not a lot of work at all imo
/u/robertpaulson P
0 points
1 week ago
And what good did it do? you're still here winning like a bitch... had they said this 3 days ago you'd be back in here today asking why its taking so long... They don't communicate because no matter what they say its not enough for you idiots
/u/workingnow P
5 points
1 week ago
I guess that WE are all idiots to give them our hard earned money.
/u/BurstBat
-1 points
1 week ago
I'd rather them spend the time sorting the issue than having to argue the toss with everyone about whether it's an exit or not. If it was we probably wouldn't hear about it 12 hours after it went down
/u/workingnow P
4 points
1 week ago
It can't take more than a minute to log into Dread and write a few sentences, right?
/u/BurstBat
1 points
1 week ago
When the crowd is whipped into up like that people are just going to argue, then if they don't answer the cycle continues. I'm not arguing that this isn't still concerning but if the option is fix it quickly or get stuck responding here. I know my preference
/u/getconnected4free
1 points
1 week ago
Well... he hasn't stuck around on this thread to reply to anyone yet, let alone the many other threads and comments on dread accusing the market of exitscamming or being taken over by LE. Nothing has yet been fixed, let alone quickly. It's not like a game where there two choices, between A) Fixing the market and B) Updating everyone, and choosing one locks you out of the other. It's a five minute (if even that) post, with no explanation beyond 'ddos and new user traffic'- it's hard to think of a real reason why this couldn't have been made yesterday.
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/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
I wouldnt say nothing has been fixed... XMR deposits were all caught up and new deposits were functioning normally. It wasn't until they started working on BTC deposits that they took everything down
/u/workingnow P
1 points
1 week ago
Do you still like the absence? The waiting? Huh?
/u/workingnow P
1 points
1 week ago
/u/ZynAddict
1 points
1 week ago
We are all wasting our breath. I bet, Abacus admins are on the beach drinking piña coladas right now.
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
6 points
1 week ago*
Man posts for the first time in 2 years after the market has unexpectedly crashed down and on a Tuesday no less. You couldn't post on a Sunday because your higher ups weren't at work?

Vito didn't snitch up his PGP keys. Respect him for that.
That means its serious.
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
6 points
1 week ago
Market goes down, admin disappears, admin comes back to say all is fine while market stays down, seizure banner comes up. This happened literally 2 weeks ago how gullible are you?
Every scenario is possible, all we can do is wait.
/u/realketameme Abacus Vendor
3 points
1 week ago
Isn’t it funny when baby bottle accounts give vendors advice and friendly tips? lol as if we haven’t all lost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in the past 2 weeks and have seen more behind the scenes then they realize? I love it
To be honest I don't mind if its a baby bottle, it doesn't mean that much. There are many people on dread having an old account but still dumb while some baby bottles know more...
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
Some people don't wanna leave a trail, just want their voice to be heard
/u/realketameme Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Fair it just takes a little credibility from their words in my opinion. But I see your point
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Friendly tip if you appreciate your freedom never use this market ever again if it comes up.
/u/borat
2 points
1 week ago
Yeah and dark matter was supposedly confiscated last week when they were being ddos'd . Sms. Sure it's possible, helly anything is but what's more likely is that they are being ddos'd ATM and makes sense with all the migration and archetype gone as a target. People are so so quick to jump to worst case scanario and paranoia. I've seen markets come and go for well over a decade and this is normal. Most of the time it is exactly what he says is going on, a simple ddos attack
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PGP is still needed for login lol
Pretty sure he was active on the /u/AbacusMarket account.
I believe HB said it himself.

As to why he decided to post from this account, no idea. Maybe if its LE they didn't know that he dosen't use this account anymore?

Don't take my word for granted im just throwing out my 2 cents out there.

Edit: spelling
/u/Super_godman
1 points
1 week ago
Well well well .. your account is interesting to say the least.
/u/clockwerk Abacus Vendor
6 points
1 week ago
this is Where we are:
27 hrs NO monero or BTC has arrived In our wallet/s
No private links Working.
have A nice day;)
/u/[deleted]
3 points
1 week ago
Ya know, I felt good about reading Vito's post until you reminded me of the reality of the situation lol.
/u/clockwerk Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Yogi! always good To see you here, Hopefully things work Out here.
/u/CocaineIncPR Abacus Vendor
2 points
1 week ago
We are also on the same boat, about $30,000 in escrow and another $10,000 in withdrawls going on 38 hours since processed.

No private links working for us. We remain optmistic and hope for the best.
/u/CokePrisonFemboyy
2 points
1 week ago
Didn't you promise to quit if Archetyp doesn't come back? If Abacus comes back will you give money to me? Meow.
/u/CocaineIncPR Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
We did promise that, but that was contingent on an exit scam we didnt expect a siezure.

We will give you $500 if Abacus comes back online and we can withdraw.
/u/CokePrisonFemboyy
2 points
1 week ago
I know they will, I will then buy drugs with the donation. Meow.
/u/NowOrNever
1 points
1 week ago
Do you want to double down your bet?
/u/clockwerk Abacus Vendor
2 points
1 week ago
My Anxiety just Got worse reading this Bro, Keeping a good thought;)
/u/widowwatching 🍼
5 points
1 week ago
Hello, Officer!
/u/robertpaulson P
-2 points
1 week ago
its okay baby, put that bottle back in your mouth and goto sleep... the adults are busy
/u/widowwatching 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
Snore
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
busy coping
/u/MozzzieBoi84
4 points
1 week ago
The pattern is just too similar to how every other DWM went down. No different here i am afraid.

Abacus is gone, i am 100% certain.

Expect a msg in the next 24 hours with the truth,
/u/TeachUHow2Trap
1 points
1 week ago
I made a post literally right after the seizure but I'll make it again;

After a DNM bust, things go to SHIT everywhere. Vendors start scamming to make funds back, markets let all the new cash flow in just to exit scam because they're scared of getting busted. Like, it happens EVERY SINGLE TIME. Every time. After a bust, it's like clockwork.
/u/spaincartel Abacus Vendor
4 points
1 week ago
whos Gone outside, and touched some grass??? LOL
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
me, touched grass trying all 4 mirrors. still not working.
/u/CaptainPhuckwash
1 points
1 week ago
Went outside, touched grass, cleaned house... On to the next one
/u/Ratchet_Man 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
This sounds great if true but - What exactly about Daunt was malfunctioning??
/u/youreabitch 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
Remember when ARCH said everything was fine and just under "maintenance" ?
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
Yeah but in that case we had a fake maintenance page put up by LE to fool us.. nothing like that so far here
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
So what are we thinking, exit or le?
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
i'm cautiously optimistic... We know 100% that monero deposits were broken and they took the time to fix them before moving on to BTC and taking the market down... Why on earth would you put in effort to fix anything if exiting? and LE def wouldn't repair anything
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Sounds like LE then
/u/robertpaulson P
4 points
1 week ago
So LE out of the goodness of their hearts repaired monero deposits for us? I swear yall don't make any sense
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
No, I'm agreeing he wouldn't go through the trouble of fixing that just to exit scam. What is happening now is Le.
/u/robertpaulson P
2 points
1 week ago
well bughunter just confirmed and spoke with vito who is working the issues so its not i guess
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Yeah, good looking out. Glad to see for everyone's sake (I'm not involved)
/u/PoopyButthole69420
1 points
1 week ago
i was having trouble loading it just 10 minutes ago, but it worked after 2 refreshes.
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
it hasn't been syncing with clearnet for a while, there is a fix for it but abacus had failed to apply it so far
/u/platstallion
1 points
1 week ago
Yea who even says 'malfunctioning'
/u/Ratchet_Man 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Exactly. I think the post is totally bogus. I'll vote for LE at this point. They're probably putting the site back up to entrap every vendor.
/u/MaxPayneUK
3 points
1 week ago
I seen this before telling us to touch grass too?
/u/kingwonton 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
Sooner than later would be bitchin, but we will see i guess.
/u/H2G2 P Abacus Vendor
3 points
1 week ago
Why are all server ports open?
NMAP shows exact same results when Argh was going down.
So fast another loss. Mark my words ,this site won't come back.[
/u/UrPal
1 points
1 week ago
Y I K E S
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
Not sure what that means? If the servers are completely turned off, the onion wouldn't be going anywhere would it? Are you saying that the onion is actually hitting something (some server/hardware) but there is no firewall enabled? I guess I had assumed that the servers were no longer even running a hidden service at all so there'd be nothing. Does this mean that he has the backend running Tor but there's nothing there?

Sorry a little ignorant on some of the tech details. My assumption was that the servers weren't around anymore at all and not running Tor or anything. But your post I guess implies the opposite? Servers are running with Tor and the hidden service but nothing is there? No firewall, no web server, etc?
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
Implies LE are preparing their seizure banner. They don't bother doing any opsec because they don't have to. It's like how the Archetyp maintenance page gave away the e-tag and the nginx version in the headers. Abacus got busted I'm now 99.999% sure.
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
OH, I see what you mean. So its up and running but just not completely set up? Understand they prob wouldn't do much in terms of firewalls and such.

/u/HugBunter thoughts on this? If this is the case, i can see it doesn't sound good at all.
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
If it wasn't LE they wouldn't have anything up until it's ready. The equivalent as a vendor would be to put your real name and return address on your packages.

Lost another one to the glowies it's looking like.
/u/H2G2 P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
[pending moderation]
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
It's been real guys
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
tell tale sign of LE. If Vito really were beefing up things on the backend, the server ports would be closed. The only reason they would stay on is for someone to observe incoming connection attempts/log traffic from users/admins tryin to connect.
/u/art80008
1 points
1 week ago
Could you post the NMap results? Or is it literally all ports?
/u/DrCoke 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
Be patient guys, the LE are preparing their banner with the logos of Interpol, DEA and a shitty video.
/u/swisscola
1 points
1 week ago
yes please I've been touching the grass for 4 days now ...
/u/thecandystore Abacus Vendor
2 points
1 week ago*
Hello Hello!!

We sincerely appreciate you letting the community know!!

We hope you and your team work through this issue!!

Thankyou!! Have a nice day!!
/u/Meliodas
2 points
1 week ago
......Damn they got abacus too huh, that's crazy the attack on markets these days are ridiculous.... Dude it's gonna start scaring people. People won't trust putting in orders, vendors are gonna start exit scamming before they get their money seized, this is some bullshit, luckily I only had $200 in abacus wallet cause during the DDOS I was to scared to put my money in for more orders....In fear this shit would happen!.....I pray Abacus comes back.....but the way it's looking right now.....ain't to good guys this shit just happened to us last week

And on top of everything this same thing happened with alphabay and Hansa market, where they seized alphabay and turned Hansa into the Honeypot.......

Anyway stay safe fellas Hope for the best expect the worst..... Abacus officially been down for 12 hours as of 9:25 A.M EST Goodluck and start placing orders now on other markets before the next attacks start happening....it's a time game right now
/u/ChickenFucker
0 points
1 week ago
these doomer posts pop up every time a market goes down

and without fail new markets rise to take their place and the world keeps on spinning. people just need extra drama in their boring lives i guess
/u/studentofnature 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
I think that if you lose crypto over something like this, you kinda have a right to complain a bit.
/u/ChickenFucker
2 points
1 week ago
its all in the game. we arent ordering off fucking amazon here and people get so comfortable thats what they seem to think it is. Its an illegal online drug market. Use at your own risk, dont keep funds on the market and dont get complacent
/u/studentofnature 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Right, cause it's an illegal drug market, you should be happy to lose your crypto. 😶 Makes sense.

No one enjoys losing money, no matter how "your fault" it is. It's annoying to lose money when a market gets seized by the authorities, let alone to lose money with an exit scam.

Plus let's not forget that for vendors, they're always at an elevated risk of losing a non trivial amount of money just cause of the nature of their business.
/u/ChickenFucker
0 points
1 week ago
you dont have to be happy about it but you dont have the right to bitch about it either.

you're here by your own choice no one forced you to buy drugs online so quit whining
/u/studentofnature 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
One doesn't have a "right" to bitch about it? Well first off, no one needs a "right" to bitch and moan but if we did, I'm pretty sure getting your money stolen would give you that right.

"You're here by your own choice" can literally be said about anyone at any time. Got mugged in the streets? Was your choice to go out there. 🤣

Whether or not you're here on your own accord has literally zero to do with how people feel when they get robbed. You being the only exception, I would appear.

Good day to you, I guess 😅
/u/bustinnutz6902
1 points
1 week ago
Yeah it's definitely part of the game in this line of work... I'd think after the experience of the incognito BS where they held everyone's data & vendors Customer info for ransom, that pretty much anything from LE seizures to your standard exit scam would seem like a walk in the park in comparison... I'm thankfully not a vendor so they didn't get a dime from me besides what was in my account but thanks to the numerous exit scams I just don't ever keep much in my accounts anymore... but I get sick thinking of how much vendors probably ended up spending to protect their customers(good vendors cuz I'm sure some didn't pay at all).... I'm not really sure who ran that site & did that scam but they should be hung up by their testicles or pussy lips whoever they were that shit was cold blooded lol. So thankfully this ain't that yet :P
/u/Tre
2 points
1 week ago
DDos wouldn't explain alot of the issues.

They arent "connection timed out" they are straight up the onion doesnt exist. LE fucked up bad with Arch. Dont see the same mistake happening twice.

You guys do you but IMO this market is cooked. Sorry for you loss.
/u/swisscola
1 points
1 week ago
LE screwed Arche because the servers were in the Netherlands, and ASNT was in Barcelona, everything was coordinated in Europe.

Abacus is Russian, and given the current situation and war, there is no collaboration or extradition with a third country.

I seriously doubt it's been seized; they're simply working to resolve the issues, and it's happened in the past with Abacus that it's been offline for 2 or 3 days.

Vito interacted, he spoke with HB, and another mod also interacted. I think the platform will come back.
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
i agree, as no amount background work would have them so busy that they couldn't put up a temporary banner...
/u/dreadprivateroberts
2 points
1 week ago
i spoke to the admin last week they said they will be doing a mass upgrade and adding new sections to the market so more and more items can now be sold. i still believe they are coming back and they have been excellent. have faith people.
/u/plumthief
1 points
1 week ago
if this is true, why haven't they said a word about it?
/u/dreadprivateroberts
1 points
1 week ago
honestly either way doesnt matter to me... couple more markets close and i dont get paid i wont sell for escrow any more ill only work on markets that give me FE. i am tired of selling shit on escrow and not getting paid = working for free = no way fuk that.
/u/Reaps
2 points
1 week ago
Also, really in this circumstance the thing to do would be to process everyone's withdrawals at least and refund any deposits until the market is operational. That should be the gold standard for any maintenance/downtime, planned or not.

As long as you can pull that info from the database you could run a local script to refund everyone. LE would never do this, neither would exit scammers.
/u/ChuckJones
1 points
1 week ago
Even as a buyer who may potentially lose money, I don't consider it incumbent upon the operators to prioritize its return, when they have state-level actors breathing down their necks. Run Forrest, run, and don't you look back. I'll be ok.
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
But the operators (or LE) are promising it will return. If they just dipped and everything went dark then we would all know what it was. If they are intending to come back, releasing everyones money (except escrow) would at least give us some very decent hope of its return. Just a thought for future dnm admins who might be in this position.
looking like LE moved quickly from Archetyp to Abacus. Good luck and stay stay safe.

wondering if they wait till the fish gets the fastest until they go for the kills so they can "seized all illegal" funds
with no audit trai
/u/grimzewi_DejPub 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Exactly 💯
/u/TheBillyHibiscus 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
Thank you /u/Vito for the status update, facing the public is Brutal in a Situation like this and We trust you and We trust Abacus to make a full comeback. Hopefully a New era for Abacus, not exiting but rather doubling down. I hope Abacus 2.0 is even better. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely, TheBillyHibiscus
/u/dopeboy217
2 points
1 week ago
My private mirror is not working though... that means the backend is down as well. Please somebody give me an update, I have two orders.
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 week ago
did you not read the post from Vito man.. None of us have been able to access the market for almost 2 days. It's been taken completely offline. Vito said he will let us know when it's back up and running.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
yes,in 2023 was the same,they were 3 days offline and came back
/u/snakeinthetrash
1 points
1 week ago
Im in the same boat bud, curious how this works and where we go from here... Hope this is a very temporary issue.
/u/deepman
2 points
1 week ago
I love Abacus so much now.I want the abacus to be updated now. Be modern. A clean environment.
I also want to work with abacus. I will always stand by you. Thanks love you
/u/poppymeow 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
at this point, its either something really bad happened with the site, they got arrested, or, they just dipped.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
tomorrow we all back to work
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
just give it time u donut
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
The mental gymnastics to think its coming back is impressive
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
go on then prof reaps, give me a detailed explanation of whats happened. Oh wait u cant, LOL
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
why does the server have open ports like archetyp did when it was under LE control at the time? are abacus admins retarded or is LE in control of their servers?
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
tbh im suprised u responded kindly, thanks. Sorry if I was rude - just annoyed i cant get my usual fix
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
you're good i get it. i have a lot on the line too, but it's just the sad reality. trying to make sure no one falls into a honeypot by pointing out red flags. hope you can get sorted elsewhere man.
/u/Poppies
2 points
1 week ago
I have $80 sitting on there which is not much. I wish however that I had fe'd for my vendor. That is $450 and the product came today. For their sake and every other great vendor I hope they get their coins. These events cause much stress for vendors.

Abacus has been great for years and I don't get the vibe that it's an exit scam.
/u/elliotroddasigma
2 points
1 week ago
is it DDos or exit? so many people saying different shit so its hard to know what to believe
/u/swisscola
2 points
1 week ago
No one knows, only time and the passing days will bring a convincing answer.
/u/Reaps
0 points
1 week ago
Pointing towards LE seizure imo
/u/elliotroddasigma
1 points
1 week ago
fuckkkkk
any way to withdraw the funds i had in my account? i was gonna buy some shit to enjoy the holiday and now this shit had fucked up all my plans man
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
unfortunately not, nobody got their withdrawals they actually submitted after a certain point. i hate to say it but i would consider those funds lost, likely in police custody.
/u/elliotroddasigma
1 points
1 week ago
shit.. so its over?
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
99.999% sure it is, RIP Abacus
If by some miracle it comes back assume it's under LE control. Finalize orders and log out. I don't think it will come back as they don't usually do honeypots these days but its important to be cognisant of them.
/u/elliotroddasigma
1 points
1 week ago
ah damn
time to move to drughub then i guess
/u/Kim449 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
Cheers LE. Have a nice meal with my $40
/u/icravepleasure
2 points
1 week ago
Ok so let's say LE confiscated everything. Where can I contact said LE to give me my money back? That or product I know they have some 1ª quality stored away somewhere.

Or at least give me a number of a good physical contact.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
ahah,,,hi LE i want my peruvian fishscale straight from the boat :)
/u/tysm981 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Shit they are the ones selling it anyway. Been that way since the 80's.
/u/icravepleasure
1 points
1 week ago
...what kind of junkie do you think I am? Bolivian!
That or my coins.
Either way, looking forward to the gay ass propaganda movie they are going to release. Sad that with all those colours they used in the last one I would like to be high when watching it.
/u/WTAF 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
All the best with the the updates and the work required to get back up and running. All the negativity and lack of general common sense or trust in you all that take the risk is disappointing.

Thanks for all the great work and effort in providing the best service that we, including all these cry babies love and need?? (def love)

We all look forward to the lights coming back on a AbacusMarket with new and improved security.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I have no words... you are either really naive or total ass kissers, that is, you are continuing to hope that he will come back saying that we are the negative ones, incredible
/u/DrE 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
do you have many friends? like real people? why wouldn't anyone want it to come back? you seem quite nasty and unlikeable
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
sorry for the tone, but honestly the market has been completely offline for 2 days without any updates or signatures from Vito, how do you think they will come back? I'm quite disappointed
/u/workerbee
1 points
1 week ago
The problem isn't friends or real life connections. The problem is the lack of communication, pgpv and not knowing. If they popped back up today, everyone should be very cautious about continuing business there. If you can't understand that or why that is, you need more of those good friends
Living legend

Thanks for updating, we need this market right now.

Happy Abacus
/u/Reaps
0 points
1 week ago
Get ready to pour one out for the homie vito :(
/u/WalterWhyteuk Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
In regards to withdrawals made 24h ago ? what is going on with that ?

Thank you
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
5 points
1 week ago
Ask yourselves why he didn't sign this announcement.
/u/WalterWhyteuk Abacus Vendor
7 points
1 week ago
Its irrelevant last time we had Arch go down, they signed an announcement with admin key, so not really any indicator now.
/u/pgpfreak P
1 points
1 week ago
Good point.
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
vito has never once signed a message on dread... even when proof of life request are sent out by admins. He just doesn't feel the need to.

Say he did sign this message, would that have convinced you 100% it wasn't LE behind it? Nope it wouldn't so whats the point..
/u/pgpfreak P
1 points
1 week ago
would that have convinced you 100% it wasn't LE behind it?

Not at all. I'm just saying it's customary to sign messages when circumstances arise, as an additional safety. It's not bulletproof. Just better.
/u/mobski
1 points
1 week ago
someone else tried saying this but someone else pulled out links of him signing his msgs so he does sign them and hug said that its not normal for him not to sign a message for something this big it's just going to rumble everything up
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
its all moot at this point... bug is in contact with vito now... all is good, they are working to fix market
/u/mobski
2 points
1 week ago
Once i saw that it lowkey gave me some more hope but you never know in this game i just hope my 9k in escrow is fine the vendor didnt even get to accept it so fuk
/u/DrChronicAU
1 points
1 week ago
That shit goneskis
/u/mobski
1 points
1 week ago
ikski
/u/FromPharmToTable
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks we hope to see any upgrades or changes made soon! Still resetting funds from our fallout with Archetyp as will be the case for a while
/u/Ashktchm1969
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks Vito, You da real MVP
Thank You! Finally some update!

Have a nice day!!
/u/cocainine 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
finally some transparency
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Finally some update,thank you very much
/u/DoGreatThings Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
This is why Abacus is the best market for the past few years!

Thank you for the update and everything you guys do!
/u/JESUS
1 points
1 week ago
No signature? Isn't it absolutely necessary at a chaotic moment like this? Didn't /u/vito know that !
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Imo they raided his place and gained access to his password manager but to cops surprise he didn't store PGP password there.
/u/borat
1 points
1 week ago
Not enough evidence to support this. This theory is a HUGE LEAP
/u/TazCobain313
1 points
1 week ago
Exactly what i thought when i read that. Doesn't comment or post for over a year then doesn't sign the message. Considering the shit that happened 2 weeks ago i am very skeptical!
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
arch sign pgp and gone,its not a indicator
/u/borat
1 points
1 week ago
Too quick to jump to worse case scenario. No way to call that
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
1 week ago
Boss Man!!
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
You woke up from coma too? It's becoming Zombieland up in this bitch!
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
1 week ago
I have been working in the back ground. Waiting for Vito to post.
/u/adminCompro4124 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
First time TTTz used the word "back ground" with a space. Either it's a cop trying to imitate a dumb street criminal, a dumb cop who can't write or the real TTTz whose brain was hooked up to Abacus servers through Neuralink and suffered brain damage due to DDoS.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
1 week ago
Enough, my brain is mush have been going for hours straight
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
"brain damage due to DDOS" is fucking wild yo bahahaha
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
Is it not concerning that Vito didn't sign the message? I know that signing a msg might not mean much b/c LE could get access to those, but not signing it is not a good sign either.

Maybe exception is if the signing key used is on Vito's Dread profile and he has 2FA enabled, which I assume he does have 2FA enabled.

While I am glad to hear something, I am a bit worried it wasn't signed.
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
1 week ago
I am sure it was a quick response, we will just wait. The main focus is getting the Market back stable and getting everyone their coin.
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
Yeah I hope you are right. DOn't want to see abacus go. Hopefully that's all it is.

Do you know if the PGP on vito's Dread account is the same key he'd be using to sign his messages? If so, then that's a little relief b/c he'd need that to login
/u/TTTz SubDread Mod - Abacus
1 points
1 week ago
Not sure. Can not say.
/u/youreabitch 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Sounds like ARCH type bs.....
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
nothing forever and now 2 different posts within 30 minutes of each other from 2 different guys with exactly the same writing style...
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
To be fair, I was 99% sure that the market mods were around and hitting refresh. They must not have heard anything at all in terms of status to communicate, so they remained quiet. But yeah, while I'm happy in one way to have some status update, I'm concerned it wasn't signed. I don't know enough about abacus to know whether this is standard operating procedure in terms of communicating during issues. I read some have said in past they don't hear from admin for 24-48 hours after issue crops up. But I myself have no clue.

Also, it is admitedly odd that it was from Vito and not /u/AbacusMarket which had been used most recently. So yeah, holding out hope but there are concerns.
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
you're all scammers until proven otherwise.
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
or law enforcement...
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
nothing forever and now 2 different posts within 30 minutes of each other from 2 different guys with exactly the same writing style...
/u/Meliodas
1 points
1 week ago
/u/lowblowjoe I just wanted to ask what other post your talking about?, personally I think it's another LE seizure we just dealt with this last week. I hope I'm wrong but....didn't we just learn this from archetyp lol
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
He is talking about the post from /u/Vito and then 20 mins later /u/TTTz made a post. As to having same writing style, I'm not sure. Don't really see it or enough info to indicate that. I wish vito had signed this msg though.
/u/Meliodas
1 points
1 week ago
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
Thanks for the clarification, honestly though even if he did sign it....it's almost like what's the point these days? Unless he stated in the message that the market would be back up in an hour or 2 or few.. that would be the only indication for me that it's not an LE siezure cause right now as I see it, all the mirrors and main have been physically removed from tor. They're not just down right now from constant attack and traffic, and even if he did sign it.....he hasn't used this account in 2 whole years, so if it's an LE seizure that would only explanation as to why this account was used again...this was probably the only account they could get their hands on to put up a message, because luckily for us he didn't give them the abacus official dread account which is what Vito has been using instead of the Vito account.....but hey I truly hope abacus is okay...I hope they come rbavk today....shit I was hoping when I woke up this morning they were back....Im hoping they come back this very second honestly.....but after the whole arche disaster.....I just don't feel right about this....and I made an odd discovery before abacus went down, I can't find the comment I've been looking for it for a couple now but the day abacus started having issues I saw a dread account saying that abacus was next and they're about to start the attack....literally 30 minutes after that comment abacus was under massive siege, it's was basically another whoisteam kinda scenario......anyway hope this helps....keep your head up fellas
/u/youreabitch 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I agree 100%
/u/DouBai
1 points
1 week ago
I for one appreciate the update, and I'm thrilled to hear that things are okay and that you're working on the issues. I'm all about Abacus. Everyone be patient. I know it's easier said than done, but in this case it's true.
This was awesome to hear from you finally. I was surprised you didn't sign the message! At least we know you have acknowledged that there is some unrest, to say the least. We are SO hopeful of a safe return of Abacus.
LEGEND

Thanks for the update Boss!


-Budsanddrugs
/u/Mantis1 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
thanks for the update, fingers crossed its soon
/u/swisscola
1 points
1 week ago
Signed message or not, it was posted with his dread account, and a mod also interacted, which seems true and inspires veracity.

@Vito thanks for updating us !
/u/justbenzos Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks for your dedication through out these hard times
/u/PinkmanClub Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks!
/u/mycogoku Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Thank you Vito! Stay smart, stay safe!
/u/gustavahr2121
1 points
1 week ago
I KNEW YOU WOULD COME THROUGH FOR US
/u/KOKEKONG P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks for the update and for the work you’re doing despite the pressure.
We’ll stay patient, take the time you need to secure everything.
We’re waiting for the market to be back, stay strong team 🙏

The kong
/u/RockyRoads12
1 points
1 week ago
Wishing and hoping for the best, but does anyone find it odd that there is no signature on this message?
/u/swat2000
2 points
1 week ago
"the only thing in your sights is CP"
/u/CrocodileDundee
1 points
1 week ago
I was remembered these guys were on the other day and that was one of their last messages...
/u/swat2000
1 points
1 week ago
I laughed for a solid 5 minutes at that reply though
/u/CrocodileDundee
2 points
1 week ago
Same, that shit was prime!
/u/archerman
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks so much, can't wait till everything is back to normal
/u/Disneyw0rld Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Appreciate you letting the community know mate!
Let us all be patient and let /u/Vito do the magic!

All the people who will send me a private messge here, will get a 25% extra weight on sales when Abacus is online a again! <3

Greets,
Mickeym0use.
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Sigh of relief. Work hard vito - I need my drugs before I get back to my home country.

SlyJay
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago*
I like this post from Vitos profile from the last time almost exact thing happened in 2022.. we'll see if hes man of his word

One thing I can promise to all of you (and these words are also destined towards the attacker who is here posting shit on dread using recent created accounts) Abacus is not going to go anywhere, it does not matter what things we will have to go through in the future and it does not matter how many attacks we receive, we are always going to solve it and continue forward and at the same time we are never going to stop updating the market, fixing and adding new features and always taking Abacus to the next level

/post/a18e1328420deb0008ec

edit: funniest part of this thread is people still saying he was exiting scamming then... I guess just like history, idiots repeat themselves
/u/ProjectCannabis
1 points
1 week ago
Thx for the pol even though not signed it's good enough for me
/u/archerr
1 points
1 week ago
I'd recommend anyone seriously affiliated with the Abacus project to cover their bases, get rid of any incriminating evidence. If this is an deja vu from Archetyp, LE make these posts for a reason - to buy time. Even in case of a false alarm, covering your bases never hurt anyone.
/u/WalterWhyteuk Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Right Guys looks like something OFF is going on I agree with HugBunter fully.

For all our clients We shipped your orders when you bought day before. We lost out a big amount with Arch and Abacus most likely also out now (hoping We are wrong, but does not look like it, as it was one of our favorite if not favorite market

You can find us on TZN NEX KERB DH we are still there

Not sure what is going on but message us for details if u struggling to find us

Kind regards,
WW
/u/CaptainPhuckwash
1 points
1 week ago
Would love to think this was true. It feels all too much like Arch2.0 with this post and the BTC being moved it all smells bad. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its probably an exit
/u/snowbunni P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Sweet!
/u/BurstBat
1 points
1 week ago
Anyone searching by new, an update was made to HugBunters previous comment
/post/8ddec9556416b80e2353/#c-970184f57b063621de
/u/digthatdread
1 points
1 week ago
What did he say before the edit?
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
3 points
1 week ago
I don't remember verbatim but he said that vito should have signed the msg and that it was sus. He mentioned the Daunt issue and how he offered to help vito solve it but hadn't heard back. He also said he was concerned b/c vito had not spoken to him on Jabber before any of this happened. So it was a fairly dire message but still said with caution.
/u/digthatdread
1 points
1 week ago
Thank you
/u/malloc
1 points
1 week ago*
Few things here.

And trust me, I am the LAST guy to to suspect an exit scam when a few issues occur.

HOWEVER,

# 1 Pending withdrawals:

From a developers perspective, this makes no sense. Even if the hidden service is down, the backend should still function properly. Cron jobs to dispatch withdrawals should still be working. Even if no cronjobs are utilized this doesn't make sense.

# 2 Descriptor for hidden services not in hash table

Onion services are offline, completely. There are no descriptors available for any link in the hash table(s). And they have been for a bit. This does't scream DDoS to me. This would could however be explainable by Abacus migrating / upgrading servers.

# 3 Movements on the blockchain ?

I HEARD, (NOT verified), that unusual blockchain movements are occuring. Would really appreciate someone providing me with a public key hash / TXID associated with Abacus so that I can do some research.

# 4 (Not important but still a little relevant)

The guy who called the Arche exit claimed that another large market will be taken offline around this time. Maybe irrelevant, maybe not.

Do I think that Abacus is exiting?

Maybe but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. What Vito is claiming seems reasonable and could actually be the case. Only time will tell.

Another thought:

If Abacus would be exiting, why would the admin bother to give updates on dread.

This would make sense if the market was still accepting deposits and being online but that is not the case. So everything might be in order.
/u/sampson412 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
Also a dev just offering another perspective. It's entirely possible that a DDOS attack could render backend services unusable if they were running on the same server that serves the application under attack OR if the server under attack makes requests to the backend server OR if all services are run on servers controlled by another entity who started throttling in response to increased load. Suggesting that backend services should work properly with frontend services down is making a ton of assumptions about system architecture and where their servers are located.

Any theory is a guess at this point.

My gut tells me that their services got klobbered, they scrambled to deal with increased load, their hardware or hardware provider couldn't handle it, so eventually they went offline while scrambling to implement technical solutions and re-deploy from new backends.

Exit scam seems very unlikely. I personally had a successful withdrawal early morning yesterday. Why remove deposit addresses during an exit? It just doesn't make any sense.
/u/plumthief
1 points
1 week ago
That sounds about right considering withdrawals stopped working the last time Abacus went down a few years back
/u/malloc
1 points
1 week ago
Absolutely correct in the context of "clearnet" attacks.

However, you are missing LOTS of key aspects key.

First, the onion domain(s) of Abacus you are visiting are onion balance instances proxying requests to instances of Endgame reverse proxies which then internally proceed to proxy requests to the actual hidden services of Abacus.

Secondly, If someone was DDoSing Abacus using more advanced tactics (most likely) like sniping the introduction points of Abacus frontend hidden services, the backend would not be affected. It would still be up running normally while no traffic is able to reach it.

That is why I said that the most likely situation here is that Abacus is migrating infrastructure.
/u/sampson412 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Thank you for the follow-up response. Admittedly my experience is with "clearnet" architectures/networks. Your points make sense.
/u/malloc
1 points
1 week ago
No worries man.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts through. That is what dread is all about.
/u/BurstBat
1 points
1 week ago
Agreed there's been some worrying events, but I'm sure if people looked this deep every day they would find large payments out of the sites wallets. I'm not saying this definitely isn't an exit, but there's plenty suggesting that it's not
/u/plumthief
1 points
1 week ago
I would just like to note that withdrawals stopped working the last time Abacus went down a few years back
/u/headshotnegativity
1 points
1 week ago
fucking rappers loosing or ripping our money,cant even deliver the promised anonymity or the security WE ALL PAID FOR most of these kids couldnt even maintain their markets without help from hug..
and then they will most likely even snitch to the first official after bust...now this post LE already(this time they smarter), everybody with autopgp or only btc vendors or new schmokks CLEAN UP, BLEACH & BURN it
you already know the drill
/u/princesk
1 points
1 week ago
wtf whats going all with all markets pls ?
/u/spidimcguier
1 points
1 week ago
i mean its a good idea to use the influx of people moving from arche seizure, profits piling up way higher than ever... im not gonna jump in a conclusion and say theyre exiting... although very shady...
/u/icravepleasure
1 points
1 week ago
Thank the Stymulant God's! Soon I will have my lungs crystal sparkly and my nose whiter than a Saint Bernand searching for victims! Send me my stuff Ticket! Jjajajajaj
/u/gvnio 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
ah shit man i hope this ends out working out but it isn't looking so good

its not even the money that bothers me

i found a lot of good small time vendors if this market goes down i highly doubt i will ever be able to find them to do business with again

the only vendor i know i can find again is one that is popular enough to make his own store again

but then again i don't have much funds on there so it wont be like getting fucked in my ass like with empire

ah fuck ima do something else and try and not think about, time is the only thing that will give us a real answer

im sorry to those with a lot of funds on the market id be losing my shit
/u/shroomheds Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks for posting. Take care. Bee safe.
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
if you guys come back jesus fucking christ get a better PR team, because you have stirred up a huge amount of distrust with this whole incident. I'm not going to feel safe on your market (assuming it does come back) for anything except releasing escrow to vendors who actually shipped.


at least the dash checks out this time lol
/u/LibertyExchange 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
This makes no sense, it looks like a backend worker went out, if they come up fine and well I'd take it as a good sign they haven't given up.
/u/jailisforever 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
[removed by moderators]
/u/UrPal
1 points
1 week ago
Same tbh
/u/CIEWMxxx P
1 points
1 week ago
I do wonder if they realized they're making the same mistake Archtyp made, maybe server location. And they're frantically trying to rectify it.
/u/user8573019
1 points
1 week ago
its seems like exit-scam hahahhahahahah
/u/[deleted] 🍼
3 points
1 week ago
imagine losing your money and finding a clown like you laughing.You must be proud.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
you need diddy baby oil :)
/u/grimzewi_DejPub 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
i dont know why but i kinda feel like the hansa takedown operation is repeating itself loooool
/u/peanutmmsaregood 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Nice thank you!
/u/KanekiGangX 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Yayyyyyy
/u/whitecomb99 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks for the infos
/u/DeltaJones 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
guys. I do not sure why you do not sign your message.... but I hope it's true. stay safe, please. I hope you and your server are in Russia. Cheers!
/u/WebRider75955d
1 points
1 week ago
I have the impression that the most important sellers were warned before the scam closure, because I had made purchases and unusually the sellers from whom I have been buying for a long time, did not ship promptly as always, indeed they waited and did not ship, even those of digital content I believe it is the end of Abacus I lost little, it is time to look for another market
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
i was right (i hope)
/u/chynab
1 points
1 week ago
idk man 30/70 on this one... The fact that some people claimed withdrawals coming through up until the last 12-16 hours give me some semblance of hope.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
exactly the same statistic that came to mind, but if tomorrow we still don't know anything I'd say it goes up to 80/20, do you agree?
/u/chynab
1 points
1 week ago
Agreed. Unless more communication from /u/vito is relayed.
/u/WalterWhyteuk Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
No withdrawals arrived in our case. So we are very skeptical.
/u/chynab
1 points
1 week ago
My withdrawal also never arrived, but I assumed since the entire back-end was taken offline that nothing would process during that time anyway. I'm pretty sure they're gone for good but still holding out hope of course.
/u/therealmrx 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
i mean i didn't withdraw but i put 200+ in wallet got no notification then hours later when i could get back on for the last time before ''onion site not found'' i did get the notifications for money getting deposited so idk if thats a good sign for u boys so do with this information as you will!
/u/sydneysweeneykencarson
1 points
1 week ago
New to this stuff, anyone get alternative markets to use in the mean time?
/u/chynab
1 points
1 week ago
DrugHub is solid. Only market I'd trust tbh. Kerberos for a smaller market that probably doesn't have the funds to really be worth exiting yet, but not many US vendors.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago*
drughub but they have high fees:(
/u/aizekasimov Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
/u/Vito You should write in the Guinness Book of Records immediately! I have shit the biggest pile of bricks in these 24 hours! It is actually bigger than the Pyramid of Giza!
/u/aizekasimov Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Like Vito Corleone! :D... Sorry guys I'm just really happy after the recent colossal losses..
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
More like Vito Spatafore
/u/MrZoidberg P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Any technical specialist who can give some more information about the adjustments that need to be made when the server is under DDOS attack?

How much time would you need to fix such a problem?

I myself have been unable to reach the site for 2 days..

Hope everything will be fine
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
It is impossible to answer that, we don't know how sophisticated their setup is, what exactly they are doing to mitigate it (if they even are) or any of the specifics to make that call.

That's assuming DDoS/influx of users is the real reason the site's down right now.

If they are actually trying to fix it, it probably involves migrating to a more powerful server (maybe a different host if they feel they have been exposed) and setting up load balancers. Then performance tweaking of services to meet the demand. But again we have no insight so it's hard to say. What I can say is at this point I do not think the market is coming back looking at all the facts.
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Just smoke some weed and chill. all good things must be waited for
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
it probably wont arrive due to this lol
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
thats all :) you know mate,,,,we can't do more than that, or cook a good peruvian fishscale straight from the boat :)
/u/supernormal
1 points
1 week ago
the question we should be asking is why withdrawals are not working... even if the site is down, the developers should still have access to the database and should be able to process withdrawals.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
they are work in background
in 2023 happen the same,was 3 days mia
we should never let know our next move
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
hello mate,we have to wait
in 2023 happen the same,3 days offline and they came back
PS -i hope you still have xtc dagobert :)
/u/CB2019 Reputable Vendor
1 points
1 week ago*
anyone getting their withdrawals as of 1-2 days ago?
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
Luckily i use with moderation now, so we don't have to go through that anymore :)
/u/MLK
1 points
1 week ago
thats comedy haha
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
I'm glad I made someone laugh bahahaha. Homie is probably stressing out rn i shouldn't be fucking with him like that at a time like this LOL
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
LOL people should do microdose of a drug of choice,chill and wait
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
I would, but USPS lost my order and it's been "moving in transit" for 4 days lol. Just an all around shit week man, but we'll get through this!
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
It would have been worse if it hadn't been sent :)
your order should arrive soon,positive thinking
update when arrive,hug from europe
/u/shey1995
1 points
1 week ago
Anyone can give verify link for go online now.. please
/u/sandy_s 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Abacus has been offline for 2 days while they work on the server. When back online, go here for links:
https://daunt.link/view/Abacus
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
thanks for your work
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
market is down for now
we have to wait
oficial link on DAUNT.LINK
/u/Jumper21
1 points
1 week ago
Good Bye Abacus, your platform was kind of shit, but also kind of useful in a pinch.

Now that you are gone, I pray that the new markets and better markets prioritize state of the art security before worrying about talking shit to their users because of their language, and always siding with the Vendors even when it shows they pulled a fraudulent deal.

WE NEED A STATE OF THE ART FULLY FUNCTIONAL MARKET THAT CAN DELIVER TO YOUR DOOR IN SOME OCCASIONS, I have long term vnedors that drop off rigth when i gt home
/u/Reaps
3 points
1 week ago
Archetyp spoiled us
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
am i just holding on to false hope lol?
/u/marleysmusic12
1 points
1 week ago
Its coming... bit more patience and Arch + Aba will be merely become old memories
/u/FrenchyFarm P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Then he tells us he got taken down, that the authorities got to him, and basically, he’s standing there alone, flailing in the wind. I must be an idiot to still believe his nonsense.
/u/aeolus 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
QUESTION: What happens when I'm unable to click the extend auto-finalize button because of the site being down? Will I just be completely screwed? I pray to god they don't auto finalize and pay people who haven't even sent anything to me yet. FML
/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
yeah basically but sometimes the admins will make it right with disputes... but are you dealing with that many vendors who don't ship within 2 weeks? abacus autotimer has always been longer than most markets and i haven't had to extend at all
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
clock on markets always stop
/u/aeolus 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
you're saying yes, but someone else is saying clocks stop... not sure who to believe here, but clock stopping sounds a bit more realistic.
/u/MLK
1 points
1 week ago
vendors arent getting paid either
/u/ItalianMafia Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
I see in the comments that each of us has a lot of imagination about the situation and some even go out on a limb and get paranoid.
It would not be right to throw accusations or insults towards the managers of the market in question even before being sure of what you write.
It must not be easy to fight with the problems of the market and have patience in reading certain comments.
The police are always lurking and after ARC they could be focused on the new TOP market after being excited about having closed ARC.
Just stay calm and see the developments instead of getting wet before it rains.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
speriamo bene,anche perchè come sai in italia abbiamo praticamente 0 venditori grandi e se abacus chiudesse sarebbe un grosso problema trovare venditori che spediscono in eu e non solo nel loro paese
/u/ItalianMafia Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Per come sono andate le cose negli ultimi mesi, è normale allarmarsi, ma bisogna sempre essere positivi.
Per come la vedo io, dopo la chiusura di Arch, Abacus è entrato nel mirino degli sbirri e per questo è necessario un upgrade generale per evitare infiltrazioni.
Questo ovviamente è il mio pensiero ma avendo solo un annuncio generico della situazione, potrebbe essere la qualsiasi.
/u/dreadonthehead
1 points
1 week ago
That's not bacon I smell.. is it?

Now I'm nervous
/u/ZynAddict
2 points
1 week ago
Naaaa if it was LE one of those stupid banners would be up by now. They would have been way proud to bust another monster market in short time after Arch.
/u/kobaflop 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Hug edited his comment to add clarity. But Vito didn't edit to add a signature. While yes, that would not prove anything, the fact that it's not done proves a lot more. I get that you're busy etc but unless your in handcuffs it surely isn't that much of an overhead to quickly sign your message.
/u/snakeinthetrash
1 points
1 week ago
I figured it I was having issues logging in or even connecting- hope the problem gets fixed soon! Sorry to hear that guys! Been using this market for awhile now and Ive never had this issue! Wild. I'd consider myself a novice in these technical arena's regarding attacks and overloaded servers. Crazy time's we live in!
/u/GungaDin Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Hey guys

I have a couple questions.

I understand why DDOS will stop users being able to access the site. Thats obvious.

Can someone explain how DDOS will stop withdrawals paying out?

Im no web developer but from my average joe understanding DDOS will overload guard servers and endgame. It should not affect the payment API.

I just ask because. Wheres our money? Just holding onto it in case you cant figure out how to fix the DDOS problems?

And second question.

How does DDOS stop admins signing messages?

I did not realize that overloading guard servers can prevent your PGP client working.

I just ask because. I smell bullshit.

I am not spreading FUD.

I am just afraid we got scammed, uncertain I believe this announcement, and doubt we are getting our coins back.

I also do actually want an answer about the payment API too if anyone is super smart and has an explanation.

Much love
Gunga
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Absolutely agree. In my opinion, it’s also strange that all the links, both public and private, return “onion site not found” — not a 502 error or anything else. I’m a beginner, but I can’t deny this feels suspicious. Maybe I’m wrong, though.
/u/DrE 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
reading half these comments i would exit scam as a fuck you. as people have pointed out the signature doesn't mean shit get over it, vito has a history of both posting it and not, id rather he spends those extra few seconds fixing what ever problems they are having.
you'd think people not receiving their meth they'd be a little less paranoid or are you benzo users suffering from rebound anxiety either way you're doing a good job at being very unlikable, why would they want to serve you when you scream foul at the first sign of trouble.
I am grateful for this message, it has eased my mind a bit. I am also grateful for the service you provide.
Long live Abacus
/u/chaseymo 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Chill bro. Those are just other Dark net market owner/partners happy for Abacus issues lol.
/u/humboldtnation
1 points
1 week ago
Absolutely. We dont have a crystal ball so chill and be grateful.
/u/slaytanic666 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I'd been saying this was not an exit scam and was just an influx of arch refugees and a DDoS but damn some people need to lay off the crack lol
/u/coralrobin 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
Well they're being forced to because of this
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 week ago
extremely underrated comment lmfao
/u/phnxldr
1 points
1 week ago
Best comment on this thread
/u/Toe 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
My worry is that i got a couple of orders that has not shown up and its gonna auto FE and i might get fucked.
/u/shutupnigga 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
yeah, same. all i wanted was some acid
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
same. i got some acid and ketamine. acid said it was shipped last time i checked. idk.
im just hoping i get the acid. idc abt the ketamine anymore at this point.
/u/Toe 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
hopefully the mod, will help extra the timer or at least deal with a dispute regarding site being down.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
when a market is down,the clock stops
/u/MLK
1 points
1 week ago
goofball haha
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
hello friend dont worry about orders gets auto fe
when this happen,the clock stops on markets
best regards
/u/debbie7 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I got an order placed on saturday, please come thru one more time <3
/u/Jaapinca2453
1 points
1 week ago
Alot of people are waiting on some good news, I know we definitely would like it to be legit and 100% abacus is going to be back up.
With the amount of coin that many (and i cant even imagine the amounts) have with Abacus...

Could we please get some proof of life, ya know some kind equivalent so we can know we will be able to continue on Abacus? Its pretty fair, theres alot of people in shit positions.

Where is PR? I really want this to be that the site is down, but we just went through archetyp and to have this now happen, its hard to simply write it off as nothin.

Abacus staff, please can you give us something to go off of?
/u/ZynAddict
1 points
1 week ago*
I think he posted this for LE to read... Just to keep them guessing. I hate to say this, but I smell your typical exit scam here.

They are taking all that additional money from Arch users and capitalizing before they get caught. Maybe the heat just got way to hot to handle.
/u/[deleted]
3 points
1 week ago
Idk man this isn't like normal exit scams though. Two days ago certain deposits weren't showing up for a lot of people. Then it seemed they were getting DDOS'd because some of the main mirrors weren't working, but my private links were and a couple other mirrors were. Then all the mirrors stopped working, including the private ones (because the market was taken offline).This was over the course of 36 hours. Regular exit scams they usually just pull the plug and are gone in an instant. Maybe Im being optimistic, but i don't think that's what's going on. I hope i'm not wrong though
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
it's not like that, on June 30th before 8pm the links more or less worked, and I managed to upload 160 euros in xmr, literally a few minutes later ALL the links stopped working completely, and now we've been in this situation for 2 days and every link says "onion site not found", definitely suspicious don't you think? I want to hope for the best, but given the assumptions I don't see the matter as easy.
/u/phnxldr
1 points
1 week ago
I placed two orders, right around 7 pm the 30th. When I tried to log in, all the links were down. One vendor managed to get 3/4 of my order out, and now they're out those coins. My other vendor was going to ship, but Abacus had shut down by then, so that's my coin I'm out of. All my vendors have had great communication since this happened, wich is the silver lining.
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1 points
1 week ago
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/u/ZynAddict
1 points
1 week ago*
Either way, its the same result. These guys exited Incognito Style, halting withdrawals days away from pulling the plug.

If they planned to come back strong with complete trust by its users, they would have released all the pending withdrawals requested just before they went offline.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I believe so too, but let's hope for a miracle...
/u/BraixenEnjoyer
1 points
1 week ago
its joeover isn't it
/u/Mydealzz 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Aby Updates ?
/u/laestreetdurto
1 points
1 week ago
I think they have been caught
/u/swisscola
2 points
1 week ago
I don't think they were caught, considering the time now that the market is offline it would have already been announced in the press. If they don't come back it's an exit.
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
mannnn i really hope not.. i had ketamine pending :(((( wanted to try it out. :(
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
hahah :) we all need microdose of special k to withdraw this stress :)
I don't think its been enough time to announce to the press that the site got seized, ASNT got arrested on the 11th of June, they released it to the press on the 16th
And you already know how wet they were to release that to the public.
Abacus is smaller, so they can wait longer before anything comes out.
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
i hope not...
/u/hexbug
1 points
1 week ago
doom, gloom, anger, fear, and finger-pointing...
anyone wanna calm down, step back from the ledge, and just give it a little time?
this is surely a bit bigger than fixing a missing markup or reconnecting a wayward script to its parent folder.
/u/pwnd
1 points
1 week ago
thanks for everything you guys do and the risks you take with your freedom daily for the freedom of drugs something we allcan agree should not be criminalised!!!
/u/adventure84
1 points
1 week ago
are my auto finalize timers still running
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
clocks always stop
/u/zazagone1 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
>inb4 its another fedposting like what happened with archetyp
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
probably
/u/bleedinirish
1 points
1 week ago
Hi Vito, thanks for keeping us informed, living in hope shall we say.

Anyway was just wondering if hourglass is still with the crew as he sorted out a similar issue that I had with deposit, he just got the ID and boom 540.00 arrived within minutes.

Same issue again I believe, it's 500.00 , should be 480.00 when It hits.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as the auto moderator said 30+ confirmations, It's been lodged Saturday afternoon.

Thanks guys.

Kind regards
MR Moloney.
/u/redrocket1
1 points
1 week ago
I understand these things can take some time. I hope its back soon, I miss my vendors
/u/vidabela2020
1 points
1 week ago
The difficulty of maintaining this structure is high, I feel sorry for Vito.
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
whilst all these ignorant people worry about their money, and not that fact it all could be gone. However, i believe hug and vito and it would seem pointless for even a reply or comment, yet he has.
/u/vidabela2020
1 points
1 week ago
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/u/nightcrawler666 🍼
1 points
1 week ago*
Same problem with darkmatter it won't load
/u/PopsNsmoke Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
perfectly fine
Thx for the update boss /u/Vito and thanks to /u/HugBunter for updating the community with accurate information.

KF
/u/Poppies
1 points
1 week ago
Thank you for the comms. Trying to finalise for great vendor but can't get on.
/u/WalterWhyteuk Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago*
How is it still down ? if u were going to come back ?

Withdrawals which were overdue to vendors haven't been even considered or replied to ,despite being already withdrawn, and prior your withdrawals were touching 24h mark and over, yes could be traffic, but there is nothing suggesting any sort of resilience towards vendors with thousands and thousands being in in the void?

As much as you guys are amazing and created a great marketplace, we making it alive for you and as much as you helped us we did indeed help you.

Now when Arch is seized its good to take extra caution against DDOS, BUT NOT THE WAY U DID IT without prior announcements or heads up or decent communication

But hey if you got Millions in ur wallet, i guess people ( AKA VENDORS ) who helped u get there become irrelevant then ?

If by tonight it ain't back, wont bother checking Abacus feed further hopefully /u/hugbunter gives us some updates, SINCE U LOT are incapable of doing so

Kind regards,

WW
/u/spaincartel Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Don’t bother me while I’m fixing the problems. Go outside, touch some grass. LOL
/u/spaincartel Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Don’t bother me while I’m fixing the problems. Go outside, touch some grass. LOL
i am missing 0.8 of a xmr :(
got bills to pay
mrs going to kill nme
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
0 points
1 week ago
so selfish mate, in your own little reality its all about the money. u commenting this literally just shows u a bigheaded, shortfused midgit with no sense of direction. LOL :)
/u/UrPal
1 points
1 week ago
But, it is about the money..?
There's other markets to go on.
was a joke bottle boy
i am happy it was onlu 0.8 xmr dickhead
/u/RXChemist111 P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago*
This can't take this long for sure.


/u/HugBunter Please you give update, is he still active in jabber?
/u/KingSlyJay 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
if he was nicked, the site would show and so would the press. If it was an exit he'd be gone already, like pharoah. just chill and wait
/u/Hourglass P
1 points
1 week ago
If Vito is here, I'm chill about it
/u/Oschikuruuu
1 points
1 week ago
So, what are the next biggest markets for drugs? Especially with German vendors.
I cannot wait any longer for a working Abacus-plattform.
/u/Ratchet_Man 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Just go to Daunt, they're all listed there, the more prominent ones toward the top.
/u/dreadLIVE 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
message is not sign peeps !
/u/faillible
1 points
1 week ago
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/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
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/u/stroopwaffel
1 points
1 week ago
hhmmmm. while its a good story we just heard this one. im prolly gonna play it safe an avoid this mess if the market does come back online as who kno who controls it. this post aint signed neither making it more sus for something thats an official update from teh owner
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
yup im just gonna finalize and dip from here if they do return, i don't think it will at this point
/u/TheRxPharmaa 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
R.I.P Abacus. I think we should move on now ! Currently present on Dark Matter , Drug Hub and Torzon ...Just informing my buyers,..incase they are looking for me . Atively Alive on these current markets now
/u/richymac81 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I am not an experienced person in the dark net I always go to your site through tor.taxi I would be ever so grateful if you could tell me any other links that are safe like tor.taxi and of course hope site up and running soon as I have orders that have not turned up at all thanks
/u/chuckles834 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
daunt.link
/u/babylondankness 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
does anybody know exactly when abacus went down?

i placed an order on monday evening and am just trying to figure out the chances of if it managed to get shiped or not
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
Yeah I'm trying to figure that out too. I was on in morning just fine. I think it went out at about 17:30 UTC on June 30 or about 1:30 EST. This lines up with some what others were saying. I was on a thread with someone who said they got an order in at about 1PM EST, so it was on then for sure. So i think the 17:30 UTC on June 30 is right about the time it down.
/u/babylondankness 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
cool, thanks for the reply. i must have place my order just before it went down then so it wouldn't have been shipped. think i was online roughly 17.00 UTC 30th of june
/u/icravepleasure
1 points
1 week ago
Ups and downs whole monday but around 17 it crashed completely. I had to change 3 links to make a order...still went through and made it :(

Pure speculation but any order made on monday is not shipped.
/u/tochete10
1 points
1 week ago
I was just thinking... Its not rlly that strange that it happened on monday. Personally i make my orders sunday nights, but i bet you mondays arw the busiest moments, purchase and shipment wise. So its not that weird that it could have actually fallen dows and itll come back up again. Fingers crossed my people!!
/u/trashgrass1972
1 points
1 week ago
IDK yall but something feels very wrong here....I transferred $380 from Abacus to an external wallet two days before the went down and I NEVER got the Monero....up to 24 hours is what they claim for withdraws but its been like 5-6 days....something is not right here!!!! I hope to hell I am wrong because I will lose $1400 in orders....They were all marked shipped but only the day before so who knows?
/u/cashioadk2
1 points
1 week ago
guys dont leave us like that
/u/coralrobin 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Where's the Vito Ultimatum Comment guy? Maybe he can try again but only give him like 15 minutes this time
/u/UrPal
1 points
1 week ago
He did it wrong.
You have to count down with a new post every 5 minutes or it doesn't work.
/u/abevigoda2 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I try to focus certainties. Though it's natural human behavior, but speculation and FUD (and the undercurrent of dread) harms my mental health. The only certainty is that you'll ultimately find out what's going on, hopefully soon. Chin up!
/u/BadgerScav 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Noob question, but if i encrypted all my messages and only sent XMR, LE cant skim my "profile" and find out shit about me, right?
right?
/u/Stick
2 points
1 week ago
Only if they seized the VENDOR'S PC and got their private key. In the event of a Market seizure you're most likely safe.
/u/big_head_01 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
We are waiting for the big boss /u/Vito
/u/TheFirmCo Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
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Hash: SHA512

Dear Abacus Admins,
Thank you for your recent update. We hope this message finds you safe and well. We appreciate your efforts during these times and have full confidence in your ability to navigate any challenges that arise.

Best regards,
TheFirm
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/u/chemdawgking 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
My package was supposedly shipped by MoonBow on Saturday, but its still not here. Should I be worried??
/u/BunniSupport
1 points
1 week ago
Thank you for the update!
/u/anzutheone
1 points
1 week ago
Vito, I'm weaving a curse especially for you, your cronies and all of your family members. You have been warned.
/u/SooWooh 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
lmfao i don't think this was Vito my man. It seems Vito has been "whacked" by LE
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
objectively, in a situation like this, what does it cost to sign the fucking message? maybe I'm just paranoid and naive but I can't explain this thing, am I wrong?
/u/SooWooh 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
To be fair, Vito never signed any of his messages really. He did once and that was the last time when he was letting everyone know Abacus went back online from downtime. But yes, I agree. We're talking 600k ppl trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with your market. Either way, if he did get raided, god forbid they didn't find his pgp keys. Even if the market comes back online, idk if I'll be using it. Seems sketchy. It was a good run though.
/u/therobfather 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
any updates today? still have money sat there but more bothered about abacus coming back? is there actual evidence of it being seized or have they just done one? if they have whats the best market for AU? cheers
/u/SooWooh 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
The server ports are still open, meaning someone is still monitoring traffic coming through to the url. Vendors especially, i wouldn't continue to try to access the market. For OPSEC reasons, i created a new dread account, so don't mind the baby bottle. I've been a part of this community since the Dark0de days days.

If this were to "fix things on the backend", then the server ports would NOT be open.
/u/gurkin
2 points
1 week ago
How can you tell the server ports are still open? If the TOR onion is not available, either the server is no longer running, or the hidden service is turned off. Either way, if the hidden service is no longer available, how could you know if the ports are open? You would need the actual IP address to reach the server. If the onion service is running, but the server has nothing on it, then you would get a blank page or HTTP error... These servers (TOR or IP) still serve standard HTTP.
/u/SooWooh 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
One of the vendors on the forum did his digging and came back with that piece of info. I, myself, haven't verified, but i trust him. Read his comments on here his name is H2G2
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1 week ago
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/u/poppypicker
1 points
1 week ago
So there will be a post on here when abacus is back up and running? because i miss you pls comeback
tell us please is this scam or what if doss attack i can offre real server in safe place with ultimated doss attack strong hardware maybe y need it let me know
/u/Biogenpharma
1 points
1 week ago
since the market hes been down the past 2 days. are current orders going to be paused or are they going to auto finalize and time out.
/u/popeofdope90
1 points
1 week ago
clock always stop
/u/CornCob1989
1 points
1 week ago
Anyone know a good UK site that allows Bitcoin, I can't find an easy way to use XMR in UK.
/u/therealmrx 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
cakewallet buy LTC then swap for xmr
/u/AppreciateWisdomPlz 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Abacus is the best site there is. Let Russia help you bring it back up and running. The Illuminati will also help. Thank you.
/u/Poppies
1 points
1 week ago
Do the right thing
/u/Silent_Cal 🍼 P
1 points
1 week ago
I think it's over for AbacusMarket - /post/4e81d332ccb8ffb163cf/#c-4373a2cbbf3e309d47
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
I've ran out of hope lol
/u/mobski
1 points
1 week ago
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
mannnn
/u/mobski
1 points
1 week ago
yup its over
/u/vibelife24
1 points
1 week ago
Pretty clear it's an exit scam. There's no way they would take down the market and bring it back several days later. I doubt this market would get busted within weeks of another major bust. If anything, we'll hear about them getting busted later after the attempted exit scam (Bohemia style).
/u/AgentOrange
1 points
1 week ago
So... We back online, boss man?
/u/Dark8 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I believe him .
/u/le_professionnel
1 points
1 week ago
thats why my payout monero does not arrive to my wallet ?
/u/tarantoloso
1 points
1 week ago
and now, after Archetyp and Abacus, where to go as a Europe/Germany-based buyer? Any suggestions? Thank you!
/u/BadgerScav 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
DrugHub. Small but plenty of german vendors
/u/tarantoloso
1 points
1 week ago
unfortunately ... always down
/u/PenjiPuff
1 points
1 week ago
2020-2025 Good run boys.
/u/dubberz 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Working on an exit scam at best, working with LE at the worst. It's not coming back. See yah Vito.
/u/DrE 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
or just moving servers and upgrading the website to handle ddoss attacks and influx of new people. has gone down for a week before. same reaction from the community.
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1 week ago
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/u/ruleswift11 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Lol sorry my friend, whilst I appreciate your positive thinking, read HB's latest post on DNM sub. Abacus is gone, Vito is MIA, as are the other mods.

I love Abacus, I use it weekly and I'm now in a tough spot due to not having access, but even I know it's game over.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
that's what I tried to explain to him too but he got offended...
/u/GABERMATE3000 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Didn't Pharoah at Incognito so the same thing here? Posted while doing an exit scam?
/u/vibelife24
1 points
1 week ago
As did Bohemia.
/u/workerbee
1 points
1 week ago
It's my understanding that they (incog) posted while deposits were working so they could collect more on the way out. By the time Vito posted, the site had already been down for a couple days
/u/GABERMATE3000 🍼
1 points
3 days ago
Kinda did happen, abacus was down with the deposits and then miraculously the deposits showed up. Then in the next 3 hours it was gone with the wind
/u/ruleswift11 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
n exit scam for a 300k? It's a very measly, pathetic exit if that is true. Most exits are in the millions

If they planned on an exit, they would've waited for Arch refugees and for wallets to hit an all time high, they didn't.

I strongly do not believe they bowed out for that figure.

To me it has all the hallmarks of LE seizure, especially with his message not being signed - whilst I appreciate he didn't always sign messages, at a time like this, a smart man like Vito would know to sign it. It was the feds, I'm certain of it and we will soon see the banner.

Abacus was a great market, but it's the DNM cycle, another will take it's place, a 5 year run is a good run.

Onward we go, fellow consumers and vendors!
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
I don't understand where the 300K is coming from? I know there was a BTC wallet HB had discussed but XMR was also used. Do you think XMR usage was really low on Abacus? I'd hope not, but I'd hope/think more would be using XMR esp since many of us should have gotten used to it by now.
/u/workerbee
2 points
1 week ago
Agreed. Hopefully the ratio is something like 5:1 or higher for xmr:btc deals. If it wasn't that high, it certainly should be.

If this was a planned exit, it's the worst possible timing if the goal is money. Nothing adds up
/u/quick_cat P
1 points
1 week ago
maybe they just got too afraid to have this target on there back since arch seizure
/u/workerbee
1 points
1 week ago
Sure, but the target is there either way. Wouldn't you wait another 2-5 weeks and double your money? The incoming vendors and customers would be a ton. Abacus was a solid market. I'm in the minority that preferred Abacus over Archetyp because the downtime. My logic brain isn't working good for this whole situation lol
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago*
status updated to frown face.
wonder what that means.
/u/richymac81 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Vito I am I regular I order near enough every other day I got three order that said shipped and three that was accepted will abacus come bk and how would I go about finding out where my parcels are when they say shipped and two was 24 HR special delivery
/u/ruleswift11 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Bro you don't actually believe out of the thousands of messages he'll have been sent, he's gonna pick yours - a buyer - out and be like "yeah I'll let this one go through but that's it"

Come on brother, I know it sucks balls, I lost an order as well, but it's out-with everyone's control atm

Only Vito knows what's truly happened and his MIA status tell you all you need to know
/u/swisscola
1 points
1 week ago
Thanks Vito! I'm very confident that you've been working like a pro for almost a week now, lol, without sleeping or eating...

I really can't wait for you to announce the return of Abacus! With all the wallets and their amounts abandoned when it was offline, of course, lol.

Thanks again for your gratitude, your time given to the community, your transparency, and your honesty!!!

I can't wait to get my 9,000 euros back, which is stuck in the wallet.

Apart from that, I hope you're well? And that you're not suffering too much from the heat while sipping your little cocktails on the beach?
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
updated to a clock.
idk what that supposed to mean.
/u/bugzy99 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
hopefully just a bit more time needed
/u/sikdream P Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
let us login and get our funds out.
/u/poppymeow 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
let us login and let our order complete.
(need my ket)
/u/Sammroth
1 points
1 week ago
So what now people abacus is finally down or we need to wait???
/u/dogondrugs 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I really hope you do come back Vito, Abacus Is my favorite DNM with my favorite vendors, you guys have done so well over the past few years and helped me out with with support tickets many times, So I'd personally like to thank you and the team for your work.
Just before you went down I placed an order that was in escrow, It's only around $250, money like that Is a lot to someone like myself, So I would love to see you guys return. I'm hoping that all this talk of a rug pull is just paranoia, so we'll just wait and see. Hope you guys return, even stronger than before.

All the best.
/u/unitalianosudread 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
don't you realize that you are humiliating yourself publicly? I am a beginner in dread and the dark web in general, but I certainly do not start making these ass-kissing servant comments when it is obvious that your idol Vito stole the money and will never return, do you have a minimum of dignity or are you ready to humiliate yourself just to have your drugs?
/u/DrE 🍼
1 points
6 days ago
you're humiliating yourself with all that hate seeping from your greasy pores. There ois nothing wrong with being hopeful and positive.
/u/dogondrugs 🍼
1 points
6 days ago
I am ready to show support for the DNM that has done nothing but good things for me over the past few years. If they did rug pull, It sucks, but these are the risks you take using a DNM. Abacus was more than just Vito, the support team worked above and beyond for It's customers, and to be quite honest, I'm happier that they rug pulled than getting seized by LE. Cry about it all you want, you knew the risks, as did I. All I'm doing Is expressing my opinion on the matter, just like your little whinge to me! I do hope It returns, It's nice to be optimistic you know :^)
/u/Budala
1 points
6 days ago
Bro i cant acces market and i need to pay the guy, all is here but i cant get into market like 1 week already, what should i do?
/u/Reaps
1 points
4 days ago
he exit scammed
/u/bartouze
1 points
6 days ago
not posting for 4 years. did not answer the proof of life request post.

last news update on abacus was 2023 and he suddenly pop up just to post that =)

let's hope he doesnt post in 4 years from now
/u/Reaps
1 points
4 days ago
retarded exit scam, there was barely even a point doing it. you may as well have just gave people their money for how little you got. sad really.
/u/LibertyExchange 🍼
1 points
3 days ago
How do you guys think it's going?
/u/TMtwisted
1 points
2 days ago
bro why would u do that this was a great market its really sad):
/u/TheDarkHorse Abacus Vendor
0 points
1 week ago
Thanks for the update Vito.
Hopes are high, we really need our market back.

Thanks.
TheDarkHorse
/u/humboldtnation
1 points
1 week ago
I hope so too. Hope you are well. Hang in there.
/u/1481
0 points
1 week ago
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/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Let's hope mate
/u/icravepleasure
0 points
1 week ago
why exitscam when your main competitor got busted? why bother making announcements if exitscammed? why is my lack of coke and meth give me this copium boost?
/u/chynab
1 points
1 week ago
Boost of deposits for sure, probably more in escrow than ever before. D4rk0de did the same thing after I believe Alphabay 2.0 exit. (Don't quote me, been around for way too many markets)
/u/icravepleasure
1 points
1 week ago
Idk man, I would've waited a month or more and jacking you, us, me, worse.
Given the fact that they were correct until now, the site had problems before and that dude posting how he is extorting / ddosing them, I will wait a week before forgetting about my money.
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1 points
1 week ago
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/u/1481
0 points
1 week ago
could u give us an update i rly have to send my order now and we allready had to go trough the bust of archetyp so if theres just an problem with the payouts u can do that manually in the hardest case, but it would show that u not doing an exit and be trustworthy. so i hope we will hear in the next 30min - 1h from you.
/u/chick3n2023
2 points
1 week ago
This comment shouldn't make me laugh, but I'm sorry, I had to.

Do you think the Abacus market owner is going to personally reply to your comment, in the next 60 mins, when he has thousands of other people that have been asking for several days now?

C'mon bro.
Chill like the rest of us.
/u/ChestOxyUK Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
HAHA :)
/u/richymac81 🍼
1 points
4 days ago
Do you no ogf any uk legit vendors for xanax and gear please and how I can get to them I always used tor .taxi have you another link same kind of this that can take you safe onto sites thsnks
/u/ChestOxyUK Abacus Vendor
1 points
4 days ago
Do not know bro. Can not help you.
We have Oxydolor 80mg GL Pharma. Original in blisters ONLY in the UK.
/u/stroopwaffel
1 points
1 week ago
LMAO i got a good laugh outta it too. we will get a response or not eventally.either way we will get a answer. thats all you can do is wait like everyone else
/u/1481
1 points
1 week ago
sorry nigga but some of us are rly Impatient after they send cash to the site and the site is offline for 3 days and u allready gone trough the other bust that shit aint funny or is meant as a joke he could use that as a chance to show his god damn community that he dont give a damn. for a DDoS nobody would shut down his entire infrastructure.
/u/lowblowjoe
1 points
1 week ago
definite proof that 1 post can provide 100% of your recommended daily allowance of lollz.
/u/bill4689 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
I think he called your bluff bro. What now?? Lmao
/u/xeonmaster 🍼
0 points
1 week ago
Market still offline. How many hours has it been? No one is counting anymore...
/u/ruleswift11 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
Read Vito's post, he will announce when it's back online, It's fruitless to sit and try link after link.

Your best bet is to keep checking back on here for an updated message from Vito

Abacus went down for about 1 week before, a few months ago, they figured it out and got it back to normal but it took over a week to do so, it's still early days
/u/Reaps
1 points
1 week ago
It's looking different this time imo. Showing some of the signs arch did before the banner went up.
/u/therealmrx 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
ehhhhhh its hit the good 3 days mark i believe since its not been accessible but your right im not even counting lol
/u/The_Mad_Hatter
1 points
1 week ago
Its been 2 days I believe. Went offline Monday around this time i think.
/u/JacktheRipper13
0 points
1 week ago
Why is this message not signed with PGP key?
/u/DrE 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
he rarely uses it?
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
-2 points
1 week ago
Market is long gone...

Are people stupid enough to believe this nonsesne?

Haven't ppl learned their lesson from Archetype.

Everyone just move over to DrugHub asap so we can continue business
/u/CANNAMAIL Abacus Vendor
5 points
1 week ago
I hope if they do come back they take your shit for being such a little shit talking bitch. I have been a vendor for much longer than you and can say that the post and the market being down is a clear sign of this not being an exit scam. This is clearly either what they said it is or LE. Stop acting like you are the DNM oracle and shut the fuck up!
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
0 points
1 week ago
Mind how you're talking to me sir. I have never even heard of you. Ur money is long gone pal. Accept it. Ur the one acting like an emotional bitch and not coming to terms with blatant realities.

ABACUS IS GONE. GET OVER IT.
/u/CANNAMAIL Abacus Vendor
2 points
1 week ago
Boy I been losing money on since AB1, GTFOH! I'm desensitized to this shit. Stop talking shit to these kids and noobs who are holding on to hope. Acting like you know more than the rest of us. You're a fucking nobody, cause I'm a nobody and I lost four times what you been posting about losing all day.
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
0 points
1 week ago
How am i talking shit? im speaking from anecdotal experience that in my opinion (which all it is) is that abacus is gone and we should begin to come to terms with it.

this is not a dick-measuring contest. i commend you for making and losing more money than me. long may us vendors continue to service our customers, profit and provide for our friends and family.

u just sound like someone who is butthurt to know that i am in fact correct in my observations about what has been going on recently in terms of the ABACUS exit
/u/ChuckJones
1 points
1 week ago
Attempted take down, maybe. Exit scam? Nah.

Whoever is behind the nearly constant DDoS attacks on every market with a name isn't a script kiddie. It's likely a coordinated attack between state-level actors, with big, federal budgets behind them. The DDoS attacks don't deanonymize anything directly- but at a minimum, they cause FUD, and get in the way of business and profit. The worst case scenario is what happened to Archetyp. Rumor has it ASNT knew what the fuck he was doing, and yet the market is gone, he's sitting in jail, and those state-level actors have access to... millions of data points they are now cross-referencing with millions of others. DDoS attacks are like a swarm of biting flies, not stinging hornets. The purpose of which is to cause system admins to fuck up.

We could chalk Abacus being down to coincidence or maybe exit scam only if there was a single threat vector and a single seizure. But that isn't the case, and it's foolish to ignore the evidence. Who would have the resources to launch continued, long-term attacks on every market you've heard of, that have the power (numbers of bots, the internet of things) to, by themselves, cause markets to continually crash? Not kids, not "hackers," not bible-beating drug warriors drunk on ideology- not unless they're part of the bigger, more sustained picture... Three letter agencies cooperating to give themselves a reason to exist, while careers are made, and budgets funded.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
probable, but we are not absolutely certain, in my opinion you speak with too much certainty even if the situation is actually worrying, I do not want to attack anyone, just reflect on what is happening in a civil way.
/u/Lightexist 🍼
2 points
1 week ago
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/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
name me a better alternative- and how is XMR only a bad thing?

no market should accept any crypto BUT XMR, otherwise they are compromising the security of its users

edit: ABACUS withdrawals could take up to 24h, sometimes more. Archetyp was good as withdrawals would often show within minutes and be processed within an hour
/u/Lightexist 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
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/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
Only major issue I see with Torzon is the massive amount of poly drug pressed pills... some reason its flooded with them more than most
/u/Lightexist 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
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/u/robertpaulson P
1 points
1 week ago
nah thats fine for rolls... I mean opiates, with all the LE/fent stuff I don't like seeing a market flooded with those types of listings. It gets too much attention
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
Do you think there's any chance it could work again?
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
Abacus? a resounding NO.

I have been a vendor since 2019 and have seen this horse and pony show many times.

Accept ur losses and move on.
/u/[deleted] 🍼
1 points
1 week ago
thanks for clarifying and spreading realism, so the message we see above from the alleged ceo of abacus is basically bullshit?
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
most definitely. it's just to buy some more time as they begin to move escrow funds around various wallets- i refer to this post: post/9c3d399df6b112c8e702
/u/vidabela2020
1 points
1 week ago
2019? You are still very young, digital inclusion has brought many beggars.
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
in 2019 i was not old enough to vote.. make of that what you will
/u/chick3n2023
1 points
1 week ago
Let's see how well this ages.
Have a made a note to come back at the appropriate time.
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
oh i hope im wrong. i have 7k gbp in escrow on abacus. if it comes back i will personally send u 1k usd of XMR.

hold me to that
/u/chick3n2023
1 points
1 week ago
I wouldn't know what to do with it, mate.
Appreciate the offer, but that's your money.

I have 1K on there, and that's the largest deposit I have ever made.

It's been a struggle but managed to raise some funds to deal with my vendor outside the market, and hopefully begin to grow again.
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
0 points
1 week ago
This is precisely what i attempted to do once Archtyp fell- as i knew there would be a domino effect of markets exit scamming once becoming overwhelmed by the refugees that were banished from Arch.

so i sent out a mailing listing with my session QR code to some existing repeat customers so that i could offer them better prices and comms. However i have been admonished and heavily criticised by members on Dread for moving forward with such action.
/u/workerbee
1 points
1 week ago
I did the same thing but the opposite direction. I reached out to vendors that I've dealt with multiple times and asked for their Session. I know the risk working direct. But I usually FE'd anyway so no big change. Having a proactive vendor reaching out ahead of time is great.

I'll take his $1k btw
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
0 points
1 week ago
I agree 100%

The issue from the side of the people who do not like the mailing lists is that it is technically an unsolicited correspondence sent to an address that buyer may have been using as a drop address..

but i only sent out mailing lists to customers who had ordered 20+ times and address appear to be consistent and not purely a drop.
/u/chick3n2023
1 points
1 week ago
Also, I wouldn't try and name vendors I trust, as could easily be seen as shilling or scamming.

Tmrw we find out if the first order lands, then there's one due the day after.

If all is well, he's got a customer for life and he saves like $70 on market fees.

Also, where he gave me a wallet address to send the crypto to, I can see he has a lot of money in it, he definitely doesn't need my 1K.

If Abacus does come back and funds get released etc, I may semi hold you to what you said, but a far smaller amount, just to treat myself to something I wouldn't usually justify. ;)
/u/chick3n2023
1 points
1 week ago
Not a fan of vendors storing information, I think it's bad form

Although it can be done safely, if you are forced to co-operate like Arche admin did, that info is then easily accessible.

Looking at it from your point of view, it makes good business sense, especially when you've potentially lost a ton of money in escrow or on your wallet, and a massive % of your customer base.
/u/nddnarcs1 Abacus Vendor
1 points
1 week ago
it's only for a 7 day period whilst we store the tracking numbers.. once orders are all marked delivered we delete the digital postage label which contains the buyer address, tracking number etc.

it is poor opspec to keep customer information anyway
/u/chick3n2023
1 points
1 week ago
I deal with about 10 vendors, and I trust maybe 2 enough to deal with, without escrow.

Rule #1 of the Internet, trust no-one.

People shouldn't advocate dealing with vendors directly, but as an adult, you can make your mind up, based on your own experience with that specific vendor

My vendor for something sends handmade custom videos of products worth over 100K.
Ripping me off over $1K, once, is less effective than having my repeat custom for as long as he's vending.

Plus the negative PR I'd flood Dread with, showing proof of being fuc|<ed, would damage his reputation a bit, making him lose more than my $1K.
/u/icravepleasure
1 points
1 week ago
I don't believe you either and I say they will come back
(I will be happy with 5€ worth of xmr and a 10% discount voucher thanks)