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XYLAZINE: A Tek for Removing (Most of) it From Your Dope : Opiates | Torhoo darknet markets

I felt like now was a good enough time as any to post this, this shit is pretty dangerous. This isn't a very refined post or technique like some of my guides, and I haven't had the time to run a lot of experiments to try and optimize the conditions or solvents. This isn't meant to be a really in-depth guide for now, it's meant to be a quick way to teach people the concept and be as accessible to as many people as possible and as simple as possible.

Disclaimer: Adding this section in just because I think some people have read this and gotten the wrong idea. This is analogous to just doing a simple filtration, evaporating the filtrate, and then repeating multiple times. I'm aware Xylazine is not insoluble in alcohols. This won't totally remove all the Xylazine, I was a little bit overzealous with the title which should probably have read a tek for removing "some" of it from your dope, however it will completely remove many of the other cuts and will significantly improve the quality of your dope, making it much more usable afterwards.

Xylazine is a weak base that reacts with acids to form salts, just like heroin or fentanyl. It's usually present as the hydrochloride,

Things you will need at bare minimum:
- Shitty xylazine dope
- Methanol (buy online)
- Acetone (buy online or at the hardware store, get something like klean strip that doesn't have additives)
- Some glass cups / flasks / beakers
- A glass oven-safe tray or dish
- Blow dryer / heat gun / fan
- Some kind of filtration mechanism. Read below to see what fits your situation. I always recommend the pipette and hand pumps to people. They're like a $30 investment and very worth it.
- Oven

Here's a quick run-down of the concept and a summary of the technique. Whatever drug you're partaking in is likely a hydrochloride salt. Maybe it's heroin hydrochloride, or maybe it's something stronger like one of the china white F# blends. These are pretty soluble in methanol. Xylazine hydrochloride is not all that soluble in methanol [or at least less so than the desired compounds]. This means if you crush up your dope really well and then add methanol to it, the dope will dissolve while a good portion of the Xylazine will not.

Summary of procedure so far: grind dope, add methanol. No more than 3 mL per gram.

FILTERING

Now you need to pass the resulting solution through a filter. This can be a lot of different things, at the most ghetto level, secure a coffee filter to a cup with a rubber band, make sure it has enough slack to where it droops down in the center to hold the solids and liquid. Pour the solution onto this and let it drain through. Save this liquid.

Some of you might be wondering if you can draw it up through a cotton the way you might filter a shot if you aren't using a syringe filter. This is actually the right kind of idea but methanol and most solvents will destroy the rubber plunger and plastic syringe too quickly. The cotton can also get clogged up with solids very quickly depending on how much of your dope is xylazine and other cuts.

One alternative is to invest in a glass syringe with a blunt tip needle that you can use exclusively for this purpose. Around 5 to 10mL would be a decent size. You can use this and just drop a new cotton ball in when the first one gets clogged.

Another, better method to using a glass syringe is to use a 10mL glass pipette and a pipette hand pump. Look on ebay/amazon for these they sell kits with 3. A larger hand pump will create more of a vacuum.

It works like a big syringe, you attach the pipette to the hand pump, push the tip into the cotton, and pull the plunger back to draw up liquid. Then you lightly tap the release button a few times to make sure you don't pull up the cotton when you with draw the whole thing.

At the most advanced level, use a buchner funnel and filter flask with 6-10 micron filter paper and some kind of vacuum source. You can just buy a full buchner vacuum filtration kit with funnel, flask, clamp, and hand pump included, or you can rig something up yourself.

Each time you do this, we'll call it a "pull". Whichever method you choose, you will want to add a little more methanol. Use half as much as the first time and then do the filtration again. Add this with the first liquid. Usually 3 pulls in total will do the trick.

Once you have your filtered liquid, unless it looks completely pristine, you should pass the liquid through your filtration method one more time, don't add more methanol, just filter the solution to remove any remaining solids. Use a fresh cotton/filter/etc don't pour your filtered solution back through the old solids or anything like that.

DRYING

Now pour this onto a glass, oven-safe tray. The more surface area the better. Shoot it with a blowdryer or heat gun to start evaporating it. For the fastest evaporation, try to hit it and work the air stream in such a way that it moves the liquid around in a circular pattern. If you can do this outside or on a patio that's ideal, if not just be mindful that methanol is flammable. Don't be stupid and turn the heat gun up to 1000 degrees and stick it right in the methanol and light yourself on fire. Just be reasonable and keep the heating element at a safe distance whatever you use and be mindful of how much vapor is accumulating around you if you aren't in a well ventilated space. If you aren't sure of yourself just use a fan and check back every hour or so.

Keep doing this until when you grab the tray and move it back and forth there is no liquid sloshing around.

[If you do this with a product that doesn't contain xylazine at all you can end up with a dry product right after evaporating the methanol. This will usually be pretty pure so be careful. Mind the weight before and after, if you end up with half the amount you started with it's probably 2x as strong. You can figure out the multiplier by dividing the starting weight by the end weight.]

SHITTY WET OIL >>> DRY SOLID

At this point you will most likely think you have failed and produced nothing but a bunch of wet/oily clear shit. This is because the product has oiled out, [here specifically this happens from it having a high water content. Xylazine HCl pulls in water aggressively and can form multiple different hydrates, so the more that's in your stuff the more of an issue the moisture is]. At this point the acetone comes in. Pour a little bit onto the tray and repeat the evaporation step. You're going to keep doing this acetone splashing and evaporating step until you start to see the white of a solid precipitating out. Think of the acetone as helping dry out the product.

If you have some kind of metal tool like what you might use to scoop your drugs / wax concentrate (or a spoon/butter knife) scraping the bottom of the tray to help mechanically agitate the solid can help speed up this last part.

When you don't see any more white appearing, as in when it seems to have all precipitated out, evaporate any remaining liquid until once again you can't slosh it around, this time you should have a damp solid. Now stick it in the oven at around 230F. Let it sit in there, checking on it every 8 minutes or so until it's dry enough to scrape with a razor and get a powder. Take it out and scrape it up. Unless you live in the desert or some shit you'll need to put this in some kind of jar or vial because it's pretty hygroscopic. If you just leave it on the plate or in a bag outside it will clump up.

If this clumping happens you'll have to put it in a shotglass or cup, pour acetone on it, crush it around with some tool and then pour it on the tray and dry it in the oven again.

These are also the same steps you should take if you heated/scraped it too early and it's still gooey.

And there you have it, I know there was a lot of details missing from this but this should give you a start. I've only had a chance to try this with methanol and anhydrous ethanol and the methanol worked better.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This also removes a lot of the polyhydric alcohol cuts like mannitol so be careful! You'll end up with a much stronger product. I'm repeating a similar note from earlier but pay attention to how much weight you've lost. This doesn't remove all the xylazine so if you end up with half the amount you started assume it's probably 2x as strong. You can figure out the multiplier by dividing the starting weight by the end weight. In reality the potency will be less than this but just for safety purposes use this as a starting estimation.

Hope this helps some people out there.

QUICK UPDATE:

I repeated this procedure again recently using a freshly opened bottle of anhydrous ethanol and found I was able to get the best results so far. I used a freshly opened bottle so it was very dry. If you're comfortable with drying solvent with 3A molecular sieve then know you can get better results by drying either alcohol with it first (sit overnight and then filter, decant, or distill before use). They absorb around 20% their weight when freshly regenerated.

My runner up recommendation as a desiccant (for the methanol) would be Magnesium Sulfate that's been made anhydrous by heating at 200C/392F. Let it cool down and then add it to the the methanol to a container that's sealed from air, agitate well and then filter after 30 minutes or so.

NEWEST ADDITION: Solubility data of possible candidate solvents

Unfortunately the solubilities change with the polymorphs of the xylazine hydrochloride. The anhydrous form and the hydrate are going to be the only ones I focus on.

%% Estimated Solubilities %%

Fentanyl Hydrlochloride
chloroform: 5mg/mL
dichloromethane: 6mg/mL
2-propanol: 10mg/mL

Xylazine HCl - Anhydrous form
chloroform: 2.5mg/mL
dichloromethane: 4.6mg/mL
2-propanol: 2mg/mL

Xylazine HCl - Hydrate
chloroform: 1.0mg/mL
dichloromethane: 2.3mg/mL
2-propanol: 0.8mg/mL

Note: I couldn't find anything for Heroin HCl, and the following values should be assumed computational unless a source is located for each one:

Separation will be maximized if the Xyl-HCl is allowed to form the main hydrate, then something like 99% or dry isopropyl alcohol is used.

To do this, take the mix or even a thoroughly dried product you obtained if you did this thread's parent procedure with something like methanol. Grind it in a mortar and pestle with a few drop of distilled water. Just enough to make a paste consistency. Spread this onto a glass tray then use a few drops to rinse the mortar an pour that on it to get everything. Spread onto a plate let air dry for a few days. At this point the Xylazine HCl should exist almost entirely as it's hydrate form.

Complete the procedure at this point using the isopropanol.

Isopropanol (isopropyl alcohol / 2-propanol) may be the ideal solvent. It makes sense. I got better performance with anhydrous ethanol than methanol, and of all the solvent comparisons, it is the most promising in terms of what it looks like on paper.
/u/Heinous
3 points
1 year ago
This mans doin gods work.
/u/ZillaKami138
1 points
1 year ago
socat2u akbar!
/u/newbieforever2018 P
3 points
1 year ago
If all of the steps involved don't convert users to benzo consumers then nothing will.
/u/NarcoDitz65
3 points
1 year ago
Not wanting to wake up in jail with 10 felonies I don't remember committing is enough to keep me away from benzos.
/u/newbieforever2018 P
3 points
1 year ago
LOL. This won't happen if you limit your benzo dose. Of course going hog wild on any drug won't give good results.
/u/AlienMonkey
1 points
11 months ago
That's not gonna happen if you get legit pharma benzos, especially klonopin or valium and don't take a ton of em. The only time i've ever blacked out was from pressed bars which I won't touch anymore.
/u/WhatsMyNameAgain
1 points
10 months ago
[quote[ That's not gonna happen if you get legit pharma benzos, especially klonopin or valium and don't take a ton of em. [/quote]

Untrue. The one and only time I've ever taken klonopin, it was a legit pharma pill, and that shit made me straight up drunk. I'd been on 6mg/day of Ativan prior to that, so the dosage of the klonopin wasn't really a factor. I fell down a flight of stairs and barely remember it though. And apparently felt the need to consume half a container of ice cream in the middle of the night? Which I assume is why I was going downstairs in the first place. I woke up the next morning to find my freezer door partially open, the ice cream I'd apparently put back in the drawer on its side, leaking out the bottom of the fridge, and a bunch of food well on its way to being spoiled. I vaguely remember landing on my ass at the bottom of the stairs. I don't actually remember being in the kitchen at all. It was a relatively mild experience, as far as blackouts go. I didn't wake up in some stranger's bed. I didn't kill anyone trying to drive. I didn't get arrested for some unknown reason. But shit, man, I only took two klonopins. I shouldn't have blacked out at all.
/u/[deleted]
2 points
1 year ago
This needs to be posted on methadone clinic walls all over the country
/u/brightblack
2 points
1 year ago*
First of all, this is god's work, so thanks to /u/socat2me. I got quite excited myself when I saw this post. A little further research has revealed that little info on xylazine solubility is readily available. What there is points to methanol being the common solvent it's most soluble in, at 50mg/mL, according to chemspider and the like. Fifty grams per liter is not a lot, relatively. But, it's something to keep in mind. Ethanol solubility is listed as 20mg/mL, DMSO 10mg/mL. Oddly, refences to water are not quantitative, just that it's not very soluble in water, particularly at higher pH. Unfortunately, fentanyl, for example, is not very soluble in water either, particularly at higher pH. Perhaps the scarcity of info on this subject indicates that some of this data is undeterminedor incorrect. If experiments like socat2me's are yielding results, then there could be something in that. Opioid solubility in alcohols varies, but fentanyl, for example, will dissovle readily in methanol. I recommed keeping the volume of methanol low, and maybe chill the solution before filtration to help precipitate the xylazine. I look forward to reading the results of more experiments like these. Safe travels, everyone.
UPDATE: The Israeli Ministry of Agriculture says xylazine hcl is "freely soluble in water, very soluble in methanol and chloroform, practically insoluble in hexane and ether." I guess it's time to buy a pile of this trash and subject it to some solubility tests. If you see me out there trying to sell off 100g of xylazine next month, you'll know why.
/u/socat2me 📢
1 points
1 year ago
Yeah finding reliable experimental properties for compounds can be a pain. Especially when you need data for a specific salt as opposed to the base form. Often there will even be multiple contradicting sources. For example, check out the pubchem page for fentanyl. The pKa of fentanyl is reported as 8.43, 8.99, 7.3, and 8.3 lol. I think the 8.99 one is most likely the correct value since the source is a peer-reviewed publication that was entirely devoted to measuring the solubility behavior and dissociation constants.

Note about pKa values: for a hydrochloride salt this is the pH value where the compound is half base and half salt, so essentially half precipitated out and half dissolved. There is also a useful rule of thumb with pKa: if you take the pKa value and add 2 that's the pH where the compound is 99% base, if you take the pKa and subtract 2 that's the pH where the compound is 99% salt)

Anyways my main reasoning for recommending this procedure and methanol in particular is that it has the best balance of performance and accessibility. It does require ordering some things online, at bare minimum the methanol, but nothing too crazy or expensive and as far as home chemistry goes the procedure is pretty easy and safe.

There definitely may be some solvent system (mixture) that gets better performance. The main thing is just that there aren't a ton of solvents that I would consider to be easily accessible that are good candidates. I haven't experimented around with it too much aside from using ethanol (which I wouldn't have recommended even if I had gotten better separation with it, since in order for the water content to not dissolve everything it needs to be 200 proof / anhydrous which makes using it a lot less accessible to those without chemistry experience). Chilling the methanol is definitely worth trying.

The other benefit of the methanol is that it removes other common cuts like mannitol so you usually end up with a pretty pure product, which helps to offset any residual xylazine left in it since you don't need to do as much for an effective dose.
/u/brightblack
1 points
1 year ago
Great points all. Especially about removing a lot of the other cuts. Thanks for sharing the fruits of your labor!
/u/ElCaptinoJackarino
1 points
1 year ago
What about Everclear 95% ethenol 5% water, using math to calculate the amount you should add?
/u/socat2me 📢
1 points
1 year ago
Everclear is usually around 76% ethanol and 24% water, so that's a no go. Even if you're able to obtain 95% through distillation or buying it the 5% water will end up causing problems. It brings over too much xylazine and if that weren't bad enough Xylazine HCl can form multiple types of hydrates and is extremely hygroscopic, so the drying stage will end up being really difficult and tedious. Ending up with goo that also still has a lot of xylazine in it.

However, if you somehow have some source for 95% ethanol like distillation or buying it there is a solution. It's not a quick one though. You can get 3A molecular sieve easily from all the major online shopping sites. They look like little balls of clay. You do have to activate them by getting them very hot for quite a while. At minimum in the oven for at least 2hrs at 400F. Once activated they are a really powerful desiccant and can absorb around 20% of their weight in water. You can add them to the 95% ethanol at around 250mg/mL in a container with a good airtight seal and let it sit overnight. The next day all the dust will have settled to the bottom and you can pour off the ethanol, which will ideally be dry.
/u/ElCaptinoJackarino
1 points
1 year ago
95% everclear is sold at liquor stores. But ya you can make anhydrous.
/u/Bakwilis378
1 points
1 year ago
it depends on what state you are in some states its 95% other states like 70 or some shit
/u/ElCaptinoJackarino
2 points
1 year ago
So I've heard. Some states won't even sell alcohol on Sundays. Others won't sell past a certain time. Still others won't sell certain proofs. It's all messed up.

Like kratom. Not that I'm interested in it but there are like a half dozen states where it's illegal. Guess it's same for marijuana now too (ignoring federal law and that ridiculous schedule 1- I don't even smoke weed and I think that's ridiculous. Cocaine schedule 2, but that marijuana... man. Have you not seen Reefer Madness???! The stuff is the devil incarnate! With... chlorophyll and photosynthesis and all that devilish stuff
/u/Bakwilis378
1 points
1 year ago
lol yeah i hate the guvernment
/u/sunnysidepharm
1 points
7 months ago*
Methamphetamine is schedule 2 as well and able to be prescribed for ADHD under the brand name Desoxyn. On the Desoxyn website and pharmacy information sheets it has information about pediatric use in children as young as 6 years old. It even says "DESOXYN® (CII) is not recommended for use in children less than 6 years old". We get told all the time that these drug laws are about protecting children and parents get arrested and their kids get put in foster care for leaving drugs even close to a child sometimes. Yet we have methamphetamine being given to children, some as young as 6 years old at the very least. They are denied access to a variety of schedule 1 drugs that may be helpful to them in a weird selective way. Look at all the parents who were arrested or threatened for giving their kids CBD for seizures over the years.

Granted methamphetamine is not frequently prescribed and is usually given to kids in doses of 20 to 25mg a day though. A strong dose of meth for recreational purposes would be around 20 to 50mg or so as a single dose. The average dose, including recreational dosing in as well is around 5 to 20mg.
/u/BlackCoal432
2 points
1 year ago
who has tried this method? how did it go?
/u/gettyup
2 points
1 year ago
I have Xylazine test strips and if the dope has Xylazine, I pitch it, just not worth the risk...course, I quit dealing with that vendor, as well.
100% same
/u/madeinmexico
2 points
1 year ago
Let's make a pot of some sort for all vendors and customers who are negatively affected by xylazine to join and donate. Maybe an escrow system reserved for the vendors like myself that are willing to make a larger payment to the cause only if certain requirements are met. I don't have an exact idea of how this would look but I know I'm heading in the right direction! A pot like gofundme for smaller donations toward a breakthrough of certain requirements. Then a separate pot for larger donations through an escrow system especially if it's just a customer, if requirements of the donation is met. For the vendors who want to donate large amounts, maybe no donation at all initially. Maybe just a pgp signed statement that promises to pay a certain amount to the first person who can make a way to remove xylazine from a certain substance. My requirements would be that the process has to remove xylazine from a fentanyl hydrochloride substance that contains unknown cutting agents. It would have to remove it without changing the chemistry or yield of the fentanyl. If it filters out multiple known cutting agents as well, I'll pay extra! Can we build something like this? The chemists who succeed will make a lot of money.
/u/cuppycake
1 points
1 year ago
Since you don't respond to me on archetyp I'll write on here. My last order that I placed after the one before it was great and didn't have xylazine, you sent me bunk product with xylazine. I read you apologizing and saying you'll make shit right so I let it finalize but I'm guessing that's a mistake right?
/u/madeinmexico
1 points
1 year ago
I replied. Check again
/u/larrykrinkle
1 points
1 year ago
this i really interesting.
/u/transdrainer2
1 points
1 year ago
ty for this!
/u/[deleted]
1 points
1 year ago
Thank you kindly, /u/socat2me.

Excellent information!
/u/lifesagamble624
1 points
1 year ago
isnt this basically making it #4 or pure dope? I know i read one time about how to make #4 because they had a bunch of this mexican brown shit going around which is like turkish shit and other brown dope you see. This isnt fully processed heroin which is why its cheaper. The process i read i believe was similar to this or exact same.
/u/eyeveegirl
2 points
1 year ago
No, it's definitely not.
/u/kingkrule
1 points
1 year ago
lmao hell no this will not turn your 'dope' into #4.

this post, and it's great and very important, is about getting xylazine out of (most likely) fent laced 'H'
.... tranq ....
/u/panamanian
1 points
1 year ago
Can you use ethanol instead of methanol?
/u/socat2me 📢
2 points
1 year ago
Yes, I actually added an update at the very bottom recently about some results I got with ethanol. You can actually get even better results with it, but it should be as close to anhydrous as possible. Ethanol has an azeotrope with water at 95%, so you'd either want to buy anhydrous and use it as soon as you open the bottle, buy 95% and dry it, or buy something lower, distill it to 95% and then dry it.
/u/ElCaptinoJackarino
1 points
1 year ago
I'd like to hear some feedback from actual chemists, the solubility of F and tranq in various solvents, confirmation as to whether this particular approach is valid, and what alternative washes would better remove this contaminant.

I'm gonna make a post.
/u/socat2me 📢
3 points
1 year ago*
I have degree and used to work as a research chemist. This is not even close to the optimal way to remove the xylazine or what would be done in a lab, but I was pretty clear about what this guide was. I just wanted to provide a home chemistry method that an average person would be able to do that would produce an improved product.

Really this is just a simple filtration. Both xylazine and F are soluble in methanol, just as both are soluble in ethanol. Just not to the same extent. Ethanol works better but it has to be dry.

Just being a chemist doesn't mean you automatically know the exact solubility of every compound in anything. Those are values that have to be determined experimentally, even the best computational methods aren't all that great and usually include several parameters that still have to be determined experimentally.

Also when you have two hydrochloride salts dissolved in a solvent, any solubility data that you do have is going to be wrong, because now a common ion effect is involved.

This is part of why knowing exact solubility data isn't really all that useful, unless it's completely insoluble in a given solvent. Genrally you have a decent idea from the molecular structure, like I can tell you without needing to do any experimentation that xylazine hcl isn't going to be soluble in hexane because it's an ionic compound. The problem is that this is a case of two organic hydrochloride salts. Their solubility profiles are going to be too similar to get a total separation using the kinds of washing (filtration) methods that most people are familiar with.

In a case like this where you have a solute that isn't freely soluble in the parent solvent the solid and ionized/solvated forms are in an equilibrium. For really well-researched mixtures, like NaCl in water for example, people have figured out the equilibrium constants, but even in those cases they're temperature dependent. That's a big part of why solubility data is hard to find for most compounds. For a given solute-solvent system it's not a constant value, it's a temperature-dependent mathematical model that's different for each system.

If you want to know the optimal method, what I would have used when I was working in a lab with all the equipment, in order to actually remove all the xylazine the most common method would not be directly separating the salts but rather the bases. You use TLC to find a solvent system that gives decent separation of them, often some ratio of ethyl acetate and hexane. Then you do an acid/base extraction concentrating the resulting organic solution of the xylazine and alkaloid base, and then flash chromatography with said solvent system. If the HCl is needed you'd convert the alkaloid back with something like ethereal HCl or by bubbling dry HCl gas through the solution to precipitate the salt.
/u/ElCaptinoJackarino
1 points
1 year ago
I figured A/B extraction would be best. For the average user tho that won't be feasible.

You say they're both soluble in ethenol. Which is more soluble, and by how much, roughly speaking?
/u/socat2me 📢
1 points
1 year ago*
Xylazine is the more polar of the two, so it's less soluble in ethanol than it is methanol.

As far as A/B both of them have amine groups that protonate to form salts, so a general A/B procedure wouldn't provide a full separation, but I do think that there's some kind of potential there.

I read somewhere that the pKa value of Xylazine is 7.1. I haven't been able to find any peer-reviewed sources to back that up but the pKa of fentanyl is 8.99. If 7.1 is right then it may be possible to get some kind of separation through manipulating the pH during the extraction step of the A/B, especially with the right organic solvent.

The best non-chromatography method for separation of levamisole from cocaine ended up being converting them both to bases, dissolving in hexane, and performing like 5 or 6 iterations of shaking the hexane with water. The levamisole had more solubility in the water layer than the cocaine so they were able to get full separation that way.

I haven't looked into it yet though since it's a little beyond what most people are comfortable doing with home chemistry as you say (especially converting the base back to the hydrochloride salt for people who don't use smoking/vaporization as their ROA).

I'll give you what solubility data I do have though: in regards to the base form of xylazine my Merck index says "soluble in dilute acids, benzene, acetone, chloroform, sparingly soluble in petroleum ether, practically insoluble in water, alkalies"

And chemspider lists it's solubility in methanol as 50mg/mL but the source leads to a dead page.

Something of note is that Xylazine hydrochloride exhibits polymorphism having something like 3 different forms of hydrate salts it can form so it's pretty hygroscopic, which is why the alcohols need to be as dry as possible.
/u/ElCaptinoJackarino
1 points
1 year ago
As far as avoiding base conversions, you think the most effective wash would be anhydrous ethenol then?

How exactly does that work, when 2 substances are soluble in a solvent, but one more than the other, do they both dissolve but in the same ratio as the ratio of one's solubility vs the other? Or does the more soluble of the two fully dissolve first, and whatever solvent is leftover the other dissolves in as much as possible?

That's actually a question I've wondered for some time
/u/Aurora714
1 points
1 year ago
My last two orders have both been xylazine positive. x100 f30's from megaMilli and disappointedly x200 order from PfizerDirect, I know right? Pfizerdirect was always on point.
I have all the listed items. Going to use a glass syringe method. Any pointers are welcome I never pulled a syringe through cotton.
/u/quantumpoohbear
1 points
1 year ago*
Please share your results if you try this!
I would love to know what percentage returns you got and if after your dope went from showing postiive to negative completley for xylazine on test strips.
/u/Dreadhead007710
1 points
1 year ago
you should stop selling this garbage, beause will kill people with that crap, i cant beilive hey allow the sale of that on here
/u/Lovelychesse24
1 points
1 year ago
All i got to say is thank you!! my man
/u/NarcoDitz65
1 points
1 year ago
This is invaluable information. Thanks for sharing.
/u/lkanxcvjmnas
1 points
1 year ago
how have the results turned out for people who tried this method?
/u/snowcrystal
1 points
11 months ago
or i mean send your dope off to lab tests and find a solid vendor without xylazine dope seems like alot less effort
/u/gonnawork
1 points
11 months ago
Isopropanol is not harmful? food grade is on stores everywhere
/u/caddletrax
1 points
11 months ago
Awww.......now street dope has no effect now.
/u/Brickcity
1 points
10 months ago
when its time to dry it by using the acetone is it safe to assume it should be made anhydrous with the mag sulfate ?
/u/jerseymike_666
1 points
6 months ago
Hey man thanks for this im going to try this out soon. I think first ill do the methanol/acetone method and then i will try the anydrous ethanol ----> 99% iso method. it viable to use denatured anydrous ethanol or does it have to be straight up 200 proof ethanol with no additives. Thanks bro.
/u/OfficialPistola
1 points
5 months ago
What about for #3 Heroin?
/u/Odlyevenrecover
0 points
1 year ago
Thanks for this.. only thing I disagree with is beginning of 2nd paragraph stating *XYLAZINE IS A WEAK BASE* you must've never fallen asleep n woke up feelin like someone poured concrete dust or made your tongue sandpaper that no fluids can cure and the hours long stupors you can't do ANYTHING about.. he'll id bet you a dude could get ass raped and not be able to defend himself n just sit there maybe moaning but can't move then falls back asleep while still being fucked cause u can't open ur eyes.. *NO HOMO BTW JUS SAYIN SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS ON THE STREETS SADLY EVEN TO MEN..*

I do appreciate your testing/theories, I remember when you first were looking for some xyla dope sample to do some testing.

Thanks for that, you a real one!
-Odly ^_^
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1 year ago*
Xylazine as a free base is considered a weak base in regards to the acidity: in simple terms it's the ability to donate or abstract protons (hydrogen atoms that have lost their one valence electron, although really these only exist alone in aqueous solutions as hydronium ions H3O+, not free floating neutron-proton pairs).

This is a reversible reaction that goes both ways and usually the degree of acidity is expressed by it's pKa. Similar to with pH the p indicates an application of a negative log function (base 10 not natural log) of the value that follows. In pH, it is the concentration [H] of protons in solution as measured in units of molarity. In pKa it is Ka, the dissociation constant of the proton that the sp3 hybridized nitrogen atom abstracts to form the NH4+ ammonium group. The cation to the Cl- chloride anion in the corresponding Xylazine hydrochloride salt.

There is also a pKb function that measured the inverse of that equilibrium constant, so low pKb is more basic, but it's not really used because it's just getting confusing at that point.

As with pH, the lower the value, the higher the acidity. Sulfuric acid has a pKa of something like -10. Hydrochloric acid around -1 or -2. I don't remember Xylazine off the top of my head but I think fentanyl is around 9.1 or so and is another weak base.

As a TLDR; strong bases and acids abstract or dissociate so extensively that you can consider the reaction non-reversible and having proceeded to near 100%, where weak bases and acids there's a non-negligible concentration on both sides of the equilibrium even if they lean heavily towards one or the other.

But in the sense that you're referring to, it's certainly not weak! Like getting hit with a tranquilizer dart and not the fun kind.